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Originally posted by Nerdling
In a country where most of the population wouldn't know the difference between a pedophile and a pediatriciain you'll forgive me for laughing at the call for vigilante justice.
Originally posted by elitegamer23
ok nerdling, lets say your kid, or your little sister was molested and sodomized.
the judge decides the rapist cant survive in prison because he has a low iq and is 4ft7. would you accept a probation of 20 years? or would you destroy this sick freak?
sometimes justice is best in the hands of the people.
The legal concept of insanity is different from the psychiatric concept of mental illness. Frequently, a person whose mental illness is not under dispute will be determined sane as the court will argue that despite a "mental illness" the defendant should still be held responsible; such a ruling is known as either a Guilty but Mentally Ill (GBMI) or a Guilty but Insane verdict. Michigan (1975) was the first state to create a GBMI verdict. Sometimes a person without mental illness can be found to be insane; for example, a person who is acting under the influence of a drug that was involuntarily administered (though voluntary intoxication has been rejected by most jurisdictions as a defence to crime). (See: Intoxication defense)
Originally posted by Nerdling
If they are deemed a threat to the public then they are incarcerated, with examples of mental retardation the patient will be found guilty but insane and will be detained in a mental hospital.
I'm not a qualified Judge nor do I play one on television, it would be nice if some people were to remember that when screaming about sentencing.
Originally posted by elitegamer23
i ask you again, if your child was raped, and the man was given probation because he wouldnt last in prison. what would you do? would you accept the judgement?
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would this case have been noticed by the attorney general , if it wasnt magnified on fox news?
[edit on 30-8-2006 by elitegamer23]
[edit on 30-8-2006 by elitegamer23]
Originally posted by elitegamer23
if this case did affect you, it would change your thinking.
how can our prisons be filled with pot dealers, while child rapist are living on the streets. what harms society more? its a persons choice to buy weed . its not a childs choice to be molested.
im just saying our justice system is messed up, we need extremely harsh penalties for pedophiles or this sick practice will continue.
since our courts think its ok to give our weak sentences , just to let these freaks back onto the streets. then i think its welcome to see someone take justice into their own hands.
if a man rapes an 11 year old boy or girl, should he ever be allowed to leave prison? well it happens all the time.
Originally posted by Nerdling
I know the instinct in any major crime is to give the worst imaginable sentence to the criminal but this is a free society, this is what we signed up for.
Sharia law gives out terrible punishments to those caught doing things such as stealing. This is extremism.
Originally posted by Nerdling
I know cable news would like you to think there are pedophiles on every street but there isn't some epideic of them
Originally posted by Nerdling
Judges are paid to do the job based on their years of legal experience and legal precedent. They exercise their discretion in certain cases and weigh up the factors.
Originally posted by elitegamer23
yes i completely understand there are many people accused wrongly.
what about cases where there is no question. in my town , one of my friends brother was found guilty of having sex with an 11 year old. he was 23 at the time and not only did he admit guilt, he gave the girl several stds.
he was in prison less then 2 years. if we know without a doubt that someone is guilty, the punishment should fit the crime. 2 years for taking advantage of an 11 year old , who didnt know better, is not a just punishment for the crime.
it plagues our courts everywhere in this country. im not exactly calling for murdering the pedophiles. i understand that was extreme, but lets take their liberty away. forever.
we should at least rightly punish the people we KNOW are guilty.
Originally posted by Nerdling
After two years in a maximum security federal prison I dont think any motivation on earth would push me into committing a crime willingly.
Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Originally posted by Nerdling
After two years in a maximum security federal prison I dont think any motivation on earth would push me into committing a crime willingly.
You spent two years in a federal prison?
Originally posted by Nerdling
I'm sure you'll understand that I can't comment on your friends brother's case as I have not seen any case details. But in the end it's up to the judge to decide.
In what context was the child abused? How long did it last? Was the evidence supporting the prosecution really that strong? Was the person in a position of responsibility over the child? How old was the child? Did the child engage initiate contact?
Sentencing is all about variables. That's what some pot dealers get life.
How do you think prisoners on the inside react to people who touch little kids? After two years in a maximum security federal prison I dont think any motivation on earth would push me into committing a crime willingly.