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Originally posted by SkittlesLA
(No, I am not anti-American, just anti-stupidity...)
SkittlesLA
Originally posted by dgtempe
Ding! Ding! Ding!
FlyersFan is sold! It works!!!
Exactly what i mean. Put this out at a vulnerable time and the rabid right will suck it up without any problem!
Dirty politics at work. That's all it is.
Originally posted by centurion1211
This is a documentary put out by ABC News.
Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Robert "Buzz" Patterson was a military aide to President Clinton from May 1996 to May 1998 and one of five individuals entrusted with carrying the "nuclear football"—the bag containing the codes for launching nuclear weapons.
Lt. Col. Patterson offers a damning list of anecdotes and charges against the President, including how Clinton lost the nuclear codes and shrugged it off; how he stalled and lost the opportunity to launch a direct strike on Osama bin Laden at a confirmed location;
www.buzzpatterson.com...
Originally posted by SkittlesLA
Where along the line did we do something that would make someone angry enough to spend millions of dollars to sneak hundreds (low estimate of terrorist sleeper cells) into the US to fly those planes into the towers? You think it started 4 or 5 years before they started planning 9/11? No, it had to be the straw that broke the camels back...
Not that I say the proper responce is to kill innocents, just that we all have to take an honest look at where our faults lie, I learned a long time ago that it takes two to make a fight, and we need to be sure that we acknowledge our mistakes in this situation, and try to correct our behavior. Doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result is the ultimate in insanity. Treating people with respect is not appeasement, and correcting your mistakes is the adult and responsible thing to do.
Clinton Demands ABC Fix 9/11 Movie or Pull It
An angry Bill Clinton is demanding that ABC "correct all errors? in its upcoming miniseries "The Path to 9/11? ? or pull it from the air.
In a letter to ABC boss Bob Iger, Clinton refuted several of the miniseries? assertions, including that he was too preoccupied with the Monica Lewinsky sex scandal to care about Osama bin Laden.
"The content of this drama is factually and incontrovertibly inaccurate and ABC has the duty to fully correct all errors or pull the drama entirely,? reads the letter, written by Bruce Lindsey, head of the Clinton Foundation, and Douglas Bond, a top lawyer in Clinton?s office.
Bill Clinton
Originally posted by dgtempe
I saw Farengheit 9/11-I dont remember the lies..........
Originally posted by dgtempe
I saw Farengheit 9/11-I dont remember the lies..........
What where they again?
With time, we've seen it all. SO why mention Michael Moore> Because he's fat?
Name me one thing he lied about...There's nothing.
Originally posted by dgtempe
I want you to name the lies.
That's what i asked for. I remember the entire movie and it seems to me that there were no lies...except a little hype here and there. To add drama....
Please name the lies.
Thanks.
Tell you what: The beginning had Osama's family being whisked off in a rush overseas immediatedly after 9/11....the middle had a lot of the relationship that exists between the Bushe's and the Arabs....
There are some highlights, may jolt your memories.
[edit on 7-9-2006 by dgtempe]
In this peaceable kingdom, according to Moore's flabbergasting choice of film shots, children are flying little kites, shoppers are smiling in the sunshine, and the gentle rhythms of life are undisturbed. Then—wham! From the night sky come the terror weapons of American imperialism. Watching the clips Moore uses, and recalling them well, I can recognize various Saddam palaces and military and police centers getting the treatment. But these sites are not identified as such. In fact, I don't think Al Jazeera would, on a bad day, have transmitted anything so utterly propagandistic. You would also be led to think that the term "civilian casualty" had not even been in the Iraqi vocabulary until March 2003.
... why did Moore's evil Saudis not join "the Coalition of the Willing"? Why instead did they force the United States to switch its regional military headquarters to Qatar? If the Bush family and the al-Saud dynasty live in each other's pockets, as is alleged in a sort of vulgar sub-Brechtian scene with Arab headdresses replacing top hats, then how come the most reactionary regime in the region has been powerless to stop Bush from demolishing its clone in Kabul and its buffer regime in Baghdad?
More interesting is the moment where Bush is shown frozen on his chair at the infant school in Florida, looking stunned and useless for seven whole minutes after the news of the second plane on 9/11. Many are those who say that he should have leaped from his stool, adopted a Russell Crowe stance, and gone to work. I could even wish that myself. But if he had done any such thing then (as he did with his "Let's roll" and "dead or alive" remarks a month later), half the Michael Moore community would now be calling him a man who went to war on a hectic, crazed impulse.
Moore concludes with a sonorous reading of some words from George Orwell. The words are taken from 1984 and consist of a third-person analysis of a hypothetical, endless, and contrived war between three superpowers. The clear intention, as clumsily excerpted like this (...) is to suggest that there is no moral distinction between the United States, the Taliban, and the Baath Party and that the war against jihad is about nothing. If Moore had studied a bit more, or at all, he could have read Orwell really saying, and in his own voice, the following:
The majority of pacifists either belong to obscure religious sects or are simply humanitarians who object to taking life and prefer not to follow their thoughts beyond that point. But there is a minority of intellectual pacifists, whose real though unacknowledged motive appears to be hatred of western democracy and admiration for totalitarianism. Pacifist propaganda usually boils down to saying that one side is as bad as the other, but if one looks closely at the writing of the younger intellectual pacifists, one finds that they do not by any means express impartial disapproval but are directed almost entirely against Britain and the United States …
And that's just from Orwell's Notes on Nationalism in May 1945. A short word of advice: In general, it's highly unwise to quote Orwell if you are already way out of your depth on the question of moral equivalence. It's also incautious to remind people of Orwell if you are engaged in a sophomoric celluloid rewriting of recent history.
Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
Bush family loves oil business
Clinton felt pressure from Liberals exposing taliban cruelty and axed the deal with American companies (haliburton).
We are now in plan B ladies and gentlemen. Kick butt don't take names...
AAC