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Suspect has been arrested in the JonBenet Ramsey Case

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posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 12:02 PM
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Whether he did it or not, and I don't believe he did, the parents were still involved. There were marks on the victim which appeared to be signature marks from a "stun gun". The speculation was that this was used to "subdue" her for the intended abductcion. The reason that this is bull spit is that "stun guns", or ERDs, do not knock anyone out. What they will do is make the victim scream. She was tortured in that house, and there was no way that if an ERD was used that she would be quiet. Kind of ruins the whole "sneak in, abduct her, and sneak back out" thing. Just as the new nut-job went to Bangkok for all the wrong reasons, I never trusted Jon Benet's dad's excused for going to Amsterdam.




posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by djohnsto77

Originally posted by lombozo
Oh boy - here I go again.
We have this guy. He admitted it. He did it.
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HE DID IT! Why not just execute him immediately?


We don't know that he did it, it may seem crazy but people admit to crimes they didn't commit all the time. There's no evidence that he ever came in contact with this family or ever visited Boulder CO in his life. He seemed to have gotten a bizarre obsession with the case and may have even convinced himself he did it even though he didn't.

I'm not saying he didn't do it, I have no idea...but don't you think it's best to be sure? If we just summarily execute this guy, we may be leaving a child-killer on the street.


Touche`! While I completely disagree with your point of view, I have a hard time finding fault with your beliefs. You make a very valid point.


I'm going to have to read up a little more on this, but I thought he did know the Ramsey family. Still I say - execute him, and ALL of the monsters that hands down, no questions asked did the crimes they are accused of.

I do hope that this "things" capture gives relief to the Ramsey family. I cannot even imagine how horrible these past 10 years have been for the family.
Rest In Peace JonBenet.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by DDay
His story is already beginning to show holes in it such as he says he drugged her then had sex with her and then oops she accidently got strangled.


Furthermore, from what I heard, toxicology showed no drugs in her system.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 12:46 PM
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Karr's ex-wife, Lara Karr, told KGO-TV in California that she does not believe her former husband killed JonBenet because he was with her in Alabama at the time.
Source


Of course, you have to be a little crazy to commit that murder, but is he just a nutjob that may be claiming he is the one? That is another reason why you don't "just execute him." There are nutjobs that go into precincts every day and just admit to doing all sorts of things that aren't true.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 12:50 PM
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Like I said before I think he got off on the case but was never directly involved.
He strikes me as liking the kinky side of life and gets his thrills through others deviant behaviour.
I agree with a previous post in saying that he probably followed this case and convinced himself that he either was involved or needed to take his perverse obsession to the next level and admit to the killing to absorb the thrill. Plus the exposure is a huge turn on for him.

IMO



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 01:11 PM
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I think that the police has to have more evidence than him just saying he did it. there has been alot of people that were under supsicion thru out the years and no one was ever arrested. why him?? unless he said things that were directly involved with the case that no one else would have known unless they were at the murder scene.

police have been following this guy for months . its not like the guy came forward and said " i did it, arrest me" there was a reason that he was being followed. he didnt even know he was being investigated until they arrested him.

im out
-mindtrip02



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 01:12 PM
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Karr's ex-eife, Lara Karr, told KGO-TV in california
that she was with her former husband in Alabama at the time of JonBenet's killing

and she does not believe her former husband was involved in the homocide

www.charter.net...


the link above, has a in-custody pic of the man, and i say there is a L.H.Oswald flavor to this image.
there's also an Audio Link next to the photo

imho, the man is playing the system, his remarks just gush with subjective incriminating words....he's just using the JonBenet cold-case as a means to
be extradited to Colorado, USA

in a week after setting foot in the safety of the US, the charges will be dropped as it's determined he's loony (or a genius in manipulation schemes)

[edit on 17-8-2006 by St Udio]



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 01:28 PM
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First I'd like to say that it's sort of sad that no matter how inciteful and prudent Nitboy's posts can be I can't read anything he posts without laughing my tuchas off...I won't elaborate...he knows why.


But I would like to elaborate on what Niteboy and other members have said. I agree that people who haven't committed heinous crimes confess to them frequently. I've been watching the footage of this guy on the "perp walk" and from the way he answers and his demeanor this seems like a pretty odd fellow to me.

I know of course a disturbed man would commit or confess to this crime but I get the feeling that he did not do this actually crime. I do however get the feeling (just gut mind you) that he committed similar crimes and while it will be proven eventually that he did not kill John Benet that he did in fact molest or molest and murder child(ren) in the past.

Not a prediction just a gut reaction from watiching him.

I don't know if the Ramsey's were involved, though I'll admit to assuming that for the past ten years but I just think there is something wrong here.

He keeps saying he loved her and the murder was an accident but as more and more details of the case become released what happened to this child the way she was murdered and abused seems very brutal.

I don't want to post anything in the thread that would upset people but if you've been paying attention to the case in the past 24 hours the details are disturbing indeed.

This was a crime of anger, rage and violence not an accidental murder committed by a sick individual who thought he was in love.

He will confess to a similar heinous crime(s) but will not be found guilty or to be involved in any way with this murder. IMO of course.

It'll move pretty quick from here from how they're moving on the story at CNN and other cable networks who are far too excited about this sad, sad story.

I still think it's possible that someone in that family was involved, wether it was the deceased mother, the still living father or possibly someone close in the family.

I would also have sniffed around those who work in the very creepy child pageant business.

Again, just opinion based on what I've been seeing and hearing.

Spiderj



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 01:35 PM
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Does anyone know the charges he had in thailand and what the penalty would be?
As maybe mentions already this talk is for extradition?



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by masonite
Does anyone know the charges he had in thailand and what the penalty would be?
As maybe mentions already this talk is for extradition?


I believe he is being extradited on the jean benet charges and that they made the arrest now due to his recent statements about the case and for safety reasons because he had just gotten a job as a second grade teacher in thailand.

I do not believe he had any charges in thailand. He was convicted in 2001 for posession of child pornography and fled to thailand after that.

I could be wrong as I'm simply stating what has been presented on CNN.

Spiderj



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:04 PM
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I remember hearing some speculation about charges in Thailand as well, but I'm searching to firm that up. If he was under suspicion for something there, he may be pulling all of this out of his but to keep from going to a Thai prison.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Spiderj
First I'd like to say that it's sort of sad that no matter how inciteful and prudent Nitboy's posts can be I can't read anything he posts without laughing my tuchas off...I won't elaborate...he knows why.

*bows*


Not a prediction just a gut reaction from watiching him.

I was looking at that, too. He doesn't look serious enough to me. I don't know why, but I keep having these Boy George-esque vibes from him. Is it just me that thinks he is wearing makeup? I'm sorry, but a man that age should be showing more pores. I know it may seem small and silly, but I really think something is not right with this guy and I don't think it's all out in the open yet.



He keeps saying he loved her and the murder was an accident but as more and more details of the case become released what happened to this child the way she was murdered and abused seems very brutal.

I don't want to post anything in the thread that would upset people but if you've been paying attention to the case in the past 24 hours the details are disturbing indeed.

Yeah, it isn't exactly what you accidentally do to someone that you love. Not at all. :shk:



I still think it's possible that someone in that family was involved, wether it was the deceased mother, the still living father or possibly someone close in the family.

Maybe now that the mother is deceased, he felt he could expose his side of the part? Maybe she was involved, but he didn't want to get her in trouble? (Sorry, I am a conspiracy theorist after all.)


I would also have sniffed around those who work in the very creepy child pageant business.

Trust me there is sniffing going on. You know they have conventions where they discuss this whole murder? I know some people across the river from where I live that are absolutely obsessed with it and go to these conventions. They have like a study dedicated to this and do background checks/whatnot.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:14 PM
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Dude needs to mix in a few trips to McDonalds or something. That picture of him and his neck is freakin' me out.

Let's not forget one other thing, this dude supposedly broke into the Ramsey house while they were home and did all this without anybody hearing him. Not impossible, but unlikely.

I wonder if the mother was offed for a reason.

Peace



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:17 PM
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Here is link to crimelibrary.com with a supposed sketch released by the Ramseys that was revealed to them by a psychic.

www.crimelibrary.com...

This just indicates to me that they knew Karr. He is claiming to have spent a Christmas at their house, though this claim may be just as insane as some of this others. As has been mentioned before, he may have been waiting for the death of the mother to come forward and tell the whole story.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:19 PM
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I'd first like to correct my earlier post by saying that he was not convicted of being in possesion of child pornography but evidently fled after being charged with child porn. Don't know if it was possession or worse.



He doesn't look serious enough to me. I don't know why, but I keep having these Boy George-esque vibes from him.


It's those Crazy Person eyes of his. That dead thousand yard stare like the shark from Jaws. "...a sharks got dead lifeless eyes..."



Trust me there is sniffing going on. You know they have conventions where they discuss this whole murder? I know some people across the river from where I live that are absolutely obsessed with it and go to these conventions. They have like a study dedicated to this and do background checks/whatnot.


Wow, I had absolutely no idea there was that much intense interest in the case still going on. Thanks for that NB.

Spiderj



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Spiderj

Originally posted by masonite
Does anyone know the charges he had in thailand and what the penalty would be?
As maybe mentions already this talk is for extradition?


I believe he is being extradited on the jean benet charges and that they made the arrest now due to his recent statements about the case and for safety reasons because he had just gotten a job as a second grade teacher in thailand.

I do not believe he had any charges in thailand. He was convicted in 2001 for posession of child pornography and fled to thailand after that.

I could be wrong as I'm simply stating what has been presented on CNN.

Spiderj


he TRIED to get a job as a teacher in thailand. i dont think they clarified if he was actually working as a teacher there.( unless a new devlopment came up in the past couple hours.) he was never indicted in thailand for anything. the reason the thailand govt. even started watching him and cooperating with the u.s. is because u.s. officials called and explained that he was a murder suspect in a high profile murder case. then the thailand people revoked his visa. ( because he was wanted from the u.s, not for anything he did there.


im out
-mindtrip02



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:26 PM
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Wow, I had absolutely no idea there was that much intense interest in the case still going on. Thanks for that NB.

Spiderj


I didn't either until I knew these people. They were mega obsessed and loved me when they discovered that a suspect lived in my apartment! It was like bringing a live Klingon to a Trekkie Convention.

I just hope that they get to the bottom of this, and that if he is indeed lying about it all, that they book him with every law they legally can and give him some time in jail anyhow. There are a lot of people that were very affected by this and deserve not to be toyed with when it comes to subjects such as these.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:37 PM
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by mindtrip02
he TRIED to get a job as a teacher in thailand. i dont think they clarified if he was actually working as a teacher there


It has been reported on CNN that he had been hired as a second grade teacher in thailand but was arrested before his first day of work...so I guess it was a recent hire.

His been in the country for a while though so I don't know what other jobs - if any -he had in Thailand. But again, I certainly haven't been following the case and am only going on what CNN says.


by NIteboy82
I didn't either until I knew these people. They were mega obsessed and loved me when they discovered that a suspect lived in my apartment! It was like bringing a live Klingon to a Trekkie Convention.


Actually I'm pretty intrigued by that....whadya know.

Extra points for finding a way to squeeze a Star Trek reference in there



by Nitboy82
I just hope that they get to the bottom of this, and that if he is indeed lying about it all, that they book him with every law they legally can and give him some time in jail anyhow. There are a lot of people that were very affected by this and deserve not to be toyed with when it comes to subjects such as these.


Is it a crime to falsely confess? Obstruction of justice perhaps? But I do agree about the affect this crime has most assuredly had on the family and community.

Though I'm still wonky on the family...hey I'm a conspiracist too after all.

Spiderj



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:40 PM
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posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:53 PM
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Hello All

I was listening to a Local Station in Toronto, and there was indications he was arrested for Pornography Charges as well as some Child "Matters" that did not get elaborated upon further than suggesting it was a Life Sentance. Which it seems a lot of sentances are in Thialand. Whether that was Life or Punishment of Death, which is still life, was not quite clear either.

But I would also agree, that here, the tale is that Her Parents knew this was coming to a head, and the Suspect situation was addressed with the Ramsey's prior to her mother passing. At least that would be some relief for her, going thru the situations she faced medically.

As for the Parents, and speculation based upon the MSM and the GUILTY VERDICT placed upon the Ramsey's from the begining, is the difficult thing I have with this whole situation.

The Press WHORED this poor young lady. They made Billions exploiting her. Billions speculating and fixating on every possible things that "COULD" have been done to her, and leveled their verdict solely on the shoulder of the Ramsey's and blamed them directly for her death. Even now, here in this Post, this is again occuring, and there was never any evidence to base this upon.

CIRCUMSTANCIAL EVIDENT is not Court Material. If you would argue otherwise, ask O.J. Simpson for his view. (IT's A VALID ONE)

And I know, the driving part of this was dwelling on the Video, of this little Girl partaking in Pagentry's. Some how concocting some premise that because she was doing this sort of activity, it led to her death.

I would completely agree, it "COULD" have been something to consider, IF AND ONLY IF, prior to her death, there was a record of maybe 6 or 10 little girls being found dead, PRIOR TO THAT BOXING DAY 10 YEARS AGO, and maybe 14 or 19 more since then.

Then yes, there is a Valid Point to be made. Circumstancial still, but Valid none the less.

But where is this evidence????? Exactly. There is none, nor ever has been any, but this did little to stop the PRESS and MSM from lambasting this family which had a Daughter ripped from their lives. This had nothing to do with what she was doing. It was a freak, that should be given a Choice today, Sparky or a slug in the Skull.

Today I heard he father comment.

No Comment was offered other than to express, it is the duty of the Courts, and not the Press (as was done to them) to sentance a suspect.

Now I would be quite stupid to believe this will EVER OCCUR, but I strongly believe the CRIMINAL LIBERAL PRESS owe the Ramsey's Apologies out the YingYang. And if the Conviction of this Freak, (who was an educator of students in Atlanta, from what we have heard,) they, (The Criminal Liberal Press) should be sued for defamation of charater by this young girls father.

But it is nice to see that some closure may come from this terrible crime, and hopefully the person who did this will be convicted due to EVIDENCE, unlike the Ramsey's, who where accused and villified, by the ones how could have offered assistance, but where too concerned with their own bottomline.

Sorry I ranted, but it just irks excrement from me, when crap like this occurs, and the one's claiming this poor little girl was used by other's, actually in truth where the only one's using her were the one's pointing the finger. The Bastard Pimping Press that it is!

Reminds me of the Waco Spin. (Bastard Whoring Press or more common MSM)

Ciao

Shane



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