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Breaking the Silence

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posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 04:47 AM
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Quite a few of the Israelis and pro-Israelis here have attempted to deny what was pretty much already known by most in regards to the abuse and degradtion by soldiers in the IDF to the Palestinian people. I just happened upon this site that is kind of like a confessional for IDF soldiers on some of the things they had doen while serving in Hebron at the checkpoints and throughout the village. There are Videos and pictures there and its quite a site. Although the statements are submitted anonymously and using video manipulation so that the voices are altered and faces blurred it is still nice to know that there are people who still have a conscience.

Examples of abuse are under Video testimony: (there are 3 videos with multiple stories)

Jewish visitors coming from France thinking that going through the Palestinian territories was almost like a safari where they could go through town under the protection of IDF and just ransack the town breaking windows, overturning things, harrassing Palestinians


Purposefully detaining Palestinians for no reason

A Settler girl stoning a father and 2 children just because she hates them

Forcing an innocent Passing Palestinian to lift up an object they believed was an explosive device merely to see if it was in fact explosive

www.breakingthesilence.org.il...

Then you have the Gallery page that contains pictures of stores damaged by settlers

Hate Graffiti

arrested and detained Palestinians forced to sit on street curbs blindfolded and bound , or in IDF stations bound and blindfolded

If you click the first pic you can go through the whole set of 52 pics with the arrows at the top of the pop-up box.
www.breakingthesilence.org.il...


Another part of the site is the Testimonies where the soldiers write in accounts of revenge killings and targetting of children and other stories.

www.breakingthesilence.org.il...


All in all an exciting read. It gives a lot of insight into why there is so much hatred.


Pie




posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 04:55 AM
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Thanks for bringing this to the boards attention TPM. It's appreciated my friend


The things the illegal Jewish settlers get away with is breathtaking. Im sure if any decent American knew what goes on in the illegal territories they would instantly demand their tax dollar never went to support such acts. So that responsibility falls on the shoulders of those who can spread that knowledge on behalf of the oppressed. When the veil of secrecy and media black out eventually lifts, and it will, atleast we will know in ourselves that we helped lift it.



posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 06:20 AM
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Originally posted by subz
Thanks for bringing this to the boards attention TPM. It's appreciated my friend


The things the illegal Jewish settlers get away with is breathtaking. Im sure if any decent American knew what goes on in the illegal territories they would instantly demand their tax dollar never went to support such acts. So that responsibility falls on the shoulders of those who can spread that knowledge on behalf of the oppressed. When the veil of secrecy and media black out eventually lifts, and it will, atleast we will know in ourselves that we helped lift it.


Hi Subz
I would really like to believe that , but there are people who fully support such actions, and as you might have seen the French Jews who went there as tourists, maybe there are even Americans who go there also just to do as those people did, especially since they even get armed soldiers to escort and protect them. Going by todays temperament there are many people who would approve of torturing these people merely because of their religion.


Pie



posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 06:46 AM
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Then im more optimistic. I believe people are, by and large, good natured. Of course there will always be the sadists and perverts who would enjoy engaging in acts of depravity. But looking at people in the entirity, such depravity is not acceptable or even condoned.

What the majority of the Western population suffers from is not a lack of empathy or compassion, its a lack of education and information. There is a reason why the Zionists go to such length to conceal whats going on in the West Bank and Gaza. They know, should it become well known, they're finished. If that was not the case why would they bother hiding these henious crimes against humanity?



posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 01:47 PM
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Mmmm yeah, you would get that when you put two people who hate eachother next to eachother like that...

Am I supposed to feel bad for the Palestinians now and forgive all they have done?

I am not saying I agree Israel has the right to do what they do, they get a taste of that when buses get blown up in their markets, which they should realize that if they where not so mean maybe people wouldn't kill people in markets...

But why should I care about what happens over there anymore.. Palestine does something wrong and it is Israels fault for hurting their feelings, then Israel retaliates which kills innocent people which causes another bus to blow up.. so pointless to argue about it. Let us just agree they are both dirty bastards that cannot behave next to each other.



posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
Mmmm yeah, you would get that when you put two people who hate eachother next to eachother like that...

Am I supposed to feel bad for the Palestinians now and forgive all they have done?



No your not but then do not complain when they do kill the Israelis in retaliation

This is not something that has just started to occur. This type of thing has been going on for decades not just a few years. Israel has always had the upper hand over these people and have used that hand to slap them down every chance they have gotten. You are free to believe what you want. When I hear these testimonies and look at all the reports that palestinians have made in the past it all comes together. Those people didn't just up and abandon their property and families for no reason, they were deliberately forced out through programs of terror and coercion. Israelis like to make it appear as though they just fled the country for no reason but the reasons are right there in front of your face.


Pie



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 12:05 AM
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I should have actually bet money that you where only going to read the first two lines I typed.
Read what I said again please, every word and not select vision.



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
I should have actually bet money that you where only going to read the first two lines I typed.
Read what I said again please, every word and not select vision.


He only sees what he wants to....your wasting your time



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 01:21 AM
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You choose a side, especially emotionally, then you're likely to do stupid things for that side.



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