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Originally posted by xmotex
If I recall, that the incident happened is not really in question, the US .mil admitted it a while ago. The explanation was that supposedly noone realized the containers were airtight and it was accidental. I think the casualty count is in question however.
AFGHAN MASSACRE – the convoy of DEATH’ tells of how American special forces took control of the operation, re-directed the containers carrying the living and dead into the desert and stood by as survivors were shot and buried.
And it details how the Pentagon lied to the world in order to cover up its role in the greatest atrocity of the entire Afghan War. This is the documentary they did not want you to see.
Were U.S. troops in Afghanistan complicit in a massacre?
According to Doran, of the approximately 8,000 Taliban prisoners taken after the fall of Kunduz in late November 2001 to Gen. Rashid Dostum, around 5,000 are unaccounted for. He says he's filmed eyewitnesses testifying that many of those prisoners suffocated in the metal containers used to transport them between Qala-I-Zeini fortress and Sherberghan prison, and that Northern Alliance troops fired into the containers, killing and wounding other prisoners. One witness claims that an American officer ordered the bodies dumped in the desert of Dasht-I-Leili, and that living people were taken there as well and executed. Furthermore, Doran says he has witnesses claiming to have seen American special-forces soldiers torturing prisoners who made it to Sherberghan.
Mass graves raise questions in Afghanistan
The discovery of numerous mass graves, filled with bones and skulls, raises questions about exactly what happened to prisoners after they were captured last November in the northern city of Konduz by the U.S.-backed forces of Northern Alliance Gen. Adbul Rashid Dostum.
The ground around Mazar-e-Sharif offers abundant evidence of mass death. In May, investigators with the Boston, Massachusetts-based group Physicians for Human Rights examined a grave in Dasht-e-Leili and said hundreds of victims had been dumped there.
Physicians for Human Rights Calls for End to Stalling of Investigation into Afghan Mass Graves; urges UN Security Council to Authorize Commission of Inquiry
Physicians for Human Rights (PHR) today condemned the refusal of the US Government, the Afghan government, and the United Nations to secure and investigate the mass grave site at Dasht-e Leili, near Sheberghan in northern Afghanistan. It demanded an immediate comprehensive criminal investigation under the auspices of a Commission of Inquiry sanctioned by the U.N. Security Council to determine the number of bodies in the grave, the circumstances of their deaths, and the likely perpetrators-all essential to begin the process of accountability.
In early 2002, PHR discovered and forensically examined the site, which revealed a recently formed mass grave in an area where witnesses said the bodies of a large number of Taliban prisoners (who surrendered at Kunduz to Northern Alliance forces in late November 2001) had been deposited and buried. In May 2002, the UN seconded two PHR forensic experts, including the director of its International Forensic Program, William Haglund, Ph.D., to undertake a preliminary investigation of the site.
Reports of mass graves of Taleban militia
Amnesty International is concerned about reports in the international media that up to 2,000 bodies have been recently discovered from mass graves in northern Afghanistan. The corpses which were in various stages of decay were reportedly those of the Taleban militia who had been despatched to capture the city of Mazar-e Sharif last May. They are reported to have been killed deliberately and arbitrarily while in the custody of General Abdul Malik, an anti-Taleban military commander in control of the area at the time, and buried in some 20-30 mass graves near the city of Shebarghan in the northern province of Jowzjan.
Such killings would be in contravention of international humanitarian law which establishes minimum standards for the protection of individuals in situations of armed conflict. In particular, Common Article 3, which appears in all four Geneva Conventions of 1949 and applies to all parties to an internal conflict, clearly defines the people to whom its protection is extended:
"Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention or any other cause..."
Originally posted by Trauma
Hey sry I'm new at this, but still the point is the U.S is mass murdering as many as possible over in the middle east by any means. This is just one.
And p.s I said the video says that the afghans were killed. You thought it was a death video and are disappointed you should've read the title.
Originally posted by Majic
Benefit Of The Doubt
I think it's reasonable for members to be skeptical of these claims, but I think it is also incumbent upon us to look into them.
I don't know if these allegations are true or not, but -- and I'm speaking as a member here, not as a moderator -- if hundreds or thousands of prisoners died in this manner, that is NOT "okay". :shk:
In particular, I would like to point out that whether or not a human being is "useful" to the rest of the world is irrelevant, and that no one, for any reason, should ever be permitted to slaughter prisoners of war.
That would be an atrocity, and if U.S. forces are committing such atrocities, I want to know -- and I'm certain other ATSers want to know, too.
Unfortunately, many of the sources which push such stories have been shown to be liars and propagandists, which -- tragically -- muddies the waters and obscures the truth.
Providing information from credible and verifiable sources would help us all to Deny Ignorance.
If any member can substantiate these claims, I promise (this time as a member of the senior staff) to make it worthwhile.
I agree with Majic on this, thus we need the scholars to write a investigation piece on this story. I saw the film of this wayback not sure if it was democracyKnow or a pbs series on the taliban. Not much you can do about it now, but something happened. Americans wonder what is going on with our military and the people that lead them. It's our money in taxes that fuel them and such things as these, checks and balances are not there any more. People have been brainwashed so much with hate because of so called terrorists that anything with a towel on the head is a target.
It too bad that hate has to enter everywhere we go, but thats the times we live in!
Just think how you would feel if invaders enter your country, changed things to suit them and chained you in trailer van and forgot about where they left you!
[edit on 9/7/2006 by Majic]