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The Dimensional Shift Is Here!

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posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by Out of the Box

Originally posted by dgoodpasture

There is no static God because there cannot be a solid beginning.


A solid beginning? Not sure i get you there. God is eternal - no beginning and no end, just because you have never seen something happen, doesn't mean its impossible.


Originally posted by dgoodpasture
NOTHING can NEVER exist.


Again, im not sure what you mean by this.


Originally posted by dgoodpasture
The existence of the universe is therefore eternal, infinite, and SOLID.


What about the orange juice sitting in front of me on my desk?


Originally posted by dgoodpasture
A beginning represents NOTHING before it and nothing CANNOT exist. Why? Well then one must ponder what brang existence into existence? It is infinity.


No, it is God. Consider for example if i want top make a little model world in a box. According to the little people on this world, there was nothing before, because there was no box for their world to live in.


Originally posted by dgoodpasture
"What created that? What created that? and that?" INFINITY.


You are personifying infinity, so clearly, Infinity must be a certain being that created everything (God maybe?). Your whole arguement sounds rather contradictory.


Originally posted by dgoodpasture
The God spoken of in the Bible does meet all these criteria we are just yet to accept it.


I have accepted Him



Originally posted by dgoodpasture
Death is eternal for the conscious being, but while it is alive it is living eternally within its own existence.


No, im livving in a little place i like to call the universe, created by God. I do not live within myself.


Originally posted by dgoodpasture
God is the universe and God created us through evolution, we should live to know God.


No, God isnt the universe! He made the universe.


14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.


God made the stars! And he also made 'the sky' in which they were made (the universe)


Originally posted by dgoodpasture
The universe is an infinite mirror, an infinite duality, and an infinite truth when understood.


an infinite mirror? What is it mirroring?


Originally posted by dgoodpasture
"Heaven" is HERE.


Heaven is a perfect place, this world is not perfect, and neither is any human perfect, so any 'Heaven is within us' arguements are false.



Originally posted by dgoodpasture
We are ALL "Gods" and "Godesses" because "God" is within us and "God" IS us.


The Holy spirit of God can be inside those that he deems worthy, but that is as far as it goes. How can God be us if we were created by him in the first place? That just doesnt make sense at all.



Originally posted by dgoodpasture
"God" IS the universe and we ARE the universe.


We are a part of the universe, yes.



Originally posted by dgoodpasture
The creator creates the creation (us) and then the creation creates, and the creation becomes creators. The creation realizes that it IS the creator.


If the creation creates, it can be a creator, not the creator that created them in the first place.


I'm talking about existence... then what created God? Nothing... and nothing does not exist; God always has been here... therefore God is the universe. We are not just a part of universe, we ARE the universe. Just as a planet is the universe. God is within all of us, there God is us. We are God. God IS the universe, and we ARE the universe, so we ARE God and God IS us... see?
This world is not perfect because we have not accepted heaven yet. We also find perfection in imperfection because things just happen as they must... just as they are right now... and soon it will change just as it should and it must. An infinite mirror... beginning and ending... it mirrors EVERYTHING... addition... subtraction... multiplication... division... forwards, backwards. Most importantly! Thoughts! Our thoughts are all backwards.... we must switch them around and get it right.

About the creator... this is where one must accept infinity and duality. There was no static creator... some guy off in a far away land making the universe with his hands... because how did he get here? The point is... it's eternity... and once it is eternity and infinity it coalesces with the universe. Therefore there is no real creator it's an infinite mirror... We realize we are really looking at ourselves now. We are the infinite universe here with God... creators in its image.

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posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:01 PM
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dgoodpasture,


Thanks for your reply.


Kindest regards.



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:03 PM
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You're very welcome! Thank you for your respectful manner, it is appreciated immensely.



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:07 PM
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How can we 'be' the universe when the atoms that make up our bodies clearly do not make up the whole universe?

If what your saying is true, and 'we are the universe', then that means that i am also you, and you are me. But if i am you, then how come i dont, for instance, know what your thinking?

Maybe you can elaborate what you mean by 'we are the universe'. Perhaps im missing some bigger, deeper aspect of your arguement?

Regards



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:08 PM
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Ah... telepathy : ) This will come with time... yes oneness. First we have to accept and then we can begin to work together and join the so called "spiritual realms". We are not exclusive of the universe. The atoms and molecules that make up our bodies ARE the universe because we are existing within it and it is existing within us.

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posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:11 PM
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Originally posted by dgoodpasture
So If I hired a professional with some credentials and had him type this out to you you'd take my word for what it is? But as long as I'm 21 years old none of my imagination or truth matters? "Imagination is more important that knowledge." Albert Einstein. He was pretty smart.... don't you think? So physical features and my musical interests now discredit my knowledge? How low will you go? Just try and understand what I presented.

Not at all, although you do look like someone famous.


The core of my statement is the fact that the second coming (which have now edited out) or dimensional shifting is not new. These things have been discussed many times before and thus, you are simply repeating what you have learned. Your "imagination" or "truth" is only an extension of things I learned in Philosophy class when you were, well...not even on this Earth. I guess you could say if you are infinity, then I am infinity + 1.

Dimensional shifting is non-secular as you stated recently and is a part of understanding one's own "energy" and how it mixes with everything around us (if you believe in that sort of thing). This energy can be seen at times when you hold your index fingers about 1 inch apart and shift your eyes slightly out of focus. This idea was also the basis of "the Force" on the Star Wars movies.

There are many such groups (and websites) that preach about a coming dimensional shift and yours is not a new idea. Trying to wrap that under "I am the second coming" was frankly a big mistake and actually removes credibility from your position as an enlightened being.


Our purpose is quite simply to love and make each other feel whole inside. The reality is that when we die... we just die and there is nothing after.

Did you forget? Death like life is eternal, unless now you're changing that stance.


I doubt you'd see too many more suicide bombers strapping a vests themselves... because now there is no heaven to enter after you die... heaven is here, and right now it is hell because we haven't accepted what heaven is.

If Heaven is really here and there is no God, then you have just removed everything that Jesus stands for as a symbol of spiritual happiness. Pretty amazing since you started out as the "second coming" and now he doesn't need to come at all since we "just die."

Jesus would be rolling over in his cave.



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by dgoodpasture
Ah... telepathy : ) This will come with time... yes oneness. First we have to accept and then we can begin to work together and join the so called "spiritual realms".


:O So, i could basically know everything everyone is thinking? That'd give me a headache, and i dont like the sound of it. Imagine people intruding on your personal thoughts all the time. A kid goes to school and is about to ask this girl out, he walks up to her, she is laughinng because she already knows whats gonna happen! That would be ridiculous.


Originally posted by dgoodpasture
We are not exclusive of the universe. The atoms and molecules that make up our bodies ARE the universe because we are existing within it and it is existing within us.


The universe is not existing inside us, the universe is a collective term for all matter, see here.



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:17 PM
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Yes, see. Death is eternal for the individual being, but life throughout the universe will go on eternally. I didn't forget my stance. I know exactly what I'm talking about, stop doubting me. God is the infinite universe and Heaven is here. I see what you're trying to do to me... only because you don't understand what I am presenting. There is no such thing as infinity plus 1... what math did you get up to? Infinity is the sum of all numbers... ponder that... it never stops... there is no infinite plus 1. It's an infinite progression.

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posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by Out of the Box

Originally posted by dgoodpasture
Ah... telepathy : ) This will come with time... yes oneness. First we have to accept and then we can begin to work together and join the so called "spiritual realms".


:O So, i could basically know everything everyone is thinking? That'd give me a headache, and i dont like the sound of it. Imagine people intruding on your personal thoughts all the time. A kid goes to school and is about to ask this girl out, he walks up to her, she is laughinng because she already knows whats gonna happen! That would be ridiculous.


Originally posted by dgoodpasture
We are not exclusive of the universe. The atoms and molecules that make up our bodies ARE the universe because we are existing within it and it is existing within us.


The universe is not existing inside us, the universe is a collective term for all matter, see here.


Life won't work that way after we shift... And I ask you... do you not consider yourself part of that matter?



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:21 PM
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I don't get it. What's all this second coming stuff about?



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:22 PM
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Forget about the second coming. It seems to have thrown a wrench in the story now. Let's stick to existentialism. This should be better understood without religion anyway. I apologize, in my excitement and rush of figuring out something ground breaking and earth shattering I mis-termed a few things early on. I see now that Jesus isn't well accepted... plus there are many other religions in the world that would deny this. So... from now on I'll keep it human... and being that am human... I am correcting my mistakes


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posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by dgoodpasture
Yes, see. Death is eternal for the in dividual being. Bu life throughout the universe will go on eternally.


Ah, i see what your saying now, but i still disagree that the universe is inside us because of the fact that our bodies do not contain the whole universe, we are a very small part of all of the atoms out there.


Originally posted by dgoodpastureI know exactly what I'm talking about, stop doubting me.

Please do not take offence to my debate here. Im not trying to be horrible or anything, it is just that the view that 'we are all Jesus' is something i disagree with. We can all be a part of Jesus through his salvation, but we are not Him, we are a part of him. Its the same as with the universe, we are only a part of it.

I pray that you may find the truth



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:25 PM
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I don't mean the ENTIRE universe is in you... I mean you are the universe... therefore the universe is in you. Thank you, and I pray that you may find the truth too.

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posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by dgoodpasture
I don't mean the ENTIRE universe is in you... I mean you are the universe... therefore the universe is in you. Thank you, and I pray that you may find the truth too.

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Well then, surely you'll agree that we are only a part of the universe? (Instead of the entire thing)



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:28 PM
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Well I never recall implying that we are the entire thing... only that since you are the universe, the universe is within you. The part of the universe that you are... is within you, but I'm glad that's cleared up. Thank you


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posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by dgoodpasture
Well I never recall implying that we are the entire thing... only that since you are the universe, the universe is within you. The part of the universe that you are... is within you, but I'm glad that's cleared up. Thank you


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Right, ok, that does make more sense, but i will have to disagree with the way that your wording your arguement. Saying that 'we are the universe' implys that we are a huge, almost endless region of space and time (maybe you're calling me fat? lol)

No problem



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:35 PM
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Hahaha... well... if you let it in your mind... then in a sense you are the entire infinite universe(which I believe is impossible to do! But the thought of infinity is nice
)... that's the acceptance of infinity. When one closes one's eyes, reality is all in the imagination.

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posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by dgoodpasture
When one closes one's eyes, reality is all in the imagination.


Only until you get hit by a car, which wasn't in your imagination. Reality kind of sucks that way.



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 05:40 PM
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And it is not that the universe is expanding at a velocity faster than the speed of light, it's that the universe is infinity. Why can't the scientists accept this? The speed of light is not a speed limit for UFO's... does that mean that UFO's can leave the universe? Impossible because the universe is infinite and it has no edge... an edge would equate to an outside which would equate to a nothing... and which would equate to the universe expanding into nothing... nothing does not exist... the universe is infinite and eternal, and they believe that staring out in a certain direction will grant them the keys to this "big bang" initiator that they have made up. It's infinite in every direction... they'll never find a beginning... because there never was one.

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posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by ZeddicusZulZorander

Originally posted by dgoodpasture
When one closes one's eyes, reality is all in the imagination.


Only until you get hit by a car, which wasn't in your imagination. Reality kind of sucks that way.




Reality and illusion are a subset of imagination and existence... so yeah it would be in your imagination
To make it more clear: Imagination IS existence. Anything one can imagine exists within the mind... one can never imagine nothing because it doesn't exist... the universe is limitless.

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