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Topic started on 27-8-2006 @ 08:07 PM by the_sentinal
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After a coerced conversion to Islam, and a two week long ordeal for the missing journalist's, the kidnapping of the reporter and cameraman have come
to an end, with the release of the two, much to the relief of family members who made plea's for their safe release days earlier.
english.ohmynews.com
Two Fox News journalists kidnapped in Gaza City were freed after nearly two weeks in captivity.
American reporter Steve Centanni, 60, and cameraman Olaf Wiig, 35, were released at Gaza City's Beach Hotel Sunday, where they were rushed upstairs
before appearing later at the hotel with Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh and Wiig's wife, former BBC presenter Anita McNaught, who had made
several public appeals for the pair's release, including to Prime Minister Haniyeh himself in person.
A video released earlier showed the two making various pronouncement including an apparent statement of conversion by Centanni to Islam. He explained
after his release that he felt coerced into making the statements, as his captors wielded firearms.
A previously unknown group calling itself the "Holy Jihad Brigades" had claimed responsibility for the kidnapping, but senior Palestinian security
officials said the name was merely a front for local militants whose identities were known to Palestinian authorities. The group had demanded the
release of unspecified Muslim prisoners within 72 hours, a demand the U.S. officially rejected. The deadline passed before news of the release became
available.
Please visit the link provided for the complete story.
After a tense two week period the kidnapping ends in a forced conversion to Islam, just what the kidnappers accomplished through this flamboyant
incident remains to be seen. The question of how the opponents of radical Islam will use this incident also is up in the air, those who claim Isalm is
a peaceful religion have a tougher defence of their position after this.
Related News Links:
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sfgate.com
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 08:22 PM by dgtempe
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I dont believe anyone can be converted just *like that*
If this is true, i'm sure they went thru the motions to save themselves, and nothing more. What on earth would be the purpose of this? Who
benefits? This is absurd.
I think its just a steaming pile.
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 08:23 PM by djohnsto77
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I don't think they really converted, they just agreed with whatever the guys that had the guns said. 
Anyway, certainly not a hallmark of a peaceful religion.
edit:
dg, there's a tape of the so called conversion.
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 08:32 PM by RedGolem
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Originally posted by dgtempe
I dont believe anyone can be converted just *like that*
Well it seems there captors thought so. And more to the point this shows, at least, what that terrorist groop wants. It is not the first time in
history things like this have happened. It is really sad, that with all we have acomplished there are still people that want to live in the dark
ages.
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 08:39 PM by Jamuhn
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
I don't think they really converted, they just agreed with whatever the guys that had the guns said.
Anyway, certainly not a hallmark of a peaceful religion.
Neither is the Lord's Resistance Army, but then again, people should be able to
differentiate between crazy fringe groups and the main body of religion. By the way, Islam means "submission" not "peace." Muslims don't turn
the other cheek when oppressed, they fight against injustice. And as noble as that may sound, it's easy to see how fringe groups can get confused
and go to the extreme. It happens with all religions...christianity, jewish, hindus, etc.
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 08:52 PM by Double Helix
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Originally posted by Jamuhn
By the way, Islam means "submission" not "peace."
You will be assimilated -- resistance is futile...
You will learn to love and practice my peaceful religion -- or else !!!
HA!
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 09:03 PM by Jamuhn
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Originally posted by Double Helix
Originally posted by Jamuhn
By the way, Islam means "submission" not "peace."
You will be assimilated -- resistance is futile...
As in submission to the will of Allah. You would be familiar with that concept if you are familiar with any form of deism.
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 09:23 PM by the_sentinal
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What if the Christians and Jews started forcing people at gun point to convert to their religion??
we would have a world wide mess!!!
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 09:42 PM by DYepes
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sentineal, the Christians already did that. I mean, what exactly did you think happen when the Europeans discovered this side of the world? Not to
mention the things that went on in Africa. Yes indeed, Christianity has had an unfortunate past in the field of "missionary work".
At least the journalist is free at last, and safe.
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 09:57 PM by the_sentinal
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Can you really force someone to believe something, I mean does the fact that your staring down the barrel of an automatic weapon have the ability to
change the way you view things?? Being put in that position might possibly change your thinking..........
I guess if steve centanni starts wearing a turbin we'll know that his conversion was real.
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 10:21 PM by dgtempe
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I dont believe it can be done. Someone could be sticking me with electrified wires while telling me "Allah is great" and i would be saying whatever
the heck they wanted me to say under the worse conditions just to get out of the mess. Those two reporters dont strike me as weaklings. I feel badly
they were submitted to that, they probably thought they were going to die...But they didnt and they are free and i'm sure they will recover from the
trauma. I'm sure my will isnt any stronger than theirs.
If i think my life is in danger, i will play along and do as i'm told (I hope) that's the only way to stay alive. This is what they did.
There's something "fishy" about this story, anyway. I dont get what benefit this kidnapping group would get by converting two westeners....Maybe
i'm missing something here.... 
Who benefits???
The Jihadists?
I have my suspicions about this abduction. 
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 10:36 PM by War_Monger
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Originally posted by the_sentinal
The question of how the opponents of radical Islam will use this incident also is up in the air, those who claim Isalm is a peaceful religion have a
tougher defence of their position after this.
Sentinal
Islam is not a peaceful religion. It never was and it never will be. Anyone who can't see this has never read the koran. I started reading it back
in 1998 at the advise of a friend of mine who has degrees in history and religion. He is an older man and he is very well educated. I took his
advice and read the koran and I was shocked at the intolerance, hate, contradiction and down right evil contained in the book. He told me that he
believed horrible things were going to happen at the hand of those people and he was right. Everything that is seen in recent headlines is done
because the koran commands them to do it.
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 10:38 PM by djohnsto77
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Originally posted by the_sentinal
I guess if steve centanni starts wearing a turbin we'll know that his conversion was real.
Kinda shoddy PS work, but I just couldn't resist!
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 10:48 PM by the_sentinal
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Originally posted by djohnsto77
Originally posted by the_sentinal
I guess if steve centanni starts wearing a turbin we'll know that his conversion was real.
Kinda shoddy PS work, but I just couldn't resist!
Dude, you gotta fix that picture so we can see it ........
I gotta see that one 
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 11:01 PM by dgtempe
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OK
I'll choke if i dont say this.
Does anyone think this may have been some kind of government operated broohaha like i do??? It just doesnt sound like the MO of these jihadists to be
playing "Lets convert these westeners into Muslims" kind of stuff to me.
AND who benefits from WHAT?
The only benefit i see here is just a two-week disruption and fill ins between the packages left at Miami International, or the end of the world stuff
and the boogeyman loose all over the world.
Is anyone else confused??
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 11:08 PM by XphilesPhan
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Originally posted by DYepes
sentineal, the Christians already did that. I mean, what exactly did you think happen when the Europeans discovered this side of the world? Not to
mention the things that went on in Africa. Yes indeed, Christianity has had an unfortunate past in the field of "missionary work".
and so did the muslims the only difference is we no longer practice what is known as "conversion by the sword" and I have said it a MILLION
FRIGGIN TIMES in countless threads and it finally takes an event like this to prove me right.
Muslims STILL convert "by the sword" THUS they are RADICAL!
I will also say this, that there are people out there that would rather convert to Islam and appease these terrorists than use any moral standing or
free will of their own. (please note I am NOT reffering to the "conversion" of these men in captivity that is a completely understandable situation)
I am willing to predict a group of people and I wont say who, will suddenly anounce their conversion to Islam in the hopes of ending the terrorism.
bet on it!
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 11:10 PM by XphilesPhan
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Originally posted by War_Monger
Islam is not a peaceful religion. It never was and it never will be. Anyone who can't see this has never read the koran. I started reading it back
in 1998 at the advise of a friend of mine who has degrees in history and religion. He is an older man and he is very well educated. I took his
advice and read the koran and I was shocked at the intolerance, hate, contradiction and down right evil contained in the book. He told me that he
believed horrible things were going to happen at the hand of those people and he was right. Everything that is seen in recent headlines is done
because the koran commands them to do it.
were you aware that muslims themselves believe that Satan himself sneaked passages into the Koran, but of course, were later corrected?
I think they need to correct the entire book
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 11:11 PM by Jamuhn
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Originally posted by War_MongerAnyone who can't see this has never read the koran. I started reading it back in 1998 at the advise of
a friend of mine who has degrees in history and religion.
Do you have any examples from the Qur'an? Because frankly I think you are lying.
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reply posted on 27-8-2006 @ 11:12 PM by the_sentinal
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Originally posted by dgtempe
OK
I'll choke if i dont say this.
Does anyone think this may have been some kind of government operated broohaha like i do??? It just doesnt sound like the MO of these jihadists to be
playing "Lets convert these westeners into Muslims" kind of stuff to me.
AND who benefits from WHAT?
The only benefit i see here is just a two-week disruption and fill ins between the packages left at Miami International, or the end of the world stuff
and the boogeyman loose all over the world.
Is anyone else confused??
The group responsible was not previously know by anyone nor did it have any ties to any known militant group so I would say that yea, the possibility
does have some merit coupled with the facts. very fishy<><
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reply posted on 28-8-2006 @ 02:38 AM by firebat
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Originally posted by the_sentinal
The group responsible was not previously know by anyone nor did it have any ties to any known militant group so I would say that yea, the possibility
does have some merit coupled with the facts. very fishy<><
I think I read somewhere in an article, I forget where, that this particular group might've been formed specifically for this operation.
Fishy indeed....
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