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Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
First, if Atlantis were a planet, I seriously doubt that Plato would have spoke of it as a "city-nation". In order for atlantis to have been a planet, one would have to assume that Plato was either an ancient astronaut or he went on a spiritual journey through space and time to view Atlantis.
The tale, my friend, he said, is as follows: In the first place, the earth, when looked at from above, is like one of those balls which have leather coverings in twelve pieces, and is of divers colors, of which the colors which painters use on earth are only a sample. But there the whole earth is made up of them, and they are brighter far and clearer than ours; there is a purple of wonderful luster, also the radiance of gold, and the white which is in the earth is whiter than any chalk or snow. Of these and other colors the earth is made up, and they are more in number and fairer than the eye of man has ever seen; and the very hollows (of which I was speaking) filled with air and water are seen like light flashing amid the other colors, and have a color of their own, which gives a sort of unity to the variety of earth.
www.constitution.org...
Originally posted by masqua
The tale, my friend, he said, is as follows: In the first place, the earth, when looked at from above, is like one of those balls which have leather coverings in twelve pieces, and is of divers colors, of which the colors which painters use on earth are only a sample. But there the whole earth is made up of them, and they are brighter far and clearer than ours; there is a purple of wonderful luster, also the radiance of gold, and the white which is in the earth is whiter than any chalk or snow. Of these and other colors the earth is made up, and they are more in number and fairer than the eye of man has ever seen; and the very hollows (of which I was speaking) filled with air and water are seen like light flashing amid the other colors, and have a color of their own, which gives a sort of unity to the variety of earth.
www.constitution.org...
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
The Sumerians also knew alot about our solar system that we just relatively recently found out. For example, the Sumerians were aware of the existence of Pluto.
Do you have any proof that these articles are wrong? If so, present the full list of planets and sources.
The Sumerians of Babylon were probably the first people to make a calendar
Originally posted by Byrd
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
The Sumerians also knew alot about our solar system that we just relatively recently found out. For example, the Sumerians were aware of the existence of Pluto.
Could you point to a table that lists the COMPLETE list of planets in Sumerian? And references to the document that it came from... one that shows they knew of planets to Pluto and possibly beyond?
Meanwhile, here's a list of planet names in both ancient and modern languages. Sumerian, Babylonian, and Sanskrit (another ancient written language) are near the bottom: www.nineplanets.org...
...and a PDF of an article from a journal of folklore (very nice article) associating gods with planets:
www.folklore.ee...=%22sumerian%20planet%20names%22
So there's my proof, in the words of the people themselves, that they didn't know Pluto or Neptune or Uranus or any other planets beyond Saturn.
Do you have any proof that these articles are wrong? If so, present the full list of planets and sources.
There is more information where that came from. Never sell the ancients short. They knew many things that we, as great as we THINK we are, are only now beginning to find out.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
www.sumerian.org...
www.pureinsight.org...
Originally posted by Byrd
Meanwhile, here's a list of planet names in both ancient and modern languages. Sumerian, Babylonian, and Sanskrit (another ancient written language) are near the bottom: www.nineplanets.org...
...and a PDF of an article from a journal of folklore (very nice article) associating gods with planets:
www.folklore.ee...=%22sumerian%20planet%20names%22
So there's my proof, in the words of the people themselves, that they didn't know Pluto or Neptune or Uranus or any other planets beyond Saturn.
Originally posted by stumason
It is frustrating in these forums when you come and slap some theory down because academia doesn't accept it, then back it up with a rather flakey piece of evidence that is quite obviously not written for the purpose your using it. Are we to assume, that because academia doesn't accept something, then it is wrong? Based on that, we'd get no where.
For example, Black Holes, until recently, were just theoretical and not long before that, many scientists didn't believe they existed at all.
Surely the purpose of science is to test theories and expand knowledge, not become bogged down in a territorial "I'm right, your not" stalemate where new ideas are slapped down because they do not conform with orthodox views?
[edit on 7/9/06 by stumason]
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
If we are so far ahead of the ancients in "knowledge" why is it that we, with all of our "superior" technology cannot reconstruct the pyramids with the precision that the ancients built them the first time?
The only thing preventing us from building a pyramid today, identical to those at Giza, is the cost. Much as the same reason as why we don't built huge medieval castles or gothic cathedrals anymore.
Originally posted by Marduk
this book was released a year ago
and not surprisingly
it sank without trace like its namesake
he claims to have found a sunken continent which matches all of Platos details except of course that it took hundreds of years to submerge and in fact did so about 30,000 years ago
he also claims to be the first person to suggest this area when in fact hes just one of many
more smoke from the fire imo
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Originally posted by Essan
The only thing preventing us from building a pyramid today, identical to those at Giza, is the cost. Much as the same reason as why we don't built huge medieval castles or gothic cathedrals anymore.
That's the first time I've ever heard that.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Regardless, if one wants to really examine the pyramids of ancient egypt, one quickly finds that the stones were so precisely placed that you cannot even fit a razor blade between the stones. If we are capable of such a feat, I have yet to see the building or monument where it was done. *SHRUG*
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
When one examines how much of our earth is still relatively uncharted territory it stands to reason as to why many things haven't been solved. It always has seemed rather ironic to me that we spend billions and billions of dollars on space travel every year, when we are not even aware of everything that is on earth. Rather ironic,indeed.
Originally posted by Essan
To be fair to Speaker though, his purpose for starting this thread is quite correct: it is indeed ridiculous and illogical to argue that, because we haven't found Atlantis on Earth, then it must be on another planet.