Ahmadinejad VS. Bush: Iran Issues Debate Challenge, page 2
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reply posted on 29-8-2006 @ 09:41 PM by Bhadhidar
Originally posted by djohnsto77
When have two heads-of-state ever publically debated like this on TV? It's a ridiculous offer that breaks all diplomatic protocols. We don't even have any diplomatic relations with Iran!

Of course the usual suspects will use this to make fun of and attack Bush.



I don't think such an event has ever taken place, it is true.

However, that is not say that such a thing Could never occur.

To debate is not the same thing as to negotiate. So even if the US, through the Bush administration, views President Ahmadinejad and the Iranian government as "representatives" of a terrorist nation", they would merely be debating the issues which divide them; no expectation of concessions need be implied.

That said, I perceive a possible ulterior motive in Ahmadinejad's challenge/offer; one that gives me pause to consider what else might be hidden up his agenda.

By all accounts, President Ahmadinejad, along with being a very intelligent man, is also a devoutly religious Muslim. I'm sure he realizes that the paths Iran and the US are heading in could easily lead to armed conflict. Iran, at least in terms of shear military might cannot but see itself at a severe disadvantage should a conflict of arms erupt. By the dictates of Islam, the faith he holds dear, in such a conflict, he would be required to fight the US with every weapon and tactic at his diposal; no quarter would be given to any of the oppressor.

I'm sure many of us have heard of the "warnings" profered in the form of audio and video tapes by another "radical Islamist", Osama bin Laden. As I understand it, OBL was pressured into making these recordings by his spiritual advisors as a way to reconcil the bloody violence of his attacks against the West, with the demands of his faith; the enemy must be warned, and thus given a chance to "repent" before he may be justifiably slaughtered.

Is it possible that the Iranian President, no less a devout Muslim, views this offer, and perhaps the "Secret" letter to President Bush which preceded it, as similar warnings to a potential enemy?

Are these "Unprecedented Acts" Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's way of observing the "Protocols of A Righteous and Holy War"?

In this light, I find it most disturbing (and potentially telling), that President Ahmadinejad insisted upon the condition of No Censorship.

On the surface, such a stipulation might seem to be nothing more than naive posturing; at most, perhaps, a sly dig at the US's honesty.

But I think there is more to it than that. I think, perhaps President Ahmadinejad, compelled by the strictures of his faith, wants to make absolutely certain that, having heard both men detail their positions, that the American public (and perhaps the western world at large) is given the opportunity to make an informed consent with regard to which side they are to be counted amoungst.

Therefore, in Ahmadinejad's mind, fair warning has been given, as required by Allah. The choice is ours to make; the consequences of our choices, ours alone to face.

Iran is thus free to do whatever it must to defend itself, no matter how otherwise heinous such acts might seem. And the populace of the the US, by their consent/support/acquiessence of President Bush and the US military, are thus to be put on notice that they, too, will be considered fair game.


reply posted on 30-8-2006 @ 12:10 AM by Spawwwn
the fact that the US gov did not take on this unprecedented chance for diplomacy is sickening. this is complete trash. this proves this administration has turned this country into nothing more than a joke.

this is disgraceful i dont even know what to say, a country that waves the patriotic flag till you are blue in the face wont follow its own country's policy of diplomacy

im tired of this. this spoon fed garbage has to stop. human beings dont deserve to live in an invisible tyranny. you know i am not a violent person but dang it, i think if there truly was an orgainized plan to democratically and if neccecarily forcelully overthrow the oppression that has now become our government, i would join the resistance fight to reinstate the real constitution and overthrow the people that are doing nothing but lying to us, malnipulating the masses, supressing information, and demorlizing this nation and all the people who died for the persuit of "freedom".

this debate challenge, if accepted, would have been one of the most historic political occurences in history. 2 nations that have a disagreement debating in a fully public forum on the issues that separate them and trying to resolve their differences in a peaceful way. We had the possibilty to start the world of the future in peace.

Instead, bush and the US stoop so low as to label a country that they dont like, a terrorist nation and therefore will not talk with them. pathetic. that is just outright PROPAGANDA. how can a "terrorist" nation want to talk to you in peace? No terrorist nation on earth would ever think about negotiating with anyone about anyething. so i ask, who are the real terroists?

the worst part is, the news wont cover this. you wont see this being talked about on forums openly in the media because the gov will suppress it.

i dont even know how to express my anger about this, real upseting.
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