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Originally posted by Duby78
I served in army five years ago. Later I entered police academy, and also had rifle marskmanship training with AK rifles (Yugo version only). We were using standard FMJ ammo, made in ex-Yu. It's considered to be high quality ammo - it is reliable and VERY accurate. And I've been talking to my friend, who is sniper instructor in croatian army NCO school. I've told him about getting semi-auto Romanian AK for 300$ and Yugo for 400$. Well, he told me he wouldn't buy Romak even if it costed 30$. I trust his judgement - he's been using allmoast all types of rifles present in my country up to date, and those were really numerous (all sorts of AK's - 7,62 and 5,45, H&K G3, FN FAL, M-16A1 and A2, FAMAS.........).
Northwolf, I agree with you abot SAKO rifle, I've read about it. I have high respect for rifles made in Finland. I've shot SAKO TRG-41 sniper in .338 Lapua Magnum, with original Lapua ammo. To me, TRG series snipers are the best in the world!
This new Croatian rifle, named VHS, was recently presented on iKA, an annual innovation display in Karlovac, Croatia.
Externally, it may look like a fuse of Tavor, Tavor 2 and FAMAS, but internally, there's a different story; when fired, gun powder gasses push the bolt backward via piston, that much is the same as in almost all assault rifles. However, the unique feature of this gun is that it has additional gas vent that leads some of the gases into a chamber located BEHIND the bolt. As the bolt moves backward, it's gradually slowed down and then softly stopped by a gas cushion, rather then coming into an abrupt stop as it reaches it's most backward position, causing recoil. This feature makes VHS, well, not recoilless, but very low recoil and easy to fire.
Some other features of the VHS rifle are the following; length 750mm, width 448mm, height 255mm. Barrel length 500mm(!) Calibre 5,56X45mm NATO
Cyclic rate of fire- 600rpm, single/auto/safe fire selector
Weight (without flash light, grenade launcher, bayonet or magazine)- only 2,3kg(!)
Pistol grip placed in weapon's center point, making it possible to fire with one hand.
Integral bipod that folds entirely into a serration in the grip.
Dove tail mount located under the barrel, infront of the pistol grip- for mounting flash light, laser or IC light.
Easy mounting 40mm underbarrel grenade launcher- when lower part of the front grip is removed, the GL mounts on the gun in the same manner as the bayonet.
Any kind of optical sight can be mounted ontop of a carry handle, which is also equipped with iron sight that shooter uses with both eyes open- apparently, this feature is common in some hunting rifles...I'd appreciate any additional info on that. (I'm familiar with military rifles, but know next to nothing about hunting rifles or shotguns...)
The VHS is developed by HS Produkt, the same factory that makes HS2000/ Springfield XD pistols. It's been thoroughly tested by HS Product team and presented as finished product, not prototype. It's currently undergoing testing by Croatian army. Rumour has it it's even been offered to US army...
Possible date of adaptation by Croatian army- some say Croatian contingent of MPs in Afghanistan will be equipped with VHS soon, other sources say the earliest VHS can be adopted is 2008...
Originally posted by Duby78
I did a little research on these newer Romak rifles, made for civilian use. It's only a slight redesign. It has forward grip removed, and different pistol grip. Barrel is the same... and that would trouble me the most.
Originally posted by northwolf
At least guns named ROMAK are marketed in Finland too, not only in USA... But the PSL/ROMAK svd wannabe was quite a dissapointment in accuracy tests made by a local gun magazine... clearly inferior to SVDs (that are called Unmarksman rifles in here but it might be just the fact that we expect SAKO accuracy from everyone else too )
Originally posted by GPWASR10
Is it a ROMAK as in a PSL ROMAK dude? Cause if that is the case then you are getting a designated marksmen rifle. Not some run of the mill AK. My ROMAK PSL (7.62x54R) is money out to about 500 yards. My Romanian AK’s are good out to about 200 yards or so vs. a man sized target. The drums are good but unless you have a full auto they are just a little worthless. Cool looking but worthless.
[edit on 22-8-2006 by GPWASR10]