New Development in Johnny Gosch / Jeff Gannon Case!

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posted on Sep, 4 2006 @ 09:06 PM
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This is one of the cases that reeks of true conspiracy. Ever since Gannon/Gorch a male prostitute was allowed into the Bush white house with little or no reason or supervision and was given Press privileges for some fly by nite news organization. This Deal stinks and I can see it bringing down a lot of reprobates masquerading as politicians and Whitehouse staff.




posted on Sep, 4 2006 @ 09:56 PM
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I saw Conspiracy of Silence quite a while ago. It 's an eye-opener, a must see.

I'm not seeing a pentagram. There's not enough lines. Looks like an X with a line under as someone noted, or perhaps even a pyramid with two lines or dots above it. Reminds me of the Illuminati pyramid, but that's just me.




People always ask and wonder, how could people be made to commit heinous crimes against the citizens of their own country, such as to perpetrate 9/11, the OKC bombing, assassinations of public figures, and Presidents even? The brainwashing and mental enslavement of kids through abuse and reality detachment when they're young, and the peadophilia and blackmail of public figures associated with it, all goes a long way to explaining all that. It all just fits into place. I believe what we're seeing here is just the tip of a single tentacle of the global shadow government and how it operates. Evil does exist, folks, and it holds the kings of men on a leash.




[edit on 2006-9-6 by wecomeinpeace]



posted on Sep, 4 2006 @ 10:02 PM
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Is there a database of missing people online, I did a google on the year 1982 missing persons, but could not come up with anything? Have they identified the other two boys yet?



posted on Sep, 5 2006 @ 02:45 AM
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Originally posted by wecomeinpeace
Conspiracy of Silence was an eye-opener. A must see.

I'm not seeing a pentagram. There's not enough lines. Looks like an X with a line under as someone noted, or perhaps even a pyramid with two lines or dots above it. Reminds me of the Illuminati pyramid, but that's just me.





I messed with these images my self but couldn't come up with anything better than what you have presented here. I could be wrong, but the "brand" in the second pic from the left looks like a butterfly over a line. The line though, could possibly be just an artifact from the whole "branding" process. Could this be a Monarch butterfly we are looking at?



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 02:10 AM
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I too don't see a Pentagram. The brand, to me at least, looks kind of like a Roman numeral.



posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 01:02 PM
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Does anyone have an actual picture of this so called brand? A real photo of the brand taken from someone who was rescued or managed to get away from these people who are doing human trafficking. (sp?).

I think perhaps it is simply a drawn on, pretend tatttoo, the kid had previous to his being kidnapped or a fake tatttoo that is perhaps wearing off. Kids that age are always drawing stuff on themselves or one another. It may not be a brand at all.

Heck my own kids used to come home with stuff drawn all over their arms and I would make them wash it off, sometimes it would be drawn on with an ink that would not wash all the way off and you would get a similar faded out distorted look much like the one on that kid's arm.

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posted on Sep, 6 2006 @ 01:59 PM
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wow, lot of reading there but I could not stop.
I have never heard of this case or Johnny.
This is wild.
Here is my point view.
If this is not a conspiracy invovling the government, etc. then someone is trying to reach out. both ideas are facinating. Think of ALL the children abducted, all the pics you see at walmart on the walls. Could you imagine if this got blown open and it went up through the ranks in the government, wow.
Also, true or not, the connection to the Boheimum Grove (did I get that right?) is interesting.
I really hope we can get some more information here or some other breaking news, I am hooked tot his story now.
Good fine.



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 10:29 AM
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I'm starting to think it's not a brand. I'm assuming the picture where the brand is most visible was most likely taken not too long after he was kidnapped, evident by the fact that he's wearing the same pants.

Assuming the picture was taken early in the kidnapping, the brand would be much more visible. If a branding occured the burn would probably be raised and be much more visible (because it would have been fairly new).
IF it is a brand it looks like it has already scabed and now has scared over, the "brand" looks flush to the skin (even though it IS hard to tell)

All of the above is based on assuming the picture with the visible brand was taken soon after the initial kidnapping.

For what it's worth here is a website showing old and new brands. I dunno maybe it'll prove usefull. Old / new brandings



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 03:43 PM
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Woah, this is an interesting story, I havent actually heard anything about this until the recent CNN article.



posted on Sep, 8 2006 @ 04:21 AM
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Does anyone know more about Hunter Thompsons involvment in this all ? He seemed to be the anti government not pro govt.

Some of the things alleged in the article about snuff films and such made me sick, i pray thats all fake

Does anyone have more information about all of this? Why would young boys be wanted by Satanists? I'm scared



posted on Sep, 8 2006 @ 05:38 AM
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For some reason, I doubt that they are Satanists. I think this may have come out, to mislead folk into believing that a crackpot cult of Satanists have been kidnapping children in America for years. It would be quite a useful thing to bring up something painful in the past, to strike fear into the hearts of every parent in the United States. Why? For a means of control perhaps? To perhaps using (as Orwell put it) controlled insanity, to keep the public in a state of frenzied fear? If they are Satanists, then it would be quite fitting for Christian Fundies to go "Oh the end! It is nigh! It's the liberals...blah blah that caused this atrocity blah blah 9/11, push further legislation for your protection blah blah." I find this all very suspicious.

The man that accompanied the grown-up Johnny Gosch. Who was he? Why was he not introduced? What does he have to do with the case? Was he a bodyguard? Or was he actually one of, or under the employ of the kidnappers, forcing Gosch to say misleading information to get people further from the truth? Was he a victim? I don't know why people do the things they do, but they do their best to hide it in plain sight.

I've also heard rumours about Hunter S Thompson possessing snuff films, and other stuff like a film including an unnamed U.S. President who enjoys wearing women's clothing. Sadly, no evidence of such things exist, since he apparently croaked it by committing suicide, thereby most of his secrets have gone with him as well. All the films that he is supposed to have apparently have gone missing. Strange how that happens.



posted on Sep, 13 2006 @ 03:03 PM
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Apparently an investigator has come forward - he believes the photos are related to another case and do not depict Gosch.

In fact, what he said was pretty interesting, considering the discussion taking place on this thread (about the gags, the boy being someone other than Gosch, etc.). He recalls that the boys posed for the photo voluntarily, for some reason, and that they refused to say they had been abused.

www.msnbc.msn.com...

He's not real clear, and obviously his memory has fogged a bit with time, but this is an interesting development regardless.

If he's telling the truth, it begs the obvious question - if the photos don't depict Johnny Gosch, why would someone leave them on the doorstep for Johnny's mother? Just mean-spirited abuse, reminding her of her son? Seems very strange...



posted on Sep, 13 2006 @ 03:26 PM
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I just came to the thread to post that story from MSNBC, but WyrdeOne beat me to it.

This story just gets more strange.
If this is someone's idea of a joke, it's just sick to taunt a mother like that.
The story said the pictures were taken into police custody before Johnny Gosch was kidnapped. If that's true, how is it that someone had copies to leave on her doorstep ?

From the link above:

Zalva said his investigation never resulted in an arrest because the children in the photos never admitted that the suspect touched them inappropriately. He said the boys in the photos had voluntarily posed for the photos, but he couldn’t recall why.

“Basically, what happened is someone, maybe it was one of the parents, found the photos and called the sheriff’s office and deputies went out there, impounded the photos and the case was assigned to me for investigation,” Zalva said. “I worked a long time on it, getting the kids identified.”
www.msnbc.msn.com...



posted on Sep, 13 2006 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by anxietydisorder
I just came to the thread to post that story from MSNBC, but WyrdeOne beat me to it.

This story just gets more strange.
If this is someone's idea of a joke, it's just sick to taunt a mother like that.
The story said the pictures were taken into police custody before Johnny Gosch was kidnapped. If that's true, how is it that someone had copies to leave on her doorstep ?


Dude, good point.
If the pictures were before johnny being kidnapped, ok, but this means someone involved had copies of these photos and traveled all that way from Florida to leave them on the doorstep. Maybe the sheriff has the case mixed up, either way, someone has a copy of that photo.



posted on Sep, 13 2006 @ 03:47 PM
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Another story in the Des Moines Register says that several people received the photos and they point out an inconsistency in the mothers report of when she got the pictures.


Gosch's mother and several other people received the photos the last weekend in August, which prompted local and federal authorities to pursue them as a new lead in the long-cold case.

Noreen Gosch told the Des Moines Register shortly afterward that she found copies of the photos on her doorstep the morning of Aug. 27. However, e-mail files of photos that she forwarded to a former New York detective who had been helping her with the case show she had received them by Aug. 26.

National media attention that has ensued since the photos' discovery led to an anonymous tip out of Tampa, Fla., that the images were actually related to an old police investigation there.

Zalva said sheriff's officials were combing today through hundreds of archives in Tampa to find police records tied to the case.

West Des Moines police spokesman Jeff Miller said they were waiting for confirmation from Zalva.
desmoinesregister.com.../20060913/NEWS/60913011/1001/NEWS10



posted on Sep, 13 2006 @ 04:05 PM
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I'm trying to place that symbol. It seems as though I have seen it before, but I went through every book I own looking and haven't. I have a feeling that the symbol could be helpful in us seeing this in a different light. I'm going to keep searching on this aspect, I think it's important. If I find anything, I'll be sure to post it.

What a terrible thing to see, especially with children. I don't know any prostitutes that also worked the streets when underage that have these marks, but I can ask around with that, too. No, I don't hire them out or anything sick and twisted like that, but I do know of some that are now adults.



posted on Sep, 13 2006 @ 04:32 PM
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Okay, here is what I have, along with those that have already run this through editing programs:






It looks to me more like a cross that is falling. What do you all think? I don't see a pentagram, nor do I see the Seal of Solomon. It still seems like through looking at other things I have seen this symbol. If anyone else wants to help look, let me know.



posted on Sep, 13 2006 @ 08:08 PM
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New information - the boy in the picture is apparently not Johnny Gosch:

MSNC: Investigator: Photos not of missing boy

- The photos of bound and gagged boys that were sent to an Iowa woman whose son disappeared 24 years ago were investigated in the late 1970s and are not her missing son, a retired Florida sheriff’s investigator said Wednesday.

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“I remember this case,” he said. “I identified the kids portrayed in the photos. It was definitely investigated by me several years prior to the disappearance of Johnny Gosch.”

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Zalva said his investigation never resulted in an arrest because the children in the photos never admitted that the suspect touched them inappropriately. He said the boys in the photos had voluntarily posed for the photos, but he couldn’t recall why.


So another odd turn in this story.

Has the Johnny Gosch / Jeff Gannon connection ever been further substantiated?

IIRC Gannon denies he is Gosch and has refused to discuss the matter further.



posted on Sep, 13 2006 @ 10:09 PM
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Niteboy, I'll help ya search
Unfortunently I have absolutely no clue on where to start
Even if this isn't Gosch anything info on that "brand" may help.

I found a website that may help, symbol searching wise. symbols





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