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Why CANADA sucks

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posted on Sep, 8 2006 @ 07:14 PM
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This is kind of funny, in a sad sort of way.

There are people who avoid paying taxes, and freeload off the rest of the Canadian taxpayers, who complain about how tax money is spent. :shk:

Much like if you don't vote, you don't have the right to complain (if you are of legal voting age); if you are avoiding taxes, you also don't the right to complain.

It's amazing how quickly we have forgotten that this country was founded on the principles of noblesse oblige and that this was something conservatives believed in. Brian Mulroney, you ruined the Conservative Party and changed what they stood for!!




[edit on 8-9-2006 by Duzey]




posted on Sep, 8 2006 @ 07:26 PM
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Lets go over this one more time...


Originally posted by donk_316
This RIGHT HERE is my point... FREE LOADING OFF OF CANADA.... but this poster is an American? GREAT! Im glad you live another year because I PAID FOR IT.


But...


Originally posted by donk_316
Now, I have been forced to become a "non resident" of Canada to save myself the horrendous tax grab and live over seas. While "visiting" canada every second month.


Can you taste the irony?


Originally posted by donk_316
Your baby eating Libral Draconian Overlords screwed up Canada for 24 YEARS before Harper even got into power...


Note to Self: Return those Damn Canadian History Books! Worst 89 cents I have ever spent!


Originally posted by donk_316
Hell Vancouver is called "Hongcouver" and Calgary is the closest most Albertans will ever get to Asia.

look at all the East Indian Gangs in Edmonton... what a joke.


Completely unnecessary
Deny Bigotry


Originally posted by Duzey
This is kind of funny, in a sad sort of way.


I think I would have to agree.



posted on Sep, 8 2006 @ 08:11 PM
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Oh, how I would love to fill a suitcase with all the cash I forked over through the various taxes I've paid since 1960. Woohoo!!! It would fill it to the point I'd be jumping on the lid to snap the locks shut.

I started paying taxes when I was 14, working after school, of course, but it was still a steady, part time job fitting shoes on women, kids and men. I did that all through high school, working 2 different shoe stores. From that on I had all kinds of really interesting jobs, from working on the railroad, forestry, ranching, ramp rat at an air terminal in Yellowknife...and that was all before I got a real job in 1973, a good paying but highly taxed job which I stayed at for 32 years until retirement last year.

The only time I never paid taxes was when I worked on farms, and that was before I was 14. Cash in hand for tossing bales, stooking, tractor work, pig sty cleaning...lovely hard work...I'm even very familiar with the old Surge Milkers, the full bevy of tractors, what's best or worst about equipment from thrashers to manure spreaders...all before I was old enough to drink, drive a car or join the army (which I did as soon as I could because my dad said I should know how to protect myself, my family and my fellow citizens).

And, you know what (?), I never once whined about paying taxes. Maybe I was wrong not to, but whatever... I never did. It was what I needed to pay for whatever problems might arise (like Hurricane Hazel) or fixing roads or paying cops for court duty or for firemen and their ever better equipment...all those things and lots more.

I DO get snarly when politicians waste my tax dollars...sure...but politicians rarely rise above pond scum level anyways, so it's almost expected, like crop damage from rain or wind. Chretien and his cronies sunk to an all time low, imo, but Trudeau wasn't all that clean either, nor was Diefenbaker, Davis, Mike Harris or any of them for that matter.

Now I'm almost 60 years old, retired, healthy with good teeth
and no major problems. Same with my wife... not that we haven't had our bad times, or that our kids didn't need medical health care, because they did...we all did, at one point or another in our lives.

And now, looking back over all those years of working, forking over that good sized cut of my hard earned pay (because it WAS hard earned), I look back with no regrets...NONE.

All the people in the world should be as lucky as we Canadians are, despite the crooked politicians lining their bank accounts on our sweat. You know, if more people voted instead of sitting on their hands, and started really looking at the people running for the Federal, Provincial and Municipal offices, maybe less pond scum would wind up in power.

Oh, and before you start telling me that you'll be paying for my Old Age Security, let me inform you that I really don't need it...you can take it for yourself when you're my age. And, if you're ever unemployed for a few months or even a year...help yourself to what I put in to EI, because I won't be needing that anymore either. And just so you don't get the idea that I think I'm particularly 'special', I was born AFTER the second world war, in which my father and so many of his generation paid a higher price than any taxes I ever had to fork over.
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posted on Sep, 8 2006 @ 08:20 PM
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I am against one-liners so my apoligies to the staff,

But I feel obligated to express my appreciation to masqua for that post.

I honestly did half a fist pump after reading it.




posted on Sep, 8 2006 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by donk_316
This is the biggest crock o' crap ever.
Steve has been in power what? a year?
Your baby eating Libral Draconian Overlords screwed up Canada for 24 YEARS before Harper even got into power...
Jean Cretien LAUGHS when people tell him how corrupt Ottawa is... cause he knows... and so does everyone else... HE GOT AWAY WITH IT.
Nice try though! Way to keep driving that wedge in!


My narrow comment did not exclude that possibility. More of the same really..

So please expand your perception donk, as I don't own any baby eating draconians liberals, as you say. IMO, the government controls too much. They are for war and censorhip. The last news I heard of Harper he was pushing laws to disband the Canadian Senate. Would this be part of the recently announced American Union? Do they have the same plans for the US senate?



posted on Sep, 8 2006 @ 11:11 PM
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My narrow comment did not exclude that possibility. More of the same really..

So please expand your perception donk, as I don't own any baby eating draconians liberals, as you say. IMO, the government controls too much. They are for war and censorhip. The last news I heard of Harper he was pushing laws to disband the Canadian Senate. Would this be part of the recently announced American Union? Do they have the same plans for the US senate?


I don't know how Canadian law works...but in the US, nobody can pass laws to disband the US Senate/Congress/Supreme Court without their approval. And I truly doubt they will relinquish their control in a million years.



posted on Sep, 8 2006 @ 11:21 PM
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Harper can't disband the Senate. He wants them to voluntarily become elected, and most Canadians I know think that's the way to go.

Of course, he did it in his usual tactful style:



There were some tense moments during Harper's appearance, and one senator compared his firm stance to a former Liberal prime minister.

Senator Jim Munson told Harper that "there are critics who believe you would like nothing better than to fight an election on the backs of the Senate."

Harper responded: "Well, don't give me the opportunity."

Munro then told Harper his statement reminded him of Pierre Trudeau's famous phrase, "Just watch me."

PM demands Senate reform, 'not a report'

I look forward to another election that has nothing to do with the real issues facing our country.



posted on Sep, 8 2006 @ 11:39 PM
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Note: Americans, our senates are quite different and warrant comparison.

Yours does stuff, ours is an unelected mass of old people who sleep for 80,000$ a year.

That is all.

DE



posted on Sep, 9 2006 @ 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by DeusEx
Yours does stuff, ours is an unelected mass of old people who sleep for 80,000$ a year.

That is all.

DE


Appointed old folks, normally due to a previous favour, that hold no accountability to the general public.

Where do I submit my resume?



posted on Sep, 9 2006 @ 08:35 AM
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Ya I'll agree there alot of things in this country that really suck. The high taxes, the failing health care, our usless self serving politians. But look around at the state of affairs in other nations and deny it couldn't be so much worse.



posted on Sep, 9 2006 @ 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by DeusEx
ours is an unelected mass of old people who sleep for 80,000$ a year.



I guess I qualify as one of your 'old people'.

I wish I had 80,000 a year, though...I'd sleep deep.

It's so 'today' to bash the seniors, isn't it, DE?



posted on Sep, 9 2006 @ 10:24 AM
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Oh, Masqua. You know that I meant you no offence.

However, the Senate are usually retired politicians. I have never even heard of a seante member at a spry young age of 50. Not this is a problem...but do you really think that I wouldn't like to sleep for $80k a year? But noooooooo! I don't get the opportunity to even be ELLIGIBLE to do that!

Life is so cruel to us both, Masqua.


DE



posted on Sep, 9 2006 @ 12:50 PM
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Oh, geez...I took no offence... it's the fact of the aging population of Canada I was referring to. All those boomers going grey,
even Bob Rae looks ready for the good pasture (heh).

It is a popular subject with the young crowd, I know it is because my sons, who are in their 30's talk about it.

Just to stay in the flow of the conversation, an elected senate sounds like a plan to me...appointments are usually derived through big party donations or keeping your mouth shut more than capability, but you already know how I feel about politicians.



posted on Sep, 9 2006 @ 01:13 PM
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That is true, yo. I AM worried about supporting all those aging boomers, and how in the hell we're gonna do that without having to face MASSIVE immigration problems. People today just aren't having kids. Lazy boomers, spawn dammit!

DE



posted on Sep, 9 2006 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by DeusEx
That is true, yo. I AM worried about supporting all those aging boomers, and how in the hell we're gonna do that without having to face MASSIVE immigration problems. People today just aren't having kids. Lazy boomers, spawn dammit!

DE


It is the white people who aren't having any kids. The US would be in the same boat without our millions of immigrants (illegal and legal)



posted on Sep, 11 2006 @ 06:17 PM
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Not even our immigrants are having kids. Sudbury is shrinking by like 3% a year (hardly fair, since no one in their right minds immigrates to the sud-dot). The GTA is expanding as fast as they can build houses, but crime is also skyrocketting appropriately. I'm not sure how much of the expansion is people shuffling around (not direct immigration, per se, but people moving from places like the sud-dot), because Toronto is unfortunately the economic engine of Canuckistan. Today, we had four murders, which is about 5% of the total of last year's homicides. 5%, in one day. We rock.

DE



posted on Sep, 11 2006 @ 10:03 PM
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Deusex, wow it seems other countries are catching up to the US. I am not sure if our crime rate is increasing too though
.

How many immigrants does Canada get? I assume not nearly as much as the US does...



posted on Sep, 12 2006 @ 11:16 AM
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Nope, we're not near as popular. Nor as big, population-wise. It's alarming, actually. Our country only has about 32 million people in it. And, I think even with immigration, we're just staying at par. I think.

DE



posted on Sep, 12 2006 @ 02:27 PM
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As an American citizen I would love to pay $88 for healthcare ... I'm not sure how good your coverage is for illnesses in the state run plan; but let me give you an idea of health care for your southern neighbors.

Here in California I have healthcare for myself, my wife and our 1 child. It is through my employer and is purchased through a major contract (30,000+ subscribers) and it still costs $1200 a month (of which I pay $130). This is just health insurance, doesn't cover dental or eye as those are seperate. My son had some kidney issues when he was born and the two weeks in hospitals and 3 surgeries cost the insurance about $300,000 ... even though I am well insured I am still responsible for $20,000 worth of those bills.

Compared to most in America I am lucky just to have health insurance and to only have to pay the $130 portion for it versus the entire monthly bill. The total taxes do seem much higher but I wonder which system is working better overall?

-STL



posted on Sep, 12 2006 @ 02:33 PM
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Compared to most in America I am lucky just to have health insurance and to only have to pay the $130 portion for it versus the entire monthly bill. The total taxes do seem much higher but I wonder which system is working better overall?

-STL


That is a good question...I would say the US healthcare is better for those who can AFFORD IT. Wealthy Canadians come down to the US for operations. It is just too damn expensive sometimes...so better in which way is the question.



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