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Retirement of the Sea Harrier. The aircraft has been retired, yes, because they are not needed now and funding could be better spent elsehwere, but they havent just been thrown in the bin.
The Navy has AA cover in the form of the soon to be introduced Type-45
It also has new attack submarines soming in the form of the Astute Class.
The RAF, I think we all know about them too.
Procurements are at an all time high, with a new "SMART" procurement process put in to enable things to be delivered at a lower cost.
What your getting confused over are the Tabloid
Well of course, ex-senior military personnel, I assume that is your definition of a totally non-interested party?
It would seem consistent with your apparant view that they never be put 'in harms way' by the democratically elected political leadership of this country tho.
Or give the UK Armed forces more of a Budget to work with rather than cut back on their budget over all.
Irrespective of how you believe they went out there the fact is that they are now out there (in both Iraq and Afghanistan) under formal and agreed UN mandate.
Well coming from a 'military family' of several generations myself I am well aware that there is a grave risk in this repeated nonsense that the only voice that should count is a military one.
They aren't exactly what you call impartial.
Their proper place is to advise the political leadership, nothing more.
Originally posted by spencerjohnstone
And yours is being an ex Labour Supporter an all eh?
Think you need to stop with the personal attacks and get real yourself dude.
And why should they fight someone else's war? Give me a good reason.
I was using that as a general comment over the aging fleet off aircraft the Uk has and the Underresources they have also over not having enough manpower, you are the one who has distorted what I have posted.
Does not matter, the politicians knew for a fact that they were not just going over to just do peacekeeping.
I could care less wether you come from a military family or not, btw I come from one also that is besides the point.
I think they are more qualified to give an answer than so called politicians who are not there on the ground seeing what is happening first hand.
Originally posted by sminkeypinkey......and like I said, this stopped being ATS aircraft matter (if it ever was) and became a UK politics matter long ago.