Originally posted by omega1
Pot is illeagel because it is how organized crime gets all their money for larger operations. THe gov cant handle the war on drugs as it is.

good info guys

THERE IS NO WAR ON DRUGS!!!!

"THE WAR ON DRUGS" IS NOTHING BUT A MASK FOR CONTROL OF THE DRUG TRADE!

AND THEN THERE'S THAT LITTLE GOVERNMENT-PRIVATE INDUSTRY RACKET KNOWN AS THE PRISON INDUSTRY....

Think of the different country we would have if hemp were legal and deregulated so that any one could grow it. Decentralized power and independence from the necessity for moving goods across the world with petrochemicals would be a positive outcome.
Deregulation of hemp would be the largest transfer of wealth and power to the common man in history , because of advances in hemp technology. Every community could grow hemp in fields outside the city. Each community in America would be reshaped. A small plant for processing the hemp into fiber would provide decentralized textile production. Fiberglass made of hemp is ten times stronger than steel, according to popular mechanics magazine(1938) Henry Ford wanted to make autobodies out of hemp fiber and eventually grow automobiles from the soil. I read an article about a new technology for molding . One of the boat companies started using the technology. Air pressure injected through millions of holes controls the shape of a boat's hull. The number of workers required to make a boat was cut dramatically. I can't see why we shouldn't be using machines like that to form houses and most of the other items we make.
Recently I read that in America, only sixteen percent of farmland is not polluted with aluminum. That is not right; aluminum is linked with alzheimer's disease. The large industries of steel and aluminum have good reason to be biased against hemp legalization because of the competition.
If our buildings were made of this hemp fiberglass, they would last a long time. Maybe you would not have to reroof your house every 100 years or so, if that. Of course some industries would suffer. But the new technologies would reward them with a cleaner environment, affordable homes (Oh. I bet bankers wouldn't like that.) And of course oil produced by hemp seed would replace many toxic paints (I loved the taste of lead when I was a child. I used to lick the walls alot. Not. But maybe I am lead poisoned to some extent. Leaded gas. ouch! Fiberglass could replace lumber and bricks in houses. So many manufactures would face sudden change. Too bad. A lot of jobs would be created..
The oil supply is at peak production and will be a rare commodity in 35 years, from what I read at www.fromthewilderness.com. Where will the oil come from then? Plants. For some reason the elite in Communist Russia hated small farmers. They took family farms away and desired to only have large producers. Look it's happening again. Hemp oil will probably be legalized when the elite control the farmland. When no one is allowed to grow anything but centralized, monopolized power.
Donald Rumsfeld just five years ago worked for a company that designed nuclear power plants for North Korea and now thinks we should go to war with N. korea because they might threaten to use the dangerous byproduct of nuclear bombs and death. Surprise! I can see our military-industrial complex just banging itself in the side of its collective head and saying, "I didn't see that one coming! Duh."
Yet, we should'nt deregulate hemp because someone might get high? We're talking getting high here people, not nuclear death. Remember the evil peacenics? So it seems that it's important that Donald Rumsfeld make money selling the process for death to a communist country that we have been at war with , but it's not ok to get on the slippery slope of deregulating hemp? Marijuana , I admit is a slippery slope, but so is prohibition law in the hands of people whose sole purpose is to protect their own income, at the expense of others.
It seems ironic, too that, when it comes to Multinational Corporations selling genetically engineered food to Europe, the very idea of cautious protectionism is dismissed as ignorant, fearmongering politics. So, then is GM food a slippery slope whereby even more sinister events occur than a pot smoker getting high. I swear, if scientists could invent the way they might engineer a mans upper body to a horse. Such is the unlimited slope before that technology. Hey cool smoke a joint and let's do that!!!

Right! A power shift! EXACTLY why it's the DEVIL WEED.
I believe it will become legal (to some extent) sooner rather than later.

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Yea, the only problem with pot is that it's extremely addictive! Don't go off saying it shrinks tumors, and that the govt. should have told us. THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY! If they would've told us, people would have been protesting all over the place to make it legal. Then they'd have to initiate martial law and start the NWO 20 years to early.

(ok, maybe not that last part )

Don't get me wrong yea yea yea.. we could probably use some money from the taxes to give the rich bastards some corporate welfare until they get off the monopolized tit.. of prohibition welfare. This letter reminds me of Georgia's declaration of reasons for leaving the union of states prior to the civil war. Government monopoly. favoring some sections over the others. Northeast over south and west. I wonder of Andy Jackson smoked pot. If he did NOBODY SAID ANYTHING. It wasn't even illegal. you could buy it at the pharmacy without a prescription.Got money? you could buy it. I digress.
But with hemp, you can grow that in most sections of the country. Maybe it won't grow in the desert. Maybe. But oil seed production would work in arid lands. And killer bud. too. I won't deny that. wow. hey \woopee

Just last week there was a guy who was going to get run over by a truck.. I saved him from such an awful death by pushing in front of a car.. welcome to the new world order. hehe
jk

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Originally posted by mig12
Yea, the only problem with pot is that it's extremely addictive! Don't go off saying it shrinks tumors, and that the govt. should have told us. THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY! If they would've told us, people would have been protesting all over the place to make it legal. Then they'd have to initiate martial law and start the NWO 20 years to early.

(ok, maybe not that last part )

Right extremely addictive....like Cigaretts which are legal? Wrong! It's not Extremely Addictive. Where you get that crap from? Reefer Madness? I supose all the pot smokers have semen stains in their pants from jacking off because they could not find anyone to rape? Do you believe everything you are told?

Originally posted by baked

Originally posted by mig12
Yea, the only problem with pot is that it's extremely addictive! Don't go off saying it shrinks tumors, and that the govt. should have told us. THEY DIDN'T TELL YOU FOR YOUR OWN SAFETY! If they would've told us, people would have been protesting all over the place to make it legal. Then they'd have to initiate martial law and start the NWO 20 years to early.

(ok, maybe not that last part )

Right extremely addictive....like Cigaretts which are legal? Wrong! It's not Extremely Addictive. Where you get that crap from? Reefer Madness? I supose all the pot smokers have semen stains in their pants from jacking off because they could not find anyone to rape? Do you believe everything you are told?

When did I say anything about rape? I know it's addictive. All I have to do is mosey on down to the halfway house at the end of the block, and talk to the potheads. I do not, do not, believe cig's should be legal either, because they too are habit forming.
Oh yeah, what the hell is Reefer Madness?
( No, seriously I've never heard of it before)

Reefer Madness is Govt. Propganda (a Movie) designed to make people vote a certian way. All lies.
The rape thing was from "Reefer Madness" watch it and you might see what the govt. wants you to believe. You might be insulted at the stupid exaggerations the movie uses.


Those people at the halfway house are most likely crackheads not pot heads, big difference!

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Ok, whatever. I'll just play along and listen to you guys and watch you guys argue back and forth about why pot has medicinal qualites.

Originally posted by mig12
Ok, whatever. I'll just play along and listen to you guys and watch you guys argue back and forth about why pot has medicinal qualites.

Naww.... Feel free to argue your point. I was just explaining to you that your "facts" in my opinion, were wrong. Many others will tell you the same thing.
Read the history of it, it's quite interesting really.

First of all the war on drugs is about keeping prices high.

Now lets be honest here,

there is no thrill in pot that does not get you high, is there?

Yes hemp is a very useful product one of the most useful.

Of course hemp has medicinal value but that is not desireable because hemp cannot be 'patentened.'

Morphine and Codine come from the poppy which makes opium and heroin, yet those drugs are available and abused with much worse consequences and more addictive, way more addictive.
Would they be so quick to try to eradicate the poppy? No! Bigger problem than weed, IMO


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you really haven't read about reefer madness? You really should read the statement of dr william woodward in congressional testimony before congress. Go to schaeffer's drug library to read the records. Or just type in your search bar "statement of Dr. William C. woodward+marijuana tax act of1937. Then read in the same congressional hearings about the "tests' the government did to back up their story. They injected the active ingredient in marijuana, THC into the brains of more than a hundred dogs. One of them died within a couple of weeks. Can you imagine someone injecting you in the BRAIN with THC? nobody does that! and out of a hundred or more dogs, one died. If one didn't I bet the government guys would have hit one over the head with a hammer to make it so. Maybe the one dog who died had internal bleeding from the injection. ...or the government used the wrong size drill bit to make a hole for the needle. Reefer madness, baby! And remember what has been said about the only thing to fear is fear itself. Well the government wants you to be afraid. Very afraid. If someone injected an oxygen bubble in your head you would problably die of that.Ablob of sticky THC would be worse than a blood clot, which is called a stroke. By the way research indicates inhaling some pot could stop a stroke with one puff. It does this by relaxing the blood vessels in your brain, The vessel expands, and the clot passes harmlessly through so your brain tissue doesn't lack oxygen. Oxygen is a good thing, unless it's injected into you. Marijuana herbs can be good or bad too . You see the prohibitionists claim there is no responsible use of marijuana. Any use is abuse. Automobiles and French fries are deadly if abused, and are a slippery slope. first there were cars, then trucks, then big trucks, and tanks, and oil spills and thousands of people a year with thousands of tons of metal streaking down the road with some nut driving with a newspaper in his lap and an elbow on the wheel and french fries on the floor and the seat and a cigarette in one hand and a cellphone in the other and then lady dianna was killed in a car wreck. too. So lets outlaw automobiles and wheels. You know the worst example of reefer madness is that people have been thrown in jail for smoking pot and all under the excuse that marijuana is mind altering and might make you kill someone. And the pot smokers got more jail time than actual murderers. think about that. It's a crime against moneyed interests. What else would explain it. We would not give a person more hard time in jail for owning a gun or gun. or a knife. or a boxcutter or a rock or a pillow, than for actually killing someone with one of those items, would we? All are slippery slopes because they are potential murder weapons. Now legalizing homosexuality is a slippery slope. Oh-boy. throw in some baby oil and and a romantic dinner for two. Muslim countries execute them. If we make homosexuality legal then we are increasing the cultural differences between the christian and the west and the islamic countries. America: Alcohol is ok. homosexuality is ok- arab countries pot is ok alcohol a crime homosexuality a punishable by death. I don't know details about which islamic countries do what exactly but it seems like a great divide to me.. Do a test if you are brave. drink a enough alcohol to get a buzz say three beers. Sit down in front of your computer and see if you can get a decent thought typed out. Then get high and see if you can be creative. pot-creative-alcohol destructive. to me anyway, goodnight.
p.s. go to a free country and do it-it's illegal here.
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Marijuana is the miracle drug that seems to be saving millions of lives. Who is responsible for the illegalization of marijuana?.......conservatives

Why would conservatives want to prevent a natural miracle drug that could save millions of lives from being legalized?
Because they our evil.........simple as that

Conservatives remind me of these extremist muslims. They our both not open to new ideas. And they only believe in their ideology or nothing else.



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Originally posted by Killuminati
Marijuana is the miracle drug that seems to be saving millions of lives. Who is responsible for the illegalization of marijuana?.......conservatives

Why would conservatives want to prevent a natural miracle drug that could save millions of lives from being legalized?
Because they our evil.........simple as that

Conservatives remind me of these extremist muslims. They our both not open to new ideas. And they only believe in their ideology or nothing else.



[Edited on 29-11-2003 by Killuminati]

Not entirely true
There were more Marijuana USER arrests under Klinton than any other president. It has nothing to do with which party is in office (unless it's Libitarian) it has to do with $$$$greed$$$

Originally posted by jrod
I believe that pot is illegal largely due to the southern farmers who know that if hemp was industrialized in the US, their cotton picking days will be over, tobacco would also loose a lot of business because most people much rather smoke weed that that cigs.
Most states have a clause in their constitution that enalbes any amendment or law that recieves enough signatures to be voted on. I think a initiative on the ballot like Hemp for Farmers could pass in most states. If you focus on the positive and tell anti-pot people of the benefits of hemp AND tell tell them that hemp is the male plant and pot is the female plant it would get passed.
Now with some research that proves THC has medical uses maybe that will help to persuade people in its favor. There are so many prescription and non-Rx drugs on the market that are harmful and have no concrete evidence of working, but they are still on the market, but our the right leaders are quick to dismiss all the eveidence that supports THC, marijuana derivitves as an effective medicine. WTF?

Tobacco would gain , they already have the equipment and markteting in place to make blunts. Plus they could always mix the two into the same package.

I saw on discovery channel they are gonna start giving marijana to people in a pill form. No more choking on it

It's still not the same.
I like choking on it. I like the taste.