Has anyone seen the newly released documentary titled, Why We Fight? It was winner of the Grand Jury Award at Sundance film festival.

It takes a close look at the anatomy of American war-making, and all the minds behind such action. Wouldn't you know it, Rumsfield, wolfawitz, and Cheney are all up in the corruption.

From my pov it is laid out at bipartison as it can considering. A lot of reputable figures in american policy are interviewed within. It is very informative to someone that didn't know how the last 70 years can be connected perfectly through special interests in our own Industrial military complex.

IT IS GREAT!

AAC

wrong forum buddy...

Originally posted by they see ALL
wrong forum buddy...

Right. If this isn't ATS Conspiracy material, nothing is...

Will check it out.

I've moved this to ATS because it's definately conspiracy related.

Thanks Dae, I will check it out. Is it possible to have these Doc's included into highschool curriculums? Ah well, wishful thinking!!!

I will qoute the famous Pink Floyd line: HEY TEACHERS! Leave those kids alone!!!

AAC

Are there any Bush & Company lovers that have seen this movie and would like to respond? I would just like to know where you stand on this ideology. Thanks, AAC

Does it count that I voted for him twice??? *smiling sweetly*

FWIW, I have no great love of Bush & Co.
I found the movie fairly impartial. It did deal with presidents from both parties going off and sending the military to various countries since the end of WWII. So, I don't think it's really fair to single out the current guy in the Oval Office.

More and more, the presidency and its agenda seems to be single minded in its approach to the military might of the US. Probably because of what Eisenhower warned us about: the military-industrial complex.
Ya know, big business and the military The MIC rolls along gathering speed and money no matter what party sits in power. Please be under no allusions that a shift in power will signal the end of the abuse of the MIC.
It will be business as usual.

EDIT
Besides, this is ATS, not PTS.
We really don't need this to turn into a partisan issue.
The real issue is the MIC.
I really hope as many as can view this film sooner rather than later. So we can discuss the topic rather than the current administration.


[edit on 28-8-2006 by DontTreadOnMe]

I review it in two ways. For the layman this can be an eye opening piece. It goes through the machinations of the MI complex, mixing the pentagon, crooked congressman, and private business along with the think tank movement. It exposes most of the key players who led the US into Iraq, even getting interviews with some of them. Richard Perle and Bill Kristol look like total jackasses as they should. John McCain is on there talking tough about the Bush administration, how they were careless, have acquired too much power, blah blah blah. Then you hear in the background his asst says Rumsfeld is on the phone, a man who he was lambasting in front of the camera. McCain has to interrupt the interview and looks like a deer in the headlights as he is exposed to be a fraudulent populist and progressive. There is also a touching piece with a vietnam vet/retired NYC cop whose son is lost in the WTC disaster. He tries to find a way to memorialize his son and after e-mailing an armed forces official he gets a response from a marine who has etched his son's name on a bomb bound for Iraq. Later the father hears Bush deny any connection to Iraq in regards to 9/11 and is visibly shaken as his memorisl to his son now has no meaning.

Now for someone like me this movie goes so far in its expose but as with all else refuses to speak of the elephant in the room, Israel and Zionists behind the war. It goes over the entire roster of PNAC, Rumsfeld intel unit, the members of Bush's administration who are all connected. But it ended there. All these people are connected but how? The movie refused to say.

Originally posted by thetorch
McCain has to interrupt the interview and looks like a deer in the headlights

Yeah that scene right there says ALOT.
McCains eye twitches when his assistant tells him "the vice president is on the phone".
GEE, ya dont think ol' Dick was listening in on the interview do ya? I mean the timing is just too suspect, but maybe Dick calls all the time, I dont know.
All I do know is McCains eye twitched...
he was clearly afraid.
Also VERY telling was the bonus interviews after the show. In particular the interview with Chuck Spinney (sp).
It starts out with him saying something like "why are we doing the interview on a boat?" and ends with a comment like " I dont like the term whistleblower, Im not a whistleblower. I backed out of the salloon with both guns blazing".
I took those two and drew the conclusion that the interview was on his boat because he was afraid for his life. I surmised that he just went from port to port.

For those of you that dont know who Chuck Spinney is I suggest you research him. He is a great American patriot in my book, right up there with Smedley Butler.

As far as the Zionist thread that links the entire world together. I agree it exists, but I dont think that everyone sees or understands this aspect of world affairs. To include it in this movie would only have clouded an otherwise clear film.
The Zionist aspect is IMO something better left for those that really want to dig for the truth, and they will see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
Overall I really liked the movie. Well worth renting. or maybe even buying!

It is also available via Pay per view in many cable areas...

It was worth the $4
hell, it was worth $1000

a must see for anyone that really wants to know what is going on. It anwers all the questions, and gets very high up players to talk very candidly...

It almost seems like these people have actually developed a conscious and are trying to expose the monster that they helped create...

One major revelation: an open admittal that Iraq was the next war, regardless of whether 9-11 had ever happened... the plans were drawn up years before...

and why? because America needed another war target, to feed the machine... a machine that is needed for America to have jobs, and an economy... (not because of any actual threat)

and for those that didn't realize... America has been at war, since WW2...
every few years, another little war is started to supply contracts with the machine...
middle east, africa, central america, south america...
there is very few continents that we havent bloodied with our progress of democracy (BTW, it exposes this democracy spreading, as industrial capitalism)

it ALSO charges that the "machine", has bought influence with a massive consortium of politicians, via manufacturing in the politicians districts... (trade jobs, for support)