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Mexican millitary backs UFO sighting!

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posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 11:31 PM
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Reading those transcripts just strengthens my belief that this isn't hoax i just cant understand why an experienced pilot who's flying a route flown by others before could get oil wells confused with UFO's granted the evidence needs to be reviewed.

So Gazrok if you wanna do an epic piece on this im willing to back you up and help out. Im no conspiracy master but im sure i could help you out with some of the leg work just let me know what to do.

Lets find some evidence people!!!!!!!




posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 01:48 AM
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At one point you can see the objects pass between the clouds, Oil fires ? I say swamp gas.



posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 05:27 PM
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Additionally there is the definitive evidence that proves the infamous oil well flames
hypotesis is a hoax invented by mexican excentric Alejandro Franz.

After a two year period since the March 5, 2004 Air Force UFO encounter the mysterious lights have never appeared again.
And not only that. Before March 5, 2004 there was not a single report by the Air Force of any incident involving these lights or anything alike.

The Mexican Air Force has been continuously performing these surveillance flights over the Campeche aerial space as well as other zones as part of their anti-drugs operations in southern Mexico. Every flight has been documented according to the protocols with graphic images by the FLIR camera including crew conversations describing radar readings and other relevant informations regarding the flight.

Never before March 5, 2006 an incident like this was registered or reported byany of the Mexican Air Force airplanes. There are records and files of each mission.

When the March 5, 2004 ufo incident took place the Air Force conducted their own investigation due to the implications of the phenomena encountered. Issues like national security or the risk for the anti-drugs operations to be compromised
made necessary to perform immediate flights over that same location in Campeche and surrounding areas trying to find more intruders like these unknown luminous objects and gather as much data as posible.

The mysterious lights NEVER appeared again.

Since March 5, 2004 many many flights have been performed over the same zone in Campeche as part of the permanent
anti-narcotics programs. Flights documented with FLIR images and not a single luminous object invisible to the human eye has ever appeared like the March 5, 2004 ones.

What do all this facts mean ? It's clear as water. It's a matter of logic. If these
March 5, 2004 lights were in fact oil well flames burning permanentely in the ocean
plataforms they would appear all the time on the FLIR cameras of the military
airplanes, long before March 5, 2004 and certainly daily after the incident.

The mexican Air Force would have detected this immediately in their investigation
and would have never released the story, certainly Secretary of Defense General
Ricardo Vega would have never risk himself to release the case to the world if he knew these lights were just a bunch of oil well flames, you see ?

Clear as water. Strictly logic facts. This definitive evidence simply crumbled the oil well flames speculation and excentric Alejandro Franz´ debunking dream fell down.
Questioned about this issue Franz kept silent for obvious reasons exposing himself as a liar.

In any court of law the Alejandro Franz / oil well flames case will simply be dismissed for lack of solid evidences,
would be dismissed as irrelevant and immaterial.
The whole scheme is extremely weak and easy to disqualify.
The oil well flames hypotesis is just a ridicule illusion conceived by a sick
mind who still hopes to fool some people even it has been exposed as a
hoax.

So far the mexican Air Foce ufo case stands as legitimate and remains unexplained.



posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 06:14 PM
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and just a little side note regarding radar not picking them up. if we have those capabilities with our latest stealth planes than it would be possible that "they" could too.



posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by Zeratulhahaha

Must say that secretary of defense is an idiot cause he gave the video first to a ufo investigator instead of real researchers.


You know that comment might be dismissed off hand by many here but I agree with that 100%

If people really want unbiased, critical, and objective analysis of UFO footage they will arrange to have the video reviewed by someone who doesn't have an invested interest in propagating the phenomenon. Truth is they want it to be a UFO and therefore seek someone out who will justify their claims.

With that the same applies to doctors specializing in Alien abduction hypnotic therapy. Both the patient and doctor are inclined to believe/accept other wordly involvement. The conclusions are rarely ever a surprise.

Ohh well ....



[edit on 18-8-2006 by nullster]


Toc

posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
Sadly, the most likely explanation is oil platforms in the Gulf.
Daytime footage showing the fire plumes pretty much match up to whats on the infrared footage taken by the planes.

Have to side with the skeptics on this one, much as I hate to...
The evidence is simply strongly in favor of the oil platform explanation...

Something I loathe even more, hehe....linking to csicop.....but it does have a pretty lengthy explanation....

www.csicop.org...

[edit on 16-8-2006 by Gazrok]


Ladies and gentleman, we have our #1 debunker on the thread... coming with quite imaginative explanations to all your UFO sightings. Welcome Gazrok with applause please.

That's gotta be one of funniest debunking attempt i'v seen in these forums in 2 months. At least ATS got some entertaining value.

Edit: Fixed typo.
[edit on 18-8-2006 by Toc]

[edit on 18-8-2006 by Toc]


Toc

posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by nullster

Originally posted by Zeratulhahaha

Must say that secretary of defense is an idiot cause he gave the video first to a ufo investigator instead of real researchers.


You know that comment might be dismissed off hand by many here but I agree with that 100%

If people really want unbiased, critical, and objective analysis of UFO footage they will arrange to have the video reviewed by someone who doesn't have an invested interest in propagating the phenomenon. Truth is they want it to be a UFO and therefore seek someone out who will justify their claims.

With that the same applies to doctors specializing in Alien abduction hypnotic therapy. Both the patient and doctor are inclined to believe/accept other wordly involvement. The conclusions are rarely ever a surprise.

Ohh well ....



[edit on 18-8-2006 by nullster]


Who's that?
You can find someone neutral to the ET phenomenon? I don't think so.
Who do you seek when you have car problems? Or Health problem? You go see a specialist. I think i would have done the same thing. Gone to the guy that knows the most about the subject.



posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by Toc
Ladies and gentleman, we have our #1 debunker on the thread... coming with quite imaginative explanations to all your UFO sightings. Welcome Gazrok with applause please.

That's gotta be one of funniest debunking attempt i'v seen in these forums in 2 months. At least ATS got some entertaining values.

[edit on 18-8-2006 by Toc]


because only one viewpoint is allowed here.


Toc

posted on Aug, 18 2006 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by homeskillet

Originally posted by Toc
Ladies and gentleman, we have our #1 debunker on the thread... coming with quite imaginative explanations to all your UFO sightings. Welcome Gazrok with applause please.

That's gotta be one of funniest debunking attempt i'v seen in these forums in 2 months. At least ATS got some entertaining values.

[edit on 18-8-2006 by Toc]


because only one viewpoint is allowed here.


Now, i'm just a little upset when i see people giving debunking explanations before examining the presented material. The video can be a fake or real, but, Those 11 points of light are not flying refinery flames.



posted on Aug, 19 2006 @ 12:51 AM
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Here we go again. If the lights recorded by the FLIR camera and detected by the Bravo radar
were just oil flames in the ocean then why those lights have not appeared again in a 29 months period ?

Use you common sense and dare to answer. Thank you.



posted on Aug, 19 2006 @ 12:55 AM
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Just a matter of my personal opinion, but a UFO would give the Mexican forces more credibility than they would it.



posted on Aug, 20 2006 @ 07:11 AM
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Access Denied. Your posting name sums up your purpose here. A government doesn't stand behind oil flames. Please venture somewhere where your crumbled opinions are desired. Thank you!



posted on Aug, 20 2006 @ 07:25 AM
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Thanks for the info. FreeSpirit i thought there was more to this than oil rigs. There's also the fact that they all just dissapeared off radar oil rigs dont do this do they? I mean just all stop at the same time and not come back on in time period sufficient for the captain to think the crafts had gone.



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