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posted on Nov, 1 2003 @ 11:57 AM
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If you type in certain keywords like 'mars animals' the lesser traffic site, angelfire,
will show up in the results but not mars-mania. Mars-mania is in the
top 250,000 to 300,000 websites out of the nearly 4 billion websites
on the internet. The angelfire site only gets 1/30th the amount of traffic.
Someone is obviously paying the top search engines to 'filter' mars-mania
from certain search results. Less popular search engines return both on
the first page of results. I know it is not NASA because I presented
a paper with 8x10 color glossies to them and only gave them the angelfire
site in the references. I have no idea how much it costs or who
would be behind it. I would appreciate any theories from the group here.

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posted on Nov, 1 2003 @ 12:04 PM
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inthevoid,
Welcome and greetings.
I would be interested in reading more on this and on your thoughts on a variety of subjects.
I look forward to reading your future comments and topics.
Enjoy.

Peace.

regards
seekerof



posted on Nov, 1 2003 @ 12:29 PM
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You can peruse my stats page which lists the top 20 or 30 keywords
and phrases used in searches that returned mars-mania. Just go to:
www.mars-mania.com... Here also are the most
common IP addresses of those visiting. I see Moscow occassionally.
later,
keith phillips


GEX

posted on Nov, 1 2003 @ 10:12 PM
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Hi inthevoid. I'll visit your site, you can visit mine too



posted on Nov, 1 2003 @ 10:14 PM
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Hello, welcome to ATS, I shall give your sites a visit.



posted on Nov, 1 2003 @ 10:54 PM
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The issue is not who is buying links above you, but website design and search engine optimization. Your page is not optimized for search engines.

Try a google search on "government conspiracies" and see who comes up first. If someone were trying to manipulate search results, we'd see a different result.



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 04:21 PM
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The most important thing to become aware of is that the 'powers that be' pay the top search engines to filter 'the truth' from the results.
There are also numerous out of date and dummy pages to fill the results on the more sensitive topics. It is like changing channels at night on your television set to get the 'news'. You click through the alphabet channels and it is the same format every time.
The media has a set of generally agreed principles on which they operate, including the ommission of certain types of news, eg crop circles, UFOs, ... one could go on. This results in 'formula' news on TV, where one can predict that there will be:
1) an emotional appeal for news about some missing kid by the mother
2) pics of terrorist wreckage in Israel/Bali/somewhere
3) news of a potential or actual strike in the public services.
4) an incorrect weather forecast
5) lots of sport items of absolutely no consequence
6) What some Minister/politician said
7) some ridiculous 'happy item' where we are all supposed to go "ahhh, cooee, diddums, fancy that".



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 04:24 PM
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How much do you know about search engine technology and optimizing sites for search?



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 04:49 PM
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Question there inthevoid===>ISYOUR FLYING SAUCER....beaming down Something? into the mortal humans hands?

OR==>is your SAUCER just 'fueling up' as it were....
in that the 'beam' is siphoning energy from the human soul?
++++

Well, that was my rest stop...see ya'll later

%$#$%$#%-> etc etc etc etc.......
s/riff raff



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 05:03 PM
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How much do I know about search engines? Not much! I have just been paying some attention over the last few years at how quickly even my lowly angelfire site would show up on the search engines every time I posted a page with a different title. Recently though I noticed that my heavily visited mars-mania wasn't getting the same treatment. I then tried several different search engines and got both sites or neither. At least on the first page or two of the results. When you create a webpage and give it a title that you think could be a key search phrase you must then go to several search engines and search for it. Obviously it won't show up immediately but you have planted the seed. Of course, you can always make a post on a BBS that references that page to get traffic and show up on the search engine 'radar'. As for the saucer beam it is in the process of beaming me aboard susposedly.



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 05:52 PM
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As I mentioned, the mars site is poorly designed from a search engine standpoint. To understand what search engines "see" when they come to index a page... use a text-only bare-bones browser like Lynx. If they don't know what's there, how can they show the page on search returns?



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 06:09 PM
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Let's not squabble over how much better you are at designing webpages. That is not the point. Both sites use the same format on the index page. It is not the index page that is in question anyway. The pages that reference mars animals are identical. Mars-mania has the alexa tool bar showing it is in the top .3% and if you go and check ranking.com it shows it even closer to .2%.
But the main thing is to keep them from ever getting above the top .01%. If people don't know what other people have found (or think they have found) then there can never be any discussion about it. My whole point is this: Use the less popular search engines and compare results especially when searching subjects that are typically discussed here.



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 06:21 PM
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First, why would you come here to promote your website? Read the guidelines. Using such a guise as conspiracy sites being censored through search engines is ludicrous.



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by goregrinder
First, why would you come here to promote your website? Read the guidelines. Using such a guise as conspiracy sites being censored through search engines is ludicrous.


Indeed. Go take your promoting somewhere else.



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 06:36 PM
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I never thought about promoting my website. I was using it asn an example. You are absolutely right. I am
ashamed and embarassed. I will ask the administrator
to delete the thread. Then can we discuss how the 'powers that be' are trying to control the internets ability to circumvent their control on society?



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 06:46 PM
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Welcome to ATS nice to have you with us.
Interesting Post!!



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 07:52 PM
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Thank you Sapphire. I hope this thread is deleted soon. I really
blew it. I just wasn't thinking (DOH!) I even mentioned all
you have to do is post a link on a BBS! You see I am quite happy
with my websites stats and I do not make any money from it.
I have never sold anything. Anyway, I owe everyone an apology.
I still want to discuss the topic of website demotion. I think
it happens a lot. I will just have to find another example
or two. Perhaps the US Navy confirms cold fusion is real. I will
search for one. The less popular search engines should be more
free from such payments. There was a great quote of Goethe as I
read in one of the replies.



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by inthevoid
If you type in certain keywords like 'mars animals' the lesser traffic site, angelfire,
will show up in the results but not mars-mania. Mars-mania is in the
top 250,000 to 300,000 websites out of the nearly 4 billion websites
on the internet. The angelfire site only gets 1/30th the amount of traffic.
Someone is obviously paying the top search engines to 'filter' mars-mania
from certain search results. Less popular search engines return both on
the first page of results. I know it is not NASA because I presented
a paper with 8x10 color glossies to them and only gave them the angelfire
site in the references. I have no idea how much it costs or who
would be behind it. I would appreciate any theories from the group here.

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have a beer.



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 07:58 PM
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Inthevoid, hey don't worry about it
We're here just to have fun and learn information and new ideas from one another. I agree with Drunk have a beer and enjoy the Ride



posted on Nov, 3 2003 @ 09:01 PM
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Yeh, my best sc##@#wups are when I have been hitting my beer.
Unfortunately, I cannot afford the good stuff. They laugh at me
at the checkout stand with my 2 $8 cases of Hamms. I'm not a stock holder
nor am I promoting their beer, O.K.? Yes, I have had stuff for sale
but I have never sold. I even used to try to give away money.
I had zero responses. I don't know how anybody can make money on
websites. Back to conspiracies: Did anyone know that the US Navy
confirmed that cold fusion is real 3 years ago? That they asked
our wonderful congress to fund more research? I will have to go
find the link or we can all try different search engines and meet back here.
MIT Cold Fusion Magazine has the story and the links to the two
PDF's. Also, anyone ever read about "there is no such thing as 'fossil fuel'"?





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