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reply posted on 14-1-2004 @ 04:08 PM by baked
Originally posted by ExTReMeMe
I saw on discovery channel they are gonna start giving marijana to people in a pill form. No more choking on it


Here is some information on Marinol, the pill form of THC.



Synthetic THC / Marinol
Since 1986, synthetic THC (Marinol) has been available as a Schedule II drug, which allows physicians to prescribe it under highly regulated conditions. It is labeled as a anti-nauseant and an appetite stimulant, but doctors prescribe it for other conditions, such as depression and muscle spasticity. However, for people suffering from nausea and vomiting, who are unable to swallow and hold down a pill, smoking marijuana is often the only reliable method of delivery. Smoking has the added benefit of providing relief quickly, often producing relief in minutes, whereas swallowed THC may take four hours or more.

When THC is swallowed, the effects vary considerably, both from one person to the next and in the same person from one episode to another. Much of the swallowed THC is metabolized into other compounds by the liver. Effective dosage rates are difficult to achieve, since swallowed THC takes so long to go into effect and since its effects wear off slowly. Smoked marijuana is a more flexible route of administration, not only because its effects are more immediate, but also because the patient can take only as much as needed.

Another problem with swallowed THC is that the psychoactive side effects may be more intense than those that occur from smoking. In a study of elderly patients, the large dose of oral THC needed to reduce nausea and vomiting produced severe psychoactive effects, reducing its utility as a medicine.

Still another failure of synthetic THC medications is their lack of the multiple ingredients which appear in natural marijuana. Researchers are just beginning to discover the importance of ingredients such as cannabidiol (CBD), which not only offers specific therapeutic effects in muscle spasms, but also serves to reduce the psychoactive effect of THC. CBD's balancing of THC's psychoactive effect may be one reason many patients prefer marijuana to Marinol.

Yet another problem with Marinol and other synthetic forms of THC is cost. Patients report monthly expense of $500 to $900 for Marinol prescriptions. Patients purchasing marijuana on the black market could procure an approximately equivalent supply for less than $500, while those allowed to grow their own supply would be able to produce their 'medicine' for zero cost.



www.ardpark.org...

The last sentence is what proves to me that it has nothing to do with the "drug" itself. They made a pill that is basicly a crappy and expensive subsitute for something that is free and could be abundant.
There is no way to effectivly tax it.
Anyone with a florecent light and a closet can grow the plant.

I express a great interest in this because, my father is Ill with 4 types of cancer. He has been sick for some time now, but finally realised that he cant do anything anymore (stage 4). All he can do is lay in bed and wither away in pain. He is 64 years old and went from 150 lbs to 91 lbs in a few short months. The cancer has taken over his brain/liver/blood/bone and they still don't know what the source is. They say the important thing is not where it originated, but making the quality of life good.
I want to #ing know where it originated, dammit.
Hospice will be coming to set up camp tomorrow.

We will be lucky if he makes it untill Valentines day.
These last days of his are important to me.
I and the rest of my family want him to be as comfortable as possible. Nothing works any more.
He refuses to try Marijuana because it's Illegal. He won't budge. He is aware of and agrees that it would help him, but he would rather waste away in pain then break (or get one of his children to) one of the dumbest of all laws.

I admire his stance, but don't agree with it.
It may be too late for him, but there are others out there suffering and that will suffer just as bad. What about them?
This whole thing really nauseates, infuriates, and saddens me.
Is there any compassion left in the world?

Baked


reply posted on 14-1-2004 @ 05:01 PM by baked
Here is an unbiased source.
New England Journal of Medicine (Medical Marijuana)

A take by the CBC:
www.cbc.ca...


Here is a report from Cancer Page.com:



The potential medical properties of marijuana are interesting to researchers because of the drug’s pain and nausea-relieving effects in patients with cancer, HIV and multiple sclerosis. Now, scientists at Complutense University, Spain, have discovered that compounds acting at cannabinoid receptors eradicate brain tumors in one third of rats and mice treated, and prolong the survival of another third.

Dr. Manuel Guzman and colleagues studied mice and rats with a brain tumor called malignant glioma and treated them with THC or a man-made chemical with similar properties. The substances eradicated the tumor in almost a third of the animals. THC is the active ingredient in marijuana.

Although rare, malignant glioma is always fatal. Even after treatment with surgery, chemotherapy and radiation, the average survival time is less than a year.

The findings suggest that these substances, known as cannabinoids, hold promise as a therapy for the cancer, which often fails to respond to conventional treatment, the authors explain.

Dr. Guzman says cannabinoids like THC appear to extend survival time and even cure the disease, in rats at least. According to Dr. Guzman, the next step is to try to gain a better understanding of how the substances attack the cancer and to see if they will work in people.

www.cancerpage.com...


Hope this enlightens just one person!


reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 10:02 AM by baked
Originally posted by EastCoastKid
Baked,
I'm sorry to hear about your father. I hope you have some serious quality time with him before his time comes. Hang in there.


Thanks for your kind words EastCoast!
It's hard to loose a parent, especially when you are very close to them.
One thing I have come to realise is, Bereavement can either destroy you or help you grow mentally and spiritually. It's all how you look at things and how you let them affect you.
I know he has not passed on yet, and that will be hard
But I will get thru it. I have great support from my Girlfriend and Children. I am extremely blessed to have them in my life.

There are Conservitaves that endorse Medical Marijuana.
Here is one example:



Newt Gingrich's Letter Supporting Medical Marijuana


The following letter by Rep. Newt Gingrich, former Speaker of the House, in support of medical access to marijuana originally appeared in the March 19, 1982 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA).

To the Editor,

The American Medical Association's Council on Scientific Affairs should be commended for its report, "Marijuana: Its Health Hazards and Therapeutic Potential" (1981;246:1823). Not only does the report outline evidence of marijuana's potential harms, but it distinguishes this concern from the legitimate issue of marijuana's important medical benefits. All too often the hysteria that attends public debate over marijuana's social abuse compromises a clear appreciation for this critical distinction.
www.norml.org...




Here is another Consevitave pro pot:


Republican Governor Gary Johnson of New Mexico has recently spoken out about his belief that the war on drugs has been a failure, and he has proposed the legalization of marijuana. His willingness to challenge the establishment, especially the leadership of his own political party, has stimulated a growing national debate on marijuana policy that was long overdue, and broken the myth of consensus -- that all responsible elected officials support marijuana prohibition.
www.norml.org...


Here is some more:

Representatives Barney Frank (D-MA) and Ron Paul (R-TX) reintroduced legislation in the 107th Congress on July 20, 2001 to provide for the medical use of marijuana. The bill, H.R. 2592, is titled the "States' Rights to Medical Marijuana Act."
www.norml.org...




The Democrats do outnumber the Republicans, but to be Republican does not mean you are anti-Marijuana.
Let's remember, There were more arrests for Marijuana and money wasted on the "drug war" under Bill (I never inhaled) Clinton than any other administration.



reply posted on 15-1-2004 @ 11:44 AM by baked
Originally posted by SpittinCobra
First of all let me say most people are not going to trust some Facts, because they are not reported in the NEWS, (Another source of control.) . i am a smoker, i am not concerned one bit of dieing of cancer. We have a friend that is in really bad shape, she just cant kick it, an i know if she smoked from the bong for a year or two she would recover 100%. Chemo.. is killing people, there is a cure, The goverment is keeping it from the people. Why is it ? Why not help millions of people? I wish i knew the answer, i cant figure it out. Do they hate the people? can anyone the goverment thinks its GOD?


I am going to let you answer that question with this:


The answer to cancer has been known! We are talking about something which was banned by the FDA years ago...Vitamin B-17, also know as laetrile and amydalin which is found in most fruit seeds...Namely apricot seeds. The apricot seed was claimed as the cure for all cancers over 30 years ago. It was even more strongly claimed that when one eats about 3-7 apricot seeds per day they can never develop cancer, just as one can never get scurvy if they have an orange every day, or pellagra if they have some B vitamin food here and there. Of course when a person's body is completely eaten up by cancer, the apricot seed and it's extract (laetrile and vitamin b17) would only prolong their life many times longer than chemotherapy and might not completely save them. The pharmaceuticals pushed the FDA into making it illegal to sell apricot seeds or vitamin B17. Even to this day, you can't get "raw" apricot seeds in your health food store, only the dried ones which have all the important enzymes killed off.
www.karlloren.com...




And if you want to try it for your self, sorry cant do!


Dear Valued Customer:

As of August of 2000, our companies Worldwithoutcancer.com and Healthgenesis.com are no longer allowed the legal introduction, or delivery for introduction into U.S. interstate commerce, any product containing or purporting to contain amygdalin, also referred to as laetrile or vitamin B17, and apricot seeds. According to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, the status of Laetrile in the U.S. is no different than that of any other unapproved drug.
www.b17.net...




Oh no not apricot seeds!
Are we living in one big death camp?

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