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Are there Russian Agents on ATS?

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posted on Aug, 26 2006 @ 08:00 PM
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This is a real military and security issue. If there are Russian Agents on ATS, do they work for Russia only, or for Russia and the USA? As we know, the Russian nuclear weapon count is scary!!!

May the USA and Russia become mutual best friends for eternity!!!




posted on Aug, 27 2006 @ 02:42 AM
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Well...
There are really two ways to consider the facts.

On the one hand, there is relatively little to be gained simply through a presence on ATS, or even online in a broader sense. I'm sure that some degree of propagandizing does take place with the sponsorship of nations or at least political parties within certain nations, but I really doubt that Russian intelligence has its eyes on us all that much. So in that sense I'd say mostly no.

On the other hand, if I were from somewhere other than Western Europe or the USA and had ambitions in international business, politics, diplomacy, intelligence, or a host of other things, I would probably want to use the internet to better acquaint myself both with the language and the people. So in that sense, I'm sure we attract members, either inside or outside the intelligence community, who are sympathetic to a foreign government/party which may not see eye to eye with America.

I welcome them though. Come one, come all. If you hate America, if you're a Chinese Communist, if you're a radical Muslim, if you're a card carrying member of the Ku Klux Klan, whatever... come on to ATS. What could it hurt? I'm not going to become a radical of any stripe just because they show up on ATS, they won't be able to find verifiable intelligence here, but if we're lucky they'll encounter ideas here that mellow them out.



posted on Aug, 27 2006 @ 04:03 AM
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I've noticed the exchange of coded information. But this is standard fare for the Internet.
If you follow what seem to be intentional mis-spells, you can see a pattern. Some of the time.



posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by GreatTech
This is a real military and security issue. If there are Russian Agents on ATS, do they work for Russia only, or for Russia and the USA? As we know, the Russian nuclear weapon count is scary!!!


Well, you gotta ask yourself, is there anything on ATS that foriegn agents could not find elsewhere on the internet?
At least in the Aviation section there may be a few people who get news before it hits the mainstream, but is there actual information forthcoming from these people of a classified nature?
Probably not, and if there is one has to ask, is it misinformation (gv't sponsored or private sector hoax) or is it real?


"If there are Russian Agents on ATS"

Maybe, but they are probably here out of enjoyment just like the US military intelligence and one or two CIA personnel that frequent this site.



posted on Aug, 29 2006 @ 06:46 PM
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If there were Russian agents on here then why would they make themselves known? Me thinks this post is a lost cause



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 01:08 AM
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a_buck_fifty, do you not think that Russian agents can unknowingly make themselves known? Do you not think that agents of any country can unknowingly make themselves known to any country?

All human wisdom, knowledge, and information to everybody!!!

God Bless the USA and the World!!!



posted on Aug, 30 2006 @ 06:00 AM
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Dunno about Russian secret service being here, would assume so. Seems to me, we can be be far more assured the NSA and/or OSI are most definitely here.

Dallas



posted on Aug, 31 2006 @ 12:33 AM
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After reading various articles, opinions and blogs by people im convinced majority of this site has interests in governemnt affiliates somewhere along the lines.

Mainly the US..

Its obvious in some posts that people dont care about your reasoning, or opinion.
And that the official line is correct, regardless of what evidence is shown.

ATS Credibility has been shot in the foot a fair few times by snr members of this site flat out disregarding peoples posts, simply because they are ' tulip walkers '
'bush haters' or 'anit - us/bush '

Too many senior members and mods try to push a certain view onto this website, and quickly discredit those people that dont.

I like the way peoples Reputation, peoples character is attacked more times than not when they have a very valid point no one can explain away with the white washed 'official' version.

If this was an open forum, there's no need to have a really above top secret section.

If mods were talking about the technicality of this site or its operations, they would use a MOD forum hidden to the public, or even the U2U method.
Being sections are cut off raises question marks in my mind.

Especially when there's important topics the 'general' public cant go too.

The recent online games just make me more suspicous, especially when you have to populate foreign sites with 'links' to ATS.

to circumvent search engines to ensure the ATS version is the first displayed, or perhaps outside opiniosn of ATS are lost in the garbage.

I love this site, I love posting my opinion. But I feel the ATS crew are making it a populus where the average joe with an intellegence high enough to believe his own virtues isnt able to express freely his idea of 'what really happened' without out being shot down, banned, ignored or ridiculed.

911 is a perfect example.
Everyone on the planet knows full well any evidence convincing the world that the offical story is ' false ' has properly been disposed of, hidden and ensure security.
Yet to many people on this site, jam down your through the 'offical' story because u cannot provide evidence of your thoughts.

Thye disregard everything, because the proof the government has supplied is proof enough. Your proof that there are too many inconsistancies in the offical story isnt proof, its all make believe.

Until you provide the proof, the 911 official story is just that. ' official '

I believe ATS to be a significant part of the coo that is happening to the western world. convince the masses just enough, and you will have high enough percentage to do what you please. The hard part is getting them on board.
What better way to do it, than using the only ' free ' source of information and propganda left.

Why dont I ever see threads about ATS, and the conspiracy about it being COINTELPRO.



posted on Aug, 31 2006 @ 12:57 AM
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What percent of Russians have computers? What percent of Russians can read English? What percent of Russian parents teach their children English first? What percent of Russian computers convert English or other languages to Russian? What percent of Russians believe that Americans only want peace with Russians and those of other nationalities?



posted on Aug, 31 2006 @ 01:03 AM
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What percentage of britans can read russian? what percentage of english parents teach there kids russian first? what percentage of english computers convert russian to other languages?

yet the english still found it nessecary to use spying techniques on russia lately.



posted on Aug, 31 2006 @ 03:34 AM
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Agit8dChop, what is the magnitude of Russian computers? How does this affect Nuclear War Prevention Security?



posted on Sep, 1 2006 @ 07:12 PM
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Originally posted by GreatTech
What percent of Russians have computers? What percent of Russians can read English? What percent of Russian parents teach their children English first? What percent of Russian computers convert English or other languages to Russian? What percent of Russians believe that Americans only want peace with Russians and those of other nationalities?


While the percentage of the Russian population that OWN computers with internet is low, the percentage of Russians in Russia who have access to the internet is high. Internet caffes, libraries, educational facilities, etc. offer internet access. Out of the people that have access to internet one way or another, probably all know some english, and a majority can interpret most of the english they read. English is taugh everywhere, and if you graduated from school in Russia you can hold a basic conversation in English; if you graduated from college chances are your english is fair.

About the way Russians view US- its pretty much similar to most of Europe. Most people admire the economic freedom and prosperity, and feel limited animosity towards American foreign policy- mostly where it directly concerns them (especially in relation to the staged revolutions in Ukraine and Georgia). Overall though, Russians have nothing against the US, and most cannot care less about old Cold War differences. US is seen for what it is mostly- a strategic adversary, but a current economic partner and guide. Russia's and Russians' primary concern today is economy. War and alliances are far from the spectrum (unlike the case with US after 9/11).

Russians have alot of websites in Russian, on similar topics as ATS deals with, and most would rather visit those websites. I would bet that most Russians on ATS do not actually live in Russia. Also for the most part, ATS seems to be too pro US to cater to interests of members of the non-Western world (to which Russia can partly be attributed). By pro-US I mean certainly not pro-Bush and pro-War, but rather pro-US ideaology: capitalism, democracy and only democracy, etc. For example almost no one on ATS questioned the orange revolution in Ukraine, American foreign policy towards CIS countries, America's adversarial stance on everything communist, and the war in Serbia.

Overall this site seems to be of interest primarily to people who are well familiar with US politics. As for agents monitoring this site- far far unlikely. I would think that the intelligence community largely dismisses sites such as ATS as being parlor talk. Not to say that there isn't stuff of importance to be found here- but the internet is too vast to filter for sensetive information.



posted on Sep, 20 2006 @ 09:28 AM
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Every other person posting in here is a russian spy. It's the way things work. For all I know the guy who started this thread is a super spy from russia with love.



posted on Sep, 20 2006 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by Agit8dChop
Why dont I ever see threads about ATS, and the conspiracy about it being COINTELPRO.


Just saw this thread, but you must just have somehow missed the 8,432 threads about ATS being disinfo or COINTELPRO. Believe me (or not), they've been here aplenty.



posted on Sep, 22 2006 @ 10:13 AM
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Yes Im working for the Russians and feeding the Chinese as well, ATS is chock full of state secrets and intel thats why Im on it. I miss the good old days of the camera film in the tooth paste and mixing it with female agents, the internet has spoilt all my fun, now I just get blisters on my ass.



posted on Sep, 22 2006 @ 10:20 AM
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No. There are no Russian agents. There are no American Feds. There are no shadow government people and there are no counter-intel postings going on.

Those folks have more important things to do than sit on a computer reading what paranoid consipracists (like me and you) have to say about anything. They don't care.

Heck .. even if there WERE various government people reading this site, I'm sure they'd just be
... I mean, comeon ... Diana killed by Vampires?
Nothing is said here that is earth shattering or that will change the world. I'm sure 'they' are more interested in what is going on with terrorist sites. Not this one.



posted on Sep, 22 2006 @ 10:39 AM
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Are there Russian Agents on ATS?


Nyet.


Come on comrade, forget about those problems and lets have some wodka!

*dances in crouching position*

[edit on 22-9-2006 by Nygdan]



posted on Sep, 23 2006 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Nygdan

Are there Russian Agents on ATS?


Nyet.


Come on comrade, forget about those problems and lets have some wodka!

*dances in crouching position*

[edit on 22-9-2006 by Nygdan]


Nygdan, if it were found that there were Russian agents on ATS, would ATS be redesigned or reshaped?

I believe the current design of ATS is excellent.



posted on Sep, 23 2006 @ 08:11 PM
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Nupas ruskie tovarich, nim nolga?








posted on Sep, 23 2006 @ 08:43 PM
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Русский агенты являются всюду!

But as FF said if there are any "agents" on this site from any country or agency they are probably here for entertainment rather then for work...

...except for me of course. *quotes penguin from Madagascar* "You didn't see anything".



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