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Iran claims AIDS research breakthrough

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posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 11:44 AM
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Iran's Ministry of Health claimed to have made a medical breakthrough with a formula to control symptoms of AIDS.

"The research studies to find out a formula to cure AIDS was initiated during the tenure of two former health ministers and have led to useful results."

"The theory was to determine whether or not it is possible to boost the immunity system of the body. Some 60 projects were initiated to attain the result," Farhadi said in the IRNA report.



The announcement came a day before an international meeting to discuss U.N. sanctions against Iran for refusing to curtail the enrichment of uranium or allow its monitoring.


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Could this be a real breakthrough, or rheteric from Iran to take attention away from other issues?




posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 11:50 AM
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not sure if this is a case of Iran trying to make themselves look better than they are or not? i think one of the best chances we have of beating AIDS and many other diseases is by tricking the bodies own defence system into killing the disease in the same way they did with those cancer victims the other day



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 12:16 PM
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Well if Iran is stupid enough to try and pull a wag the dog like this they will be made to look like fools. Really Iran might be backwards but I dont think they are stupid.
I put in Iran Aids in google news and there are other agencies carrying this story.



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by Desolate Cancer
Well if Iran is stupid enough to try and pull a wag the dog like this they will be made to look like fools. Really Iran might be backwards but I dont think they are stupid.
I put in Iran Aids in google news and there are other agencies carrying this story.


Iran backwards? Possibly with the fact that a religion runs the country...but hey, America is runned by religious fanaticals too, so perhaps they also are backwards?

As far as technology, etc., I doubt their as backwards as you would think.
Look up pictures of Tehran, looks like a normal place.

As for cure...Aids was probably a "government" disease, so Im sure the cure was there with the development.

Peace

Dalen

[edit on 6-9-2006 by dAlen]



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 06:06 PM
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Hmm...I'm calling hoax on this on Iran's part. The key phrase in the article is that they found a "formula" (whatever they mean by that) to cure the "symptoms" of AIDS. The thing is, AIDS in and of itself doesn't really have distinct symptoms, only the opportunistic infections which are present DUE TO AIDS do.

Mariella



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 07:59 PM
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It's may be possible, because their country isn't owned by pharmaceuticals corporations limiting alternative research in that domain so they can continue to sell their crap to people in africa who don't have AIDS.



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 08:17 PM
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You misunderstood the article, they found a breakthrough with a formula for symptoms while they were doing research studies for a cure , No that they found a cure, the claim is that the results are useful.

We all know that it takes a cocktail of drugs to control aids.



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
You misunderstood the article, they found a breakthrough with a formula for symptoms while they were doing research studies for a cure , No that they found a cure, the claim is that the results are useful.

We all know that it takes a cocktail of drugs to control aids.


Again, I raise the issue that AIDS itself doesn't have any textbook symptoms. It has an effect on the body by decreasing the titer of CD4+ cells, but it does not cause any sort of physiological symptom. So, what exactly have the Iranian found? I vote for nothing.

Mariella



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
We all know that it takes a cocktail of drugs to control aids.


I,m wondering what that handful of drugs would be like without the AZT..

AZT as far as I understand was a highly toxic almost always lethal anti cancer treatment that was recalled by the medical powers that be..

I am still HIGHLY skeptical on the treatment of AIDS.. and more importantly the increasing classification of long standing diseases being interpreted as another (AIDS related death) disease.



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 08:48 PM
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You're correct, AZT kills more than AIDS alone. People lost almost all their chance of living if they take AZT. They should see the other side of the mirror of AIDS. (dissidents of AIDS)

Mod Edit: Big Quote – Please Review This Link.

[edit on 6/9/2006 by Mirthful Me]



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by AGENT_T
I am still HIGHLY skeptical on the treatment of AIDS..



Originally posted by Vitchilo
You're correct, AZT kills more than AIDS alone. People lost almost all their chance of living if they take AZT. They should see the other side of the mirror of AIDS. (dissidents of AIDS)

Mod Edit: Big Quote – Please Review This Link.

[edit on 6/9/2006 by Mirthful Me]


Whew, well, then it's a good thing neither of you have HIV or AIDS, otherwise your skepticism would probably have led you down a path (read: death) which would have prevented you from sharing your faulty opinion.

Mariella



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 09:56 PM
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Originally posted by bsl4docWhew, well, then it's a good thing neither of you have HIV or AIDS, otherwise your skepticism would probably have led you down a path (read: death) which would have prevented you from sharing your faulty opinion.

Mariella


Strange you should say that because being in the music/entertainment business I have numerous friends with this ''condition''

As I said before.. I have friends who have this condition but none who ''suffer'' from it... except that is now updated...

Some of which have opted for the handful of drug approach and some who have opted for a healthy living/balanced diet approach..

Guess who looks a lot healthier and have kept their hair???

While I respect your medical opinion as I have said before.. You do not know anything past the information you are ''fed/allowed to learn''

We had this discussion before in the ''who is more important ?doctors or researchers'?' thread i believe..

I wish you well in your learnings but unfortunately it is getting more and more apparent that post graduate doctors are being deceived also..

Why is is that AIDS was originally called Gay Related Immune Deficiency?

And that most of the symptoms stemmed from drug ''poppers'' abuse?

I really think this was a bullcrap strategy to recap the losses in a failed cancer treatment..ie

''Hey it,s so poisonous all our patients die''

''Never mind,, we,ll sell it to HIV patients coz they,re gonna die anyway''

Sorry for the skeptical approach.. but believe me... If I am ever unfortunate enough to contract AIDS.. I,ll be first in line to support my own theory



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 10:02 PM
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Why is is that AIDS was originally called Gay Related Immune Deficiency?


Because a large number of early cases were recognized in the gay community.


And that most of the symptoms stemmed from drug ''poppers'' abuse?


I don't recall this. Source?


I really think this was a bullcrap strategy to recap the losses in a failed cancer treatment..ie

''Hey it,s so poisonous all our patients die''

''Never mind,, we,ll sell it to HIV patients coz they,re gonna die anyway''


And they would keep producing it...why? There is more money in keeping these patients alive longer and on drugs, so why would they feed them a drug to intentionally kill them? Your logic seems to be, well, illogical.

[quoteSorry for the skeptical approach.. but believe me... If I am ever unfortunate enough to contract AIDS.. I,ll be first in line to support my own theory[/qoute]

Eh, well, I'll be the first doc in line to treat you at the public health clinic when you come down with candidiasis or pneumo, which vitamin C and exercise won't cure =(.

Mariella



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by bsl4doc

Why is is that AIDS was originally called Gay Related Immune Deficiency?


And that most of the symptoms stemmed from drug ''poppers'' abuse?


I don't recall this. Source?

www.virusmyth.net...

And they would keep producing it...why? There is more money in keeping these patients alive longer and on drugs, so why would they feed them a drug to intentionally kill them? Your logic seems to be, well, illogical.Mariella


It doesn,t seem to be prescribed to ''intentionally kill'' people.. only to Recap money lost on the research and production of this toxic crap..

Like I said unfrortunately i have friends on this stuff and I NEVER saw ANYONE deteriorate so rapidly since my old drummers father was diagnosed with cancer..

ALL my other friends who opted for a ''healthier'' lifestyle are still fine.. both physically and psychologically..

I really hope you are right.. and that the medical profession does REALLY have our best interests at heart but increasinging it seem to be a money making venture.. I,m really sorry to say that because I believe most people who put up with the long hours and the crap to become a doctor are going to end up very disillusioned and apathetic eventually..

I hope you stick it out and are one of the GOODIES!!



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 10:19 PM
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HEY sorry Pstiffy.. your subject was about the possibility of Iran discovering a ''cure''

Will further this debate in a relevant thread when it,s not 7.15 am.. cheers



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 08:29 AM
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Well I wonder if Iran is having a problem with aids in their country and that is why they are trying to work on their own to find a way to control it.

Is not cure for aids as we all know because the nature of the disease but if scientist can control immune system to fight aids in a better way with minimum side effects then it can almost be enough to control many other diseases.

I will like to learn more about the so call boosting formula they are talking about.

Remember they are a country on their own and they are not influence by the powerful multi billion dollar pharmaceutical empire that we have in the US with control to every single medicine that is out there.

So . . . is nice for some to have some hope even if it comes from a country that is seem as a very controvertial one.

Is not much we actually know about Iran beside the terrorist link.

We don't realy know what they are up to when it comes to medical and technological standing.



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 09:35 AM
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Remember they are a country on their own and they are not influence by the powerful multi billion dollar pharmaceutical empire that we have in the US with control to every single medicine that is out there.


You're right, their run by a millionaire figure-head president and a mystical, reclusive cleric who has "control to every single medicine that is out there". Do you not think they could just be using more rhetoric, just as they have been for the best, well, all of time.

Mariella



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by bsl4doc
Do you not think they could just be using more rhetoric, just as they have been for the best, well, all of time.

Mariella


Well you have to understand that Iran is like any other country with social problems of their own, just like in the US, but like any other country that is ostracized from the world they have to deal with the social problems like diseases without the help of countries like US that has an array of medical treatments for everything.

They have to be doing all kind of test and medical research on their own and you can no deny that is nothing we know about them really.



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by bsl4doc
Hmm...I'm calling hoax on this on Iran's part. The key phrase in the article is that they found a "formula" (whatever they mean by that) to cure the "symptoms" of AIDS. The thing is, AIDS in and of itself doesn't really have distinct symptoms, only the opportunistic infections which are present DUE TO AIDS do.

Mariella


Agreed with Mariella -- I'm calling it "hoax."

Their research facilities aren't very good, and their universites aren't on par with first world nations. Like many countries where religion rules the state, any prof or teacher with a different view is banished or assassinated. Russia did this in the 1930's, demanding that all theories put out by any academic match Marxist philosophy. Einstein wasn't a Proper Marxist and his theories were denounced. Darwin wasn't a Proper Marxist and his theories were denounced -- and no mention of either was allowed (they went with Lamarckism.)

Tabriz University is one of the largest in the country... and it pales in comparison with what we have at the University of North Texas (which is not the largest university in Texas or the nation and certainl isn't in the forefront of medical research):
www.hbi.ir...

While it's hard to get much information about a country that tightly locks down its information, there's still data to be had. Notice some contradictions in "number of people living with people who have AIDS" and while a number of women have AIDS, "miraculously" no children (ages 0 to 5) have it. www.unicef.org...

And the "formula for symptoms" -- well, that kind of depends on what's causing the symptoms you see. Once the immune system is weakened, the body is prey to EVERYthing, including hepatitis, pneumonia, yeast infections, cancers, etc, etc.

Anyway, I agree -- hoax for political/power purposes.



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