If you're not careful (but you're still alive) you can end up destroying your liver/kidneys from misuse/overuse of NSAID's...

damn, that hurts, guess i will start looking for something different and/or actually get tougher.........................

Wait, wait wait...before we throw out something that is a perfectly good pharmaceutical, let's ask the following questions:

1. How MUCH aspirin/N-SAID was administered at a time?
2. How LONG was the above dose administered?

As my brother so eloquently points out...if you shove enough of anything up a rat's ass, for long enough, you'll kill him.

Valhall, this isn't an experiment. This is 20, 000 Americans dying every year from taking a drug that they think is safe. I am not saying that people shouldn't use NSAIDs. They should just be made known the risks.

Yes, I understand that, and sorry if my brother's colloquialism lost my point. We do not know if these people were taking more than the recommended daily dose. We really don't know what the factors were.

I am personally connected with some one who took over 33,000 mg of acetaminophen a day when hooked on Norco for OVER 3 YEARS! YES! They have permanent liver damage. Word up...that's because they were overdosing daily for 3 years on the stuff.

Also, unknown to a lot of people there can be SEVERE side effects because of interaction between N-SAIDs and other medications.

This does NOT mean that N-SAIDS are bad drugs, it means some pharmacist didn't do his job (OR the patient didn't inform the doctor or pharmacist of other drugs being taken).

My point is, we need to know more before we start advising people to stop taking what has been a VERY effective class of drugs.

I don't agree with any kind of drugs err except maybe weed heh. hey i live in BC!! Anyways as i was saying drugs are bad they destroy your liver and other important organs, not to mention Antibiotics. I prefer the more Natural ways of healing oneself like Bentonite Clay, Liquid Acidophilus, Biotin, and various other herbs.

Yes they are effective. And I am sure the majority of the people that die from gastrointestinal bleeding probably popped them like they were pez. I don't know for sure if they realized the potential harm of their actions.

I wouldn't even suggest that they should be banned. I just want people to know that there are side effects to these things and they don't put dosages on the bottle because they need to fill up room on a label.



[Edited on 10-11-2003 by greenkoolaid]

Asprin is to be used in these quantities:

1g (2x500gms) every 4-6hrs AS AN WHEN REQUIRED!

No more than 6-8 tabs per 24hrs.

You should not take Asprin or Asprin containing products if u pregnant or have anything wrong with ur major organs especially ur heart!

Remember asprin thins ur blood down...its main treatment is for DVT and Blood Clots.

Also...never give to children under 12yrs old!

[Edited on 10-11-2003 by Gryffen]

What i don't understand is that the Gov't in Canada is trying to put a ban on herbs. Im not talking about effedra although i have nothing against it at all, its stupid people who do stupid things and end up dead because of it that the rest of us have to suffer for it. In fact i read about something a year ago, in Australia it's illegal to sell Vitamin C with more than 250 milligrams in it. Why are they censoring Vit C??? It's just weird IMHO. I'm sure they'd much rather us eat altered foods and take their prescribed drugs instead, Power and $$$ thats all the Gov't care about.

I believe high levels of Vitamin C can cause constipation. I don't know why that would make them restrict how it can be sold.

Originally posted by greenkoolaid
I believe high levels of Vitamin C can cause constipation. I don't know why that would make them restrict how it can be sold.

Vit C can certainly do the opposite as well i used to take 6 a day and never had problems with it

I'm allergic to aspirin to begin with (I have G6PD), so this really doesn't phase me. Interesting, none-the-less.

I remember hearing something about people who pop asprin without water and how dangerous it is, i'd like to find some info on it so if anyone can find a link to that would be much appreciated!

[Edited on 11-11-2003 by Sapphire]

I don't think that all the patient education in the world by doctors/pharmacists/nurses could make people take Aspirin properly. Most people (and I've been guilty of thinking this way myself) think - "Oh, it's only an over-the-counter medication, and if 1 works great, 2 or 3 will work even better..."

*snorts*

Not the brightest crayon in the box... Can't believe I just admitted that, LOL!

Originally posted by Valhall
This does NOT mean that N-SAIDS are bad drugs, it means some pharmacist didn't do his job (OR the patient didn't inform the doctor or pharmacist of other drugs being taken).

My point is, we need to know more before we start advising people to stop taking what has been a VERY effective class of drugs.

Re 9:21 and they did not repent of their murders nor of their sorceries nor of their immorality nor of their thefts.

The word translated sorcery here is the Greek word Pharmakeia which means to make or administer drugs and medicine. It is also used for poisoning. It was the sorcerers that did this in the time of John and was often connected to idolatry. Man learned the art of pharmakeia by the fallen angels, together with abortion, astrology, chanting and weapons of war. Pharmakeia comes from from pharmakon which was the word they used for people who made medicine and magical potions. Pharmacy is Pharmakeia in English. Lukas who wrote the gospel of Luke and Acts could possibly be called a pharmakon in Greece. Go figure....

Blessings,
Mikromarius

Aspirin isnt all bad though...but all kind of medicin has its effects and some people are more sensitive against some pills.

Or is it just a way to keep the population down

Originally posted by Sapphire
I remember hearing something about people who pop asprin without water and how dangerous it is, i'd like to find some info on it so if anyone can find a link to that would be much appreciated!

I've heard of drinking a glass of water with aspirin to lessen stomach irritation. I'm not sure of any other effects. Maybe you're thinking of Alka-Seltzer? You're definitely supposed to let that dissolve before consumption.

I do not take aspirin and rarely do I use any pharmaceutical.

Originally posted by andhow
I don't think that all the patient education in the world by doctors/pharmacists/nurses could make people take Aspirin properly. Most people (and I've been guilty of thinking this way myself) think - "Oh, it's only an over-the-counter medication, and if 1 works great, 2 or 3 will work even better..."

*snorts*

Not the brightest crayon in the box... Can't believe I just admitted that, LOL!

nice avatar...am i right in judging it to be your resultant formation based on wishful thinking?
aspirine...a very good drug, i myself havent taken anything of the sort ever since i can remember.
aspirine is there when u need it...dont overdose, or the syndromes could worsen when affected by..liver failiure? a classic example
anything else on that note isnt worth mentioning..
Cordially
Cyrus.

So are they referring to just regular uncoated aspirin or all types like coated Tylenol gelcaps and the like as well?