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Alberto Gonzalez is a danger to freedom...

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posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 11:07 PM
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...and the American way. Look at this crud he is spreading! Link Here is a snipet from the article.


"The most dramatic change," said Gonzales, "is the nature of the enemy our country today faces -- a stateless enemy sometimes hidden and nurtured here in our neighborhoods, taking advantage of the very laws they mock with their killing and destruction, as a shield from detection and prosecution."

Gonzales, further emphasizing the perceived domestic danger, stated, "The threat of homegrown terrorist cells may be as dangerous as groups like al Qaeda, if not more so.

"It is therefore essential that we continue to develop the tools we need to investigate their actions and intentions with the help of our partners, and prosecute those who travel down the road of radicalization."


We are headed down a road we may not be able to turn back from, it is happening very slowly.



Winning the war on terror requires us to win the war of getting information. Like tiny but important pieces of a complicated puzzle, we can now take the most innocuous, seemingly unrelated pieces of information and connect the dots of a complex terrorist plot.

The reasons are many. The Patriot Act closed law-enforcement and intelligence gaps so that a local cop can check a national terrorist list when he arrests a thief or drug dealer and the FBI can check with the CIA when investigation a ring of art thieves.


We are screwed if the majority doesnt awaken to this long term plan to end American freedom and privacy.

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posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 12:05 AM
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I don't understand how monitoring individuals with ties to terrorism or those with criminal pasts is a danger to our freedoms.



posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by laiguana
I don't understand how monitoring individuals with ties to terrorism or those with criminal pasts is a danger to our freedoms.


You have to be kidding. When he stated this:


"It is therefore essential that we continue to develop the tools we need to investigate their actions and intentions with the help of our partners, and prosecute those who travel down the road of radicalization."


He is talking about Americans that do not want this country to turn fascist. He is talking about modern day revolutionaries.




“Fascism ought to more properly be called corporatism since it is the merger of state and corporate power.” ~Benito Mussolini


The U.S. has become a nation of the corporation, by the corporation, and for the corporation. We are a becoming fascist nation and most are to distracted to realize this fact, and with people like Alberto, soon all those that are brave enough to save your butt will be in prisons.



posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 09:28 AM
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LoneGunMan,

Good find here


I highlighted the following from your article, because I wanted to draw attention to a few key lines. I believe these key points, which I have placed in bold, Note key attacks on what I believe to be the last bastion of free speech; the Internet.


It has also driven al Qaeda to the Internet, where their ideology has inspired and radicalized others. There are between 5,000 and 6,000 extremist websites on the Internet, each one encouraging extremists to cultivate relationships with like- minded people. These are the home-grown terrorists that you have heard about.

This radicalization is happening online and can therefore develop anywhere, in virtually any neighborhood, and in any country.

Academic settings, mosques and community centers can ferment radicalization as well. Anywhere that the disaffected can gather can become a home-base for the development of radicalism.
USNewsirwe.com


They highlight the Internet.. and as we have covered in several threads here at ATS... that battle continues to impliment control over the last bastion of free speech. IS ATS a fostering ground for terrorism? I say absolutely not!... but I am not the govt.. out on a modern day witch hunt.



taking advantage of the very laws they mock with their killing and destruction, as a shield from detection and prosecution


Life, it seems, is not without a sense of ironic humor. Old Alberto sums this up for me perfectly. How many time has this Administration used the veil of national security to hide their own illegal activities? How many times has this Administration mocked our laws?... toooooo many in my opinion. And yet, here they are; pot calling the kettle black. I think John Harington summed it up best with the following quote I now leave you with:

"Treason doth never prosper: what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason-John Harington

thank you for your time

TONE23



posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 12:04 PM
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These are the home-grown terrorists that you have heard about.


This article is one of the scariest things I have ever read. They will have no problem convincing the moral majority and the rest of the fundamentalists, that the Internet needs to be censored.

God help us all.



posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 12:21 PM
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I don't know why ANYONE would take this guy seriously. He stated AS FACT that George Washington and Abraham Lincoln used ELectrical Wiretaps on people's Phones! For all those who don't know, the phone, let alone electricity wasn't even discovered during Washnigton's time.

Sorry, this guy, like the rest of the Administration, is full of it.



posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 02:29 PM
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I don't think they should censor the internet, but I don't have a problem with agencies monitoring people's activity on the internet. Especially if they are connected to terrorism, or if they have the background that may link them to such activity.

I think keeping internet neutrality is very important, especially if you want to be able to catch people involved in crime, such as child pornography.



posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by laiguana
I don't think they should censor the internet, but I don't have a problem with agencies monitoring people's activity on the internet. Especially if they are connected to terrorism, or if they have the background that may link them to such activity.

I think keeping internet neutrality is very important, especially if you want to be able to catch people involved in crime, such as child pornography.


I dont have a problem with the govt monitoring terrorists and I certainly have no problem with hunting child pornographers. I, for one, am concerned that once again it will not stop at terrorists or child pornographers, but rather, will include political adversaries(depending on which party has the power at the time); Environmental and watchdog groups; and the inevitable people that get caught up in the wide net that is cast. Without some good oversight I fear that our govt tends to get overzealous in its quests for "freedom" and "security".

But even more than the internet factor is the statements of hometown terrorists. Which, to me, is the govt laying the foundation arguement to further erode our Constitutional rule of law. Their point is, IMO, to help validate their reasoning for widespread tapping of phones and internet traffic and banking transactions.



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