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Israel I am Sorry

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posted on Aug, 28 2006 @ 04:40 PM
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It is not mysterious; it is not confusing, it is simply sad. Hate. Unrepentant, unjustifiable and uncontrollable hatred towards a people and their ideals.

So controlling and absolute that the abominator defends violent acts committed against these people. So blinding that cultures committed to the destruction of their way of life are applauded and encouraged. A hatred that is slowly and surely annihilating our very way of life, as we soon will bow to the masters of those that hate.

What about her supporters? Shouted down, drowned out in the thunderous defense of those that murder children that murder women and refuse to face their enemy. Cowards and criminals that hide behind the weak and frail, stay in the shadows and run scurrying when the light of honor and truth is turned on.

How very clever they are, no way to fight them except going through the innocents they cower behind. When that happens, again the out cry in defense of these terrorist, these cowards goes up and drowns out reason and inflates the hypocritical, mind numbing rhetoric spouted by supporters of these criminals.

Israel, oh Israel, you have come to exist in the midst of your enemies, of animals that have no regard for life; neither yours nor theirs. You have prospered amidst homicide bombs, terrorist attacks and anti-Semitism that holds the world in sway. You are not here to defend yourself, and we do little enough, for you are attacked here as well. Many are in the internet community that strike at you, for what? Being Jewish? Protecting yourself? I have no answer. They accuse you of being set to launch nuclear weapons and encourage your enemies to develop them. Though you have had them for years, now all of a sudden you are a threat. No Israel, it is the Masters of the haters, they spread the lies and suppositions that give rise to, yes, more hatred.

Israel, there are some that still stand with you, some that have not fallen under the spell of the Masters hatred. A few that battle with you. Most of us have been there, have seen with our own eyes the terrible acts committed in the name of a God filled with hate. It is the ones that have lived no life, Israel; they know nothing except the hate their Masters give to them.

Forgive us Israel.

Semper




posted on Aug, 31 2006 @ 08:17 PM
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Why the hell would anyone who loves America want Israeli forgiveness? if anything they need to apologize to us for manipulating our foreign policy for their benefit and using us as their instrument in international policy.

Oh yeah, and that USS Liberty thing.

Id never apologize to Israel, not after the problems she has caused America.

Add to that that critics of Israel are shouted down by Pro-Zionists as being anti-Semetic, even though many critics of Israel are Jewish themselves.

I wanna see Israel apologize to America for a change.



posted on Aug, 31 2006 @ 08:29 PM
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semperfortis come on man there been evidence that cause warcrimes and use us the Unite State of America for there unjust need. Even Israelis want this to stop I just talk to one. He feel that no one talk about the need to over thowre there corrupe goverment.



posted on Aug, 31 2006 @ 08:37 PM
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Most of us have been there, have seen with our own eyes the terrible acts committed in the name of a God filled with hate.


Which God is filled with hate?



posted on Aug, 31 2006 @ 08:38 PM
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semperfortis

You have some issue my friend.

Israel needs no pity from anybody, they are very well capable and well taken care off to be able to defend their country if an attack on their nation ever happen.

But what they don't have is the right to initiate an attack on another nation because they feel that they could.

Is no reason for appologies.

The will never have my sympathies either if they get attack for starting a war.



[edit on 31-8-2006 by marg6043]



posted on Aug, 31 2006 @ 09:35 PM
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Oh PLEAZZZZE,

As if, why don't we just let Israel be Capital and cheif in command to the World too.
Craziness



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 02:54 PM
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Israel, oh Israel, you have come to exist in the midst of your enemies, of animals that have no regard for life; neither yours nor theirs.


Oh please. Unless you were born there and live that life, you shouldn't be making such judgements. I assure you that if the USA were being occupied and people were dying, getting imprisoned, getting their land taken it would be the exact same thing. The animal comes out in all of us in the most desperate of times.

If you lived the kind of life those people do you cannot say that YOU wouldn't be strapping a bomb to your chest and heading to an Israeli cafe. Get a little perspective!

As for Israel, they weren't fully driven from Lebannon in 2000. They still occupy parts of Lebannon so they are a victim of their own policies.



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by semperfortis
It is not mysterious; it is not confusing, it is simply sad. Hate. Unrepentant, unjustifiable and uncontrollable hatred towards a people and their ideals.





What about her supporters? Shouted down, drowned out in the thunderous defense of those that murder children that murder women and refuse to face their enemy. Cowards and criminals that hide behind the weak and frail, stay in the shadows and run scurrying when the light of honor and truth is turned on.
Where have you been...last time I check anyone who speaks up against them are "slamed down, drown out in the thunderous defense..."



Israel, oh Israel, you have come to exist in the midst of your enemies, of animals that have no regard for life;


So all of the Arab countries that surround Israel are full of animals. Thats quite a racist, ignorant statement, one of which many Israeli leaders seem to share.



Many are in the internet community that strike at you, for what? Being Jewish? Protecting yourself? I have no answer.
Thats what the internet is for..Free Speech. Its not like there aren't anti-everything else sites on the net.



They accuse you of being set to launch nuclear weapons and encourage your enemies to develop them.





Though you have had them for years, now all of a sudden you are a threat. No Israel, it is the Masters of the haters, they spread the lies and suppositions that give rise to, yes, more hatred.
Again




Israel, there are some that still stand with you, some that have not fallen under the spell of the Masters hatred.
And who is this Master??



Forgive us Israel.

For what? Is the US not giving them enough $$?

[edit on 9/7/2006 by pstiffy]



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 03:39 PM
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The fact that this transparent thread was started in Slugfest is a direct indicator of the OP's goal.

Ah well, whatever you get out of ATS is cool, Semper, as long as you're having fun.



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Why the hell would anyone who loves America want Israeli forgiveness? if anything they need to apologize to us for manipulating our foreign policy for their benefit and using us as their instrument in international policy.

Oh yeah, and that USS Liberty thing.

Id never apologize to Israel, not after the problems she has caused America.

Add to that that critics of Israel are shouted down by Pro-Zionists as being anti-Semetic, even though many critics of Israel are Jewish themselves.

I wanna see Israel apologize to America for a change.


I'm with Skadi on this one. Israel owes the US and not the other way around. Besides rich Americans don't pay tax but their money goes directly to prop up Israel on top of it all. This is one big scam from start to finish and I think it is soon coming to an end.



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 04:01 PM
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Trolling in Camouflage


I'm not how you can equate the "starting" of a thread with trolling.

Is the expression of an opinion, any opinion, even one opposed to everyone else's beliefs, trolling?
Because my beliefs differ from you, that makes me a troll?

I have not personally asked anyone to respond. The simple reason this is in this forum is I had no idea where to post what I was feeling at the time.

You "are" a MOD. feel free to move it where ever it is appropriate. If you do move it, I promise not to "label" you before talking to you first.

Semper



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 04:09 PM
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Here's a kleenex OP. There...there...now...don't cry. Ugh!



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 04:09 PM
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Double posted.

[edit on 7-9-2006 by SkyWay]



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 04:12 PM
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Not sure what a Kleenex OP is, but I'll take your word for it.

Also not sure of the intent, intellectual of otherwise, but again, I'm sure "you" know what you meant.

Semper

[edit on 9/7/2006 by semperfortis]



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by semperfortis
Not sure what a Kleenex OP is, but I'll take your word for it.
Semper
[edit on 9/7/2006 by semperfortis]


Must get very messy when you get a cold if you don't know what a kleenex is. Very unsanitary! UGH!!



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 04:18 PM
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[edit on 7-9-2006 by SkyWay]



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 08:11 PM
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OMG Not another quality PO/Semperfortis thread....


Sorry but you seem to specialise in posting inflammatory threads designed to get members' backs up while you disappear into the background.. Is it just for the points?? prove me wrong on this one please..

You dare to apologise TO Israel??

Why? because they couldn,t get their act together enough to employ their ''superior'' secret service to combat no more than 500 terrorists?

Why? because their military wasn,t skilled enough to out perform a band of ''amateurs'' with inferior equipment?

Why? because they refused to conform to numerous UN regulations when the terrorists offered to?

Do you work for the government?
Is it your purpose to constantly report pseudo ''news'' on ATS?
Do you feel that Israel condemned itself so much on these hideous attacks on civillians that they NEED apologies from the US..

If so I suggest you maybe take a trip there after one of their attacks..

I recall them cleaning up after one of the Hezbollah attacks so efficiently that less than a day later there was no visible signs of an attack..

Do you think that the lebanese people could perform such a task as efficiently in the face of the mass destruction it received????

Once again I have to suggest to these ignorant people...

Get a freakin passport and try visiting these places PERSONALLY




posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 08:59 PM
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They sound like those funny religous spam mail I get every so often.. the "stand with Israel now!" or "Now is the chance to stand with gods people, don't let them suffer alone!"

Anyone else think that.. or is that just me? If you did actually write that, well good job on the writing, bit off on the facts.

First off, Allah and Yaweh and God are all the same god. He had a bit of an identity crisis around oh say 1ad and decided to be the new testament god, tierd of being the revengful, all powerful thy shall smite you if you don't kill chilren! god and decided to be the peace and loving and il forgive anyone god! then, apparently bored of christians as they where not exciting enough, went to Mahamad and said, hey, I am changing my image so spread the word! and he became Allah who now forgives AND offers virgins upon suicide. He thought the bit about virgins would turn heads. Maybe catholics should say virgins await them if they eat jesus bread. (I am Catholic so I can call it Jesus bread! or crackers, or Jesus crisps.. whatever all the same) I figure sometime in the next century the newer testiment will be written and god will be someone new, maybe a vengful god, maybe a loving god, maybe a god who simply won't be there this time.. he hasnt decided yet as people are still confused on his current split personality. Or maybe religion and gods are products of civilization and over active human imaginiation for the need to have someone watching over them so that our simple minds have something to fear so we do not slip to anarchy an complete total chaos with no adverse effects.

But anyways, aside from that rant which was completly off topic but fun to write anyways..

Israel has been no saint, that was my point



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 10:20 PM
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Agent T

I have been there, twice. Have you?

Semper



posted on Sep, 7 2006 @ 10:40 PM
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Israel should apologize to the US for taking their trust(as in high tech military equipment)and then stabbing us in the back(selling it to China). We are the only ones Israel needs to apologize to because we are the only nation that has had Israel's back from day one. At first the Brits and French were their too but when the arabs tightened the oil supply and they drifted away. However no matter how addicted to oil we are we've always had Israel's back.

As far as Lebanon its what they deserve for treating a terrorist organization like Hezbullah as a legitimate political party.



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