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Russia to resort to Pre-Emptive Strikes

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posted on Nov, 4 2003 @ 10:29 AM
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Welcome to the New World Order.

Why should Russia NOT be allowed to launch a pre-emptive missile strike when it's been the U.S.' bread-and-butter, as well as Israel's for the last little while.

I remember way back when, when I thought the world was actually getting SAFER.

Thank GW Bush and his neo-con cronies for this one, Putin is just trying to keep up.

And say goodbye to Chechnya.

story.news.yahoo.com.../afp/20031104/ts_afp/russia_putin_military_031104085034


"Putin reaffirms Russia's right to preemptive strikes
Tue Nov 4, 3:50 AM ET

MOSCOW (AFP) - President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) has reaffirmed his position that Russia can resort to preemptive military strikes because the policy is also practiced by the United States.

"If the principle of preventive use of force continues to develop in international practice, then Russia reserves the right to act in an analogous manner to defend its national interests," Putin said in an interview whose transcript was released Tuesday.

"All nuclear powers are improving their nuclear potential and Russia will do the same," Putin said in an interview with Italian journalists ahead of this week's visit to Rome, according to Interfax.

"But our nuclear policy, as opposed, say, to that of the Soviet Union, is not directed at anyone, it is directed only at strengthening our security," Putin said.

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov in October said that Russia would re-evaluate its nuclear stance should NATO remain a military alliance with an "offensive" doctrine.

But later, speaking in the United States, he assured NATO countries that Moscow was not seeking to adopt a preemptive nuclear strategy.

"Russia still regards nuclear weapons as a means of political deterrence. We do not envisage a scenario or a situation where we would use such weapons first," said Ivanov on October 9.

Putin in late October said that Russia still planned to rely on its massive nuclear arsenal for decades to come despite signing a broad disarmament agreement with the United States last year.

He said Russia has a "significant amount" of SS-19 intercontinental ballistic missiles that had never previously deployed -- and were thus not part of disarmament negotiations -- and which remain mothballed for emergency use.

He said they would be the perfect weapon for breaking through a potential missile defense shield that has been heavily backed by US President George W. Bush.

"These rockets could easily break through any missile shield for decades to come," Putin warned.

"In the meantime, we will begin producing new strategic weapons that will guarantee our strategic nuclear missile deterrence system," he said. "



[insert ominous music]


jakomo





[Edited on 4-11-2003 by Jakomo]



posted on Nov, 4 2003 @ 03:09 PM
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I knew this was going to happen. I'm pretty sure other countries would adopt similar policies if they haven't already.


Pres.Bush had set up a dangerous precedent.

[Edited on 4-11-2003 by gooking]



posted on Nov, 4 2003 @ 03:12 PM
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A pre-emptive strike on Isreal maybe?



posted on Nov, 4 2003 @ 03:14 PM
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Of course it was going to happen. G.W.B junior is part of the NWO and thier plan is to bring instability to the world and make war. They still need to wipe out 80% of the world population dont they?



posted on Nov, 4 2003 @ 03:19 PM
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Uh-oh, dont know why but this sounds a bit like John Titor



posted on Nov, 4 2003 @ 03:27 PM
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Read further...


But later, speaking in the United States, he assured NATO countries that Moscow was not seeking to adopt a preemptive nuclear strategy.

"Russia still regards nuclear weapons as a means of political deterrence. We do not envisage a scenario or a situation where we would use such weapons first," said Ivanov on October 9.


This is nothing but political posturing to further get the US (moreso Bush specifically) to realize that a continuing policy of pre-emptive stike as defense is innane at best...(and, much as I hate to admit it...Putin is right)...



posted on Nov, 4 2003 @ 03:33 PM
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Haha!!!
Russia making pre-emptive strikes?
Like this is something new?

Take a look at history since WW2 and you will see that the majority of Moscow's military activity has been pre-emptive.



posted on Nov, 4 2003 @ 04:34 PM
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i have an idea. lets end this pre emptive bs and just wait for the bad guys to # up. then BOOM! hit them with everything we have. that way our wars will be legitimate



posted on Nov, 4 2003 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyIvan
i have an idea. lets end this pre emptive bs and just wait for the bad guys to # up. then BOOM! hit them with everything we have. that way our wars will be legitimate


Well, here's hoping it isn't you or your loved ones who are struck down while we "Wait for the bad guys to **** up".

vance



posted on Nov, 4 2003 @ 09:11 PM
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Whats even more hilarious is that no one has mentioned a few other nations that are taking on the doctrine of pre-emptive strike............like France, for one......


Pre-emptive strike has been a long standing "unseen" military doctrine.......it has only come to the surface/visability due to the US bringing forth as a proclaimed 'doctrine' in fighting the "war on terrorism".....

If Russia or China or even France wishes to adopt the same doctrine, whats the big deal?
Its the same ones making an issue out of it that are also claiming that any nation can proliferate and build nukes also (i.e.: Iran, N. Korea, etc.).......hmmm....
Nukes=pre-emptive strike capability.......



regards
seekerof



posted on Nov, 4 2003 @ 09:18 PM
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I feel that pre-emptive strikes are asinine and wrong, no matter who the striker is. A pre-emptive strike could be justified if there was undeniable proof that the nation is under threat. In the case of Afghanistan and Iraq, there wasn't really that big of a threat. The biggest threat to this nation comes from an individual or group of individuals rather than from a country *although a country is a rather large group of individuals, and even then, their opinion on the strike will be split between kill them or don't*. My final sumation is that if it's good enough for Bush and Co. to pre-emptive strike when they want to, it will bite them in the ass when the U.S. gets struck.



posted on Nov, 4 2003 @ 09:25 PM
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What's good for the goose is good for the gander, they always say. Can't say I'm surprised, or that I necessarily blame them. No different from what we did...and certainly no different from what the Russians did with Afghanistan in the 80's.

Vladimir Putin is a very no nonsense leader. Ex KGB man who won't take garbage from anyone. I can't say he handled the Russian theater situation with the Chechen rebels very wisely, but it shows you how serious he gets when he is being threatened.

A lot of similarities to our own commander in chief, don't you think?



posted on Nov, 5 2003 @ 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by Leveller
Haha!!!
Russia making pre-emptive strikes?
Like this is something new?

Take a look at history since WW2 and you will see that the majority of Moscow's military activity has been pre-emptive.


Wasn't most of the strikes caused by the Soviet Union, as in different govt?



posted on Nov, 5 2003 @ 09:02 PM
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is an invasion of the United states in the works over there ?



posted on Nov, 5 2003 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by KrazyIvan
is an invasion of the United states in the works over there ?

I would think not - invasion would be way too expensive in money and personnel, all they can hope to do is nuke us into the stone age...



posted on Nov, 5 2003 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by MrEisenhower
Uh-oh, dont know why but this sounds a bit like John Titor


ya i agree, alot of stuff kinda seams like what he was saying,

and alot of other stuff shows hes a fake also, but we wiill all find out in time



posted on Nov, 9 2003 @ 09:52 PM
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we'll rip ivan a new one.




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