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Plame: Plugging the Wrong Leak

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posted on Sep, 14 2006 @ 05:01 PM
At least you are out in the open now, though still projecting vehemently. Yes, you are them.

posted on Sep, 14 2006 @ 05:08 PM
Yes, IR

And I am very proud of that. I have raised two daughters that are independent thinkers as well and will not ever fall into the trap of "Political Correctness."

I am proud that I stand for the core values that built this nation and carried us through WWI and WWII.

I am proud that I am of the same brotherhood that was spit on by your cohorts when they returned from Vietnam.

I am proud that I went to the Middle East and fought for my country.

I am proud that I went back and taught them so that maybe one day they can stand as I do, PROUD.

I am proud that I taught my children that just because everyone says it, does not make it true.

So yes, I am "One of Them." I would never be any way else.


posted on Sep, 14 2006 @ 05:44 PM
You still continue attempting to label me as part of the hated left. "The cohorts of mine that spit on the returning 'Nam vets." You make a lot of assumptions that have no basis in reality. I come from a military family with ties to what made this country great that go deeper than you could ever imagine.

I don't see your thinking as independent at all, and if you are a supporter of the current administration, then you need to review your core values, because they are not being represented, imo.

I am proud of my country, but disgusted with its leadership. I am a social liberal and a fiscal conservative, the exact opposite of what this administration has turned out to be, regardless of what its rhetoric would like to imply.

posted on Sep, 23 2006 @ 12:19 PM

You still continue attempting to label me as part of the hated left.

I am sorry you feel that way.

My comments were generalizations about me and in no way directed at you.

My life's experience and education lead me to believe that you are 100% wrong, but I have also devoted my life to fighting the fight to make sure you can voice that opinion.

I do not COME from a Military background. I am a Marine, served 5 good years and now fight the fight on the streets.

I don't need to reevaluate anything. Where most are sitting here typing away, I am out doing something to make a difference each and everyday.

My background is not relevant, it is my life that I base my devotions on. Not the internet, not ATS, rather what I have lived, where I have been and what I have done and seen. Actual experiences and world travel.

My core values are very healthy and above all else, not filled with hate and conspiracy related garbage.


posted on Sep, 23 2006 @ 02:28 PM
"Cohorts of mine" is a specific comment directed at me. Hard to slice it any other way. Nevertheless, I don't harbor any ill will toward you, and I respect your service to this country as a Marine, as well as your continued service on the streets as a peace officer. Feel free to one-up me all you want, if it makes you feel good about yourself.

Perhaps you could consider for a moment that your past and continuing experiences in the military and law enforcement have and do color your perception of the world. I mean, you are faced daily with realities of life that most of us don't come up against that often, if ever more than once. You have chosen to put yourself in the line of fire, to become part of the machine that keeps the status quo in place. You must believe that might makes right.

I don't. I don't believe that justice comes out the end of a gun, or that the guy with the biggest stick gets to make the rules. I don't believe in the pecking order mentality of this society at all. I believe it is fatally flawed, and only the positive power of primary partnership and equitably shared responsibility, as well as benefits, can save us from the mess we have created.

The question that really needs to be addressed is: How do we get there from here? The worrisome answer is: We don't. The chosen few will have to start over and try to get it right next time.

The meek will inherit the earth.

posted on Sep, 23 2006 @ 02:51 PM

The meek will inherit the earth.

Perhaps you are correct.

But only after those that fight because others wont, continue to make it safe for you to inherit it.

A foundation of this country based on principles first braved in the American Revolution.

You are free to type there, because I am willing to fight.

Simple as that.

(edit) Snide comments ignored as not adjuvant to the intellect.


posted on Sep, 23 2006 @ 03:23 PM
You being willing to fight doesn't assure my freedom. My faith in Jesus Christ does.

Those who live by the sword will die by the sword.

It isn't that I can't or won't or haven't fought, but that fighting isn't the answer.

You can fight all you want with others who want to fight, to your mutually assured destruction.

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