Get Smart! Epispde 52

Originally posted by 0ivae
In any case, what a strange collection of references in this episode to an event that would take place some 33 years later.

Everything is Controlled.

Are you free?

Originally posted by billybob
... this 41/42 confusion reminds me of the fact that i can never remember which building i'm arguing about.

It all gets very confusing doesn't it. I imagine that it's difficult for just about anyone to keep all of the facts straight.

Of course the mindless masses are cattle anyways and never gave anything much thought; They will be easily chipped (Controlled) and tracked; I for one will fight to the end and they have identified me. 9/11 was never ment to capture thier (Cattle) attention, it was to capture our (Those who question) attention. I think we have perhaps given up our (Those who question) position.

Now is the time to fight for your life.

FYI 41/42 = 97.6 = 3%

Just thought you'd like to know.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by In nothing we trust]

I hadn't seen that before.

I find it intriguing that an Oppenheimer was on the writing staff.

Wow, very intresting I applaud you for the post

Cashlink has an interesting thread that I wanted to link this one to...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I'd like to know if this can be verified.

The the Readers Digest ran a story in about September 1970, which said explosives were to be built into the major buildings at the WTC complex to facilitate their eventual controlled demolition.

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Paul Laffoley a new York artist who was once one of Andy Warhol's proteges, worked for Emory Roth an architectural firm on the WTC project during construction, he has since gone public that there was indeed discussion of doing just that, building demolition charges into the towers!

www.dockersunion.com...

In the video Laffoley mentions the explosives built into the buildings.




[edit on 19-8-2009 by In nothing we trust]

reply to post by In nothing we trust

I have an audio copy of an interview with Laffoley, I think it's the one you linked to earlier, if I can find it I will convert it to a mp3 and upload it. I've been digging through google trying to find a link to the Reader's Digest bit you mentioned, I did find a several of these on google, but so far they all seem to be using the same quote...
www.google.com...
At the bottom of that page there is a link to another forum that says "In the early 1970's the Readers Digest ran a story, that said explosives would be built in to the WTC Towers to facilitate their eventual controlled ..." but oddly there is no cached version and the text google snipped for the search results is now gone from the page it links to.

source
The Readers Digest ran a story during the WTC construction stating explosives would be built into the buildings to facilitate their eventual demolition.

The same quote is found on Pravda...
engforum.pravda.ru...
and on Reddit...
www.reddit.com...

There are several other forums this is mentioned on but I think it is against the TOS here to link to other forums(?), however I am as of yet unable to locate a copy of the original article or an original source for that quote. My grandmother has a pretty extensive collection of Reader's Digests, I will see if I can't dig through them and come up with something.
Unrelated, but it looks like Reader's Digest has recently filed Chapter 11 bankruptcy as well.

Countering all this is that explosives, like any chemical compound, will denature over time. They will either lose their energy release potential, or in rare circumstances actually can be ignited by elements in the atmosphere.

Add to that controlled demolitions are done by sequenced explosions at the base of a building. None of the characteristics of CD were seen nor the very obvious loud booms, residues found, anything.

People like Steven Jones have been trying to push this theory with tests on red oxide primer found in the debris claiming it was some form of thermite. This has been thoroughly debunked on a number of levels. For one, a millimeter thin layer of anything reactive on steel beams would do little more than warm the steel for a few seconds.

There are still a lot of questions that have to be answered by the US government and its agencies. But it is very clear now how those buildings collapsed with the extreme temperatures and loss of structural integrity.

I think this emphasis on CD has become a deflection from the important issues that need to be addressed. A sort of conspiracy within a conspiracy.

Mike

Originally posted by In nothing we trust
I'd like to know if this can be verified.

The the Readers Digest ran a story in about September 1970, which said explosives were to be built into the major buildings at the WTC complex to facilitate their eventual controlled demolition.

[edit on 19-8-2009 by In nothing we trust]

If this was verified - which I doubt it will be - then Jones' findings wouldn't be evidence for a conrolled demolition or indeed any form of conspiracy.

In nothing we trust, I just wanted to say thanks for posting the Laffoley stuff again. I'll be the first to admit that this thread is largely conjecture without it.

Originally posted by twitchy
In nothing we trust, I just wanted to say thanks for posting the Laffoley stuff again. I'll be the first to admit that this thread is largely conjecture without it.

Betcha didn't know this. Or maybe you did?

Nelson Rockefeller headed up the Rockefeller Commission (which was created in response to a 1974 New York times [Known liberal paper] article about MK Ultra, domestic surveillance of US government dissidents and CIA involvement in the Kennnedy assassination) in 1975 to re-investigate the assassination of President Kennedy.

No CIA involvement was found.

Ref: en.wikipedia.org...

In 1955 Nelson Rockefeller was one of the principles involved in the creation of NSC 5412/2

The NSC 5412/2 Special Group, often referred simply as the Special Group, was an initially secret, but later public, subcommittee of the United States National Security Council responsible for coordinating government covert operations.

After dedicating himself to various philanthropic activities, including taking a lead role in the running of the MoMA, Rockefeller became Special Assistant to President Dwight Eisenhower for Foreign Affairs (1954-55) before being appointed head of the Operations Coordinating Board (OCB) – committee of the National Security Council in charge, among others, of supervising secret CIA operations. Working with the CIA was nothing new to Rockefeller; after becoming the Health, Education and Welfare Assistant Secretary, he had been required to organise a colloquium addressing the CIA on the role of the Agency in a different economic world. In March 1955, together with Budget Director Rowland Hughes, he introduced a proposition for the creation of a high-level committee (Planning Coordination Group) that would be in charge of helping develop schedules for the CIA's covert operations.[citation needed]

In 1956, he created the Special Studies Project, a major seven-panel planning group directed by Henry Kissinger and funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, of which he was the then-president. It was an ambitious study created to define the central problems and opportunities facing the U.S. in the future, and to clarify national purposes and objectives; outcomes were finally published in 1961 as Prospect for America: The Rockefeller Panel Reports.

en.wikipedia.org...
en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 7-10-2009 by In nothing we trust]

Originally posted by mmiichael
None of the characteristics of CD were seen...

Meanwhile in the real world...

In Nothing We Trust, I knew that Nelson Rockefeller had worked with the National Security Council but their supervision of CIA operations, to the extent of calling it the 'Planning Coordination Group' was new to me thanks again for posting.
If you're new to the thread, the reason this post of In Nothing We Trust's is interesting is because Nelson Rockefeller and company were the ones that pushed the construction of the WTC complex to begin with. Throw Kissinger and god knows who else in the mix and a false flag operation is business as usual for these guys, and long term globalist agendas are their modus operandi.
Interesting that he worked with Eisenhower so closely, Eisenhower probably had a good idea of what was happening and who he was dealing with, something I think he regretted towards the end and he tried to warn us on his way out of office... Too bad we didn't listen then.

Eisenhower's Famous Speech

To repeat. If the Readers Digest story about explosives "built into the towers" was found to be true, it would be evidence AGAINST the conspiracy theory of CD and government involvement. So I'd be careful about trying to prove it.

reply to post by TrickoftheShade


why? we are only in interested in the truth.
if the explosives were built into the tower, then the "conspiracy" would be, "why did they not just say that?". "why the cover-up?".

reply to post by In nothing we trust


i love that guy.
he bought me lunch.
he can talk for hours, and i've heard him tell the twin tales testimony many times, twice in person, and the story never changes one iota.

Originally posted by billybob
reply to post by TrickoftheShade

 

why? we are only in interested in the truth.
if the explosives were built into the tower, then the "conspiracy" would be, "why did they not just say that?". "why the cover-up?".

For obvious reasons. If the story is true and explosives were planted during the building to expedite the towers' eventual destruction (which isn't necessarily what Laffoley appears to be saying anyway) then it's impossible that the modern conspirators demolished the buildings through controlled demolition.

I suppose it's possible that they knew about the explosives and chose the towers as targets anyway, but in that case the explosives don't go any way to proving or disproving the conspiracy narrative - they are useless as evidence for your case. And given that CD is a major plank of 9/11 "truth" I'd want to make sure it supports your story. If I were you.

reply to post by TrickoftheShade


debbie leaps of logic are astounding.

the bin laden construction company was cited as being the ones who wanted to know where to plant explosives.
the bin ladens and the bushes are business partners.
sibel edmonds has testified that bin laden was a CIA asset right up to sept. 11th.
rockefeller is the guy who says openly that the plan is to chip every human on earth, and the twin towers were built by the rockefellers. "nelson" and "david" they nick named them.
it is absolutely ridiculous to think that these people are not capable of executing this plan. just because the charges MAY have been planted in the late sixties/early seventies, does NOT mean that the current crop of BLOODLINE have no access to the information and plans of their EVIL forefathers.

etc. etc.

there is way too much true information for the lie to stand, anymore.

trying to argue the big picture into little niggling bits is only going to delay the inevitable.

the CIA and their controllers and associates are responsible for MOST of the woes of the western world, and a good deal of the woes of the rest of it.
there are no "patriots" in the CIA. only self serving evil sneaky people. as "jesus" said, "you will know the tree by it's fruit".
this is becoming well known, and someday, the proverbial will hit the fan.
i hope to see it, even though, it could mean millions die in the ensuing battles, as the brainwashed clash against the awakened.
at least people will be REALLY living again, instead of slowly wasting away in front of mind controlling cathode ray tubes and LCDs.
hopefully, it will be more like a lynching, with all the conspirators swinging from telephone poles, and few innocents dying. "they" have killed enough innocents.

reply to post by twitchy


This is an amazing piece of work you've done here my man.
I loved this show whenI was a kid .
I'm just a little bit older than that show.
I was about to correct you and say it aired on CBS,
didn't rememjber switching from NBC until I checked myself.
Believe it or not now I do remember when it switched.
There's been a 7.8 er I got go.S&F

None Dare Call it Conspiracy

The plan of the international bankers to create a world socialist super-state

-- by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham, 1971 source: Reactor Core

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Title: Thirty Seconds Over New York
Author: Robert Buchard
Publisher: Belmont Tower Books
Year of Publication: 1970
Cover Artist: Unknown

"It had long been realized that the only secure basis for oligarchy is collectivism. Wealth and privilege are most easily defended when they are possessed jointly. The so-called 'abolition of private property' meant in effect the concentration of property in far fewer hands than before..." -- George Orwell, "1984"

- War is Peace (War for the masses = Peace for the elite)
- Freedom is Slavery (Slavery for the masses = Freedom for the elite)
- Ignorance is Strength (Ignorance for the masses = Strength for the elite)

- To end the war, we must end the slavery.
- To end the slavery, we must end the ignorance.

I strongly suggest that you watch 1984

Google Video Link

None Dare Call it Conspiracy

The establishing of the Federal Reserve System provided the "conspiracy" with an instrument whereby the international bankers could run the national debt up to the sky, thereby collecting enormous amounts of interest and also gaining control over the borrower.

The most important American of those "different personages" who run the world from behind the scenes are the Rockefellers. The Rockefeller clan reportedly has worked with the Rothschilds and their agents since the 1880's when the original John D. arranged to get a rebate on every barrel of oil he and his competitors shipped over Kuhn, Loeb & Co.-controlled Pennsylvania and Baltimore & Ohio railroads. It has been a profitable partnership ever since, although there appear to have been areas in which the two financial dynasties competed.

The involvement of the Rockefellers with their supposed blood enemies, the Communists, dates back to the Bolshevik Revolution. During the 1920's Lenin established his New Economic Policy (the same name Mr. Nixon applied to his wage-price control package), when the supposedly hated capitalists were invited back into Russia.

Wherever Standard Oil would go, Chase National Bank was sure to follow. (The Rockefeller's Chase Bank was later merged with the Warburg's Manhattan Bank to form the present Chase Manhattan Bank.) In order to rescue the Bolsheviks, who were supposedly an archenemy, the Chase National Bank was instrumental in establishing the American-Russian Chamber of Commerce in 1922.

For fifty years the Federal Reserve / CFR / Rockefeller / Insider crowd has advocated and carried out policies aimed at increasing the power of their satellite, the Soviet Union. Meanwhile, America spends $75 billion a year on defense to protect itself from the enemy the Insiders are building up.

What has been true of the past is even more valid today. The leader in promoting the transfer of technology and increasing aid and trade with the Communists is the Council on Foreign Relations.

Ref: www.modernhistoryproject.org...

[edit on 16-2-2010 by In nothing we trust]