Was The Asteroid Belt a planet???

No time to read all the thread at the mo, so I don't know if this has been suggested yet.

What if... Instead of Mars having been a moon of a larger now-destroyed planet, how about combining the masses of Mars and the asteroid belt.

What I'm getting at is... Perhaps the asteroid belt is the matter that was ejected from Mars AFTER something collided with it. The net effect would be that Mars would lose enough mass to be unable to hold an atmosphere any longer. Over time it would recover it's spherical shape, albeit in a much reduced size. The change in mass would probably also mean a change in orbit distance around the sun, as it came back to some sort of orbital equilibrium.

End result would be a smaller planet and a debris field we now call the asteroid belt.

The obvious implication from this is... If Mars was bigger and more massive, would it then have had an atmosphere, and possibly life... perhaps even an advanced civilization?.... And what was the disaster that destroyed a planet's life-bearing potential and civilization?


Just a thought

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That's an interesting idea. It would be as if Mars bled out molten rock and at the same time lost its outer atmosphere. Have you noticed the great number of icy comets floating about in our solar system? They could all be from the ancient atmosphere of Mars. Maybe Mars had a thick dense atmosphere like Saturn and it blew it off into space. The asteroid belt could have been the molten rock from within Mars and the icy comets could have been its thick atmosphere. The asteroids seem to be locked into a specific orbit whereas the comets are not.

What would happen to a cloud in Earth's atmosphere if it were launched into space? Would it turn into an icy comet too?

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Originally posted by mikesingh
I strongly feel that the Asteroid Belt was a planet having a very advanced civilization which blew up due to some experiment which went awry.

Can you say Death Star.

Originally posted by mikesingh
The Atlanteans could have been the last remnants of this civilisation which had migrated to Earth thousands of years before this catastrophe.

Don't you mean Alderanians?

Originally posted by mikesingh
Now some will say, prove it. I can't, though I wish I could. But can someone prove that the universe started with the Big Bang? So all is theory and conjecture. We don't even know how the moon got here!

Search your feelings mikesingh

The asteroid belt isn't just made up of floating rocks.

For example the asteriod called "16 Psyche" is a 200 km ball of iron-nickel.
That's 1.7 E19 Kg of Iron! That would be enough to meet the global iron production rate experienced in 2004 for several million years!

Also, scientists suspect that the asteroid "433 Eros" may have a mixture of metals such as aluminum, gold, platinum and other rare metals within its 33 km x 13 km x 13km body. In the 2,900 cubic kms of Eros, there is more metals for use than could be ever excavated from the earth's crust.
This could be the gold mine of the future.

Rare gold meteorites have been found on the earth's surface.
A 100 pound gold meteorite was found in Australia around 1974. It was found a few inches below the surface of the outback, miles away from any mountains or any probable sources of gold. They found it with a metal detector.

When you see a falling asteroid get there first, it may be solid gold. On the other hand be careful, it may be radioactive.


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metaresearch link says that the moon is only.01 ie one percent of the earth's mass, which is prob correct. But the moon's relative size to earth should indicate a much greater mass. The moon is prob hollow, and I believe the base for the Orion aliens who had the pyramids built and have interfered in our affairs since...see pyramid and eye on yr notes.

I think that it was a Planet.It had advanced life.Just like Mars.The race was intelligent.Interacting with Extraterrestrials.And the race was not so nice.Liked greed and other negative feelings....And got into a war.The planet was destroyed in war for what ever reason they did.Then knocking mars off of its orbit... Thats my opinion.I like talking about this stuff.So interest me reply or tell me something i do not know.

Interesting thread - a lot of what has been said here is contained within the impact and exit event. This is a wide-ranging theory that incorporates the destruction of a planet via a collision with Mars. This planet then disintegrated ...and became the asteroid belt. As I said, this is only a small part of what is described as a 'chronological series of events' that make up the entire theory. Detailed explanations of how, why and where the impact occurred on the surface of Mars is also discussed. More info is at www.theimpactandexitevent.com
I'll keep dropping by to see if you guys have any thoughts on the theory.
Chips

Someone also commented in an earlier post that "We don't even know how the moon got here!".
The impact and exit event also covers this. The creation of the moon occurred following the 'exit' event suggested by the author. Looking at the way he puts his argument(s) his version of events is quite plausible. The creation of the moon via 'the impact and exit event' is the last in a series of major, inter-related events that (it is suggested) took place across the solar system. The theory suggests that each event was a direct consequence of another, equally huge event that had previously occurred (hence the chronology).
Chips

OK - this is how it is: the asteroid belt was part of our Moon that was left behind from mass-driving it into Earth's orbit. This is why we always see the same side of the Moon - because it's only half a planet(oid?). This is probably why there's that great gash in the side of Mars as well (Valles Marines or whatever) and possibly why Mars is in the condition it is now.

Who wouldn't like this to be true?

My son says it was the planet "Alderon."
May the Force be with you (farce in this case).

I am working on a theory about the formation of the solar system, which includes that the asteroid belt was a larger mass or several larger masses than the many smaller fragments that it is now. The question arises: was it broken up by the gravitational pull of Jupiter, or was it blown up by an advanced civilization? I'm still gather data. Whatever the cause of the explosion, it definitely had an effect on the neighboring planets; Jupiter, Mars, and the Earth. In answer to the post by Mike Singh, who said,"can someone prove that the universe started with a Big Bang." I spent many years developing a theory that showed Why the Big Bang Theory is wrong, and developed a theory that replacse it: see: trailblazingresearch.org...

I dont know if this has been said already but what if the asteroid belt was set up so no one would come across earth. Maybe humans have been around longer than once thought. Imagine a galatic total war ignited over a missing lunch time meal and us humans were the ones that grabed it. Maybe they lost that galactic war and were being hunted down like animals throughout the universe. They probably blew up a few inhabited planets and made they asteroid belt to hide lil earth with a small pocket of them. They made the solar system look like a dead planet system.

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Love that link to the doom porn calculator site .... nice

....even a 3 km. dia. chunk of ice does serious damage

originally posted by: Noel101001
I dont know if this has been said already but what if the asteroid belt was set up so no one would come across earth. Maybe humans have been around longer than once thought. Imagine a galatic total war ignited over a missing lunch time meal and us humans were the ones that grabed it. Maybe they lost that galactic war and were being hunted down like animals throughout the universe. They probably blew up a few inhabited planets and made they asteroid belt to hide lil earth with a small pocket of them. They made the solar system look like a dead planet system.

The asteroid belt cannot serve as any kind of barrier, because it's mostly empty space and the asteroids are very far and few in-between. The fact that we have sent many spacecraft beyond it proves that.

If you could clump all the main belt asteroids into one object, it would be smaller than the Moon.

originally posted by: wildespace

originally posted by: Noel101001
I dont know if this has been said already but what if the asteroid belt was set up so no one would come across earth. Maybe humans have been around longer than once thought. Imagine a galatic total war ignited over a missing lunch time meal and us humans were the ones that grabed it. Maybe they lost that galactic war and were being hunted down like animals throughout the universe. They probably blew up a few inhabited planets and made they asteroid belt to hide lil earth with a small pocket of them. They made the solar system look like a dead planet system.

The asteroid belt cannot serve as any kind of barrier, because it's mostly empty space and the asteroids are very far and few in-between. The fact that we have sent many spacecraft beyond it proves that.

If you could clump all the main belt asteroids into one object, it would be smaller than the Moon.

Even if they were lined up next to each other, the idea that they could serve as a boundary is ludicrous, since they all lie primarily in the same plane.

Harte

originally posted by: wildespace

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If you could clump all the main belt asteroids into one object, it would be smaller than the Moon.

much smaller, only 7% of the volume of the moon

Most excellent thread and exactly why I joined ATS

Some really awesome theories and debunking in this thread but I am curious
as to why an exploding planet theory in our inner asteroid belt is accompanied
by a rogue planet?

Could a Quasar/Super Nova/Black Hole type of event not been the culprit?

My personal theory:

The Elongated skulls were actually from the exploded planet..(I call it "Sitnalta')
There was mining colonies on Mars when their planet exploded caused by the above mentioned solar catastrophe. (quasar etc.)
Their planet exploded and before the trajectory of debris caused the destruction of Mars -
the Mars mining Elongated crews planet jumped to Earth.

They understood they could not survive in Earth's atmosphere and they would eventually die out
so they decided to splice their gene (Genesis..gene assisted) with an Earth species so that
eventually their gene would overtake the hybrid Earth species enhancing our intelligence to a level of their own.
Their species may not live on, but this way their DNA would.

This Elongated species is our misplaced history written about in scripture, encoded in the most
ancient of antiquities monuments strewn across our planet and the missing link to our history.

So when the inner asteroid belt planet Sitnalta blew, it 'imploded' which froze and hardened it's molten core
pushing the debris into becoming our inner asteroid belt and ejecting it's now formed hollow molten core into
Earth's direction eventually being captured and becoming our moon

..as far as theories goes - this is my personal theory; I'm still working this theory looking at all answers to conclude our missing history . . let me be the first to conclude - this theory does seem to wrap everything up a little too nicely..
..but hey, cheer up debunkers..for now it's just a theory

originally posted by: mikesingh
I strongly feel that the Asteroid Belt was a planet having a very advanced civilization which blew up due to some experiment which went awry.

Check out Jupiter's 'Red Spot'. One of the pieces of this planet probably hit Jupiter here creating some sort of a weather vortex.

Darn. Why are there so many unanswered questions even in the 21st century?

These are only "unanswered questions" in your mind. Science has explained both the asteroid belt AND Jupiter's Red Spot.

Asteroids form planets, not the other way around, it's basic gravity theory.