Can I just start off by noting that its amazing the peopel were arguing about whether the earth was warming for years, but now we're saying that
we've been able to show that a handful of other planets are?
Originally posted by Muaddib
This is a fact that not many people know about, and quite a few people, would like that there was no evidence to back this fact, because some people
would like the world to believe that human activity is the cause for global warming on Earth.
Who?
Who are you contending is covering up scientific evidence in order to protect the idea that earth's warming is because of increases in greenhouse
gases?
Scientists?
In my numerical simulations, the loss of the vortices results in a global temperature change of about 10 K
This is a change in temperature as a result of atmospheric dynamics on jupiter. It has nothing to do with greenhouse gases on earth. It does not
suggest an alternative solar system wide driver of the current terrestrial temperature increase.
If the Sun is the cause for global warming in the solar system, as some scientists say, why is it that Pluto, the planet that is the farthest
away from the Sun, experiencing the most severe effects, and it is getting worse and worse as it orbits away from the sun?
Because distance from the sun is not the only factor that affects the amount of heat absorbed from the sun. This is why winter isn't defined by
distance from the sun.
biocab.org...
Why are these guys being cited as authorities, and other researchers who are trained in climate related sciences and do research in it being
ignored?
biocab.org...
We [...make] available biological information to non-scientists through the description of the methods of science in a clear and ease way[...]We are
against pseudoscience, fake science, antiscience, solipsism, cultural relativism, non-science and dogmatism.
[...] WE ARE NOT PHYSICIANS, NATURISTS, OR HERBORISTS. BIOCAB IS NOT A CLINICAL LABORATORY.
If they have a theory as to what is driving the current increase, then they should submit it to at least a moderately well respected research journal.
If they have, and their paper was rejected because it was garbage, then I suppose that they'd have to put it up on a webpage.
biocab.org... Graphics clearly shows that there is not a link between the Global Warming and the increase of
Carbon Dioxide in the Atmosphere.
There is both a warming trend and an increase in global atmospheric concentrations of CO2.
instead, we can see a clear relation between Solar Activity (green undashed line) and Global Warming
I don't see it in that graph.
Is the solar system entering a nearby interstellar cloud
This is from a paper from 1978. There has been no more research on this possible cloud??
www.spaceref.com...
The stardust itself is very fine ? just one-hundredth of the width of a human hair. It is unlikely to have much effect on the planets
As can be seen, the Earth is not the only planet undergoing global warming, and human activity is not the cause of global warming in the Solar
System, nor on Earth.
Based on a paper from 1978 and a couple of guys that explain biology to lay people??? I'm sorry, but the evidence presented does not support that
the increase of greenhouse gas is not the cause of the increase in temperature. You have not demostrated that there is a warming trend throughout the
solar system either, nor that the warming on earth, mars, jupter, and pluto are caused by the same thing.
It is way too much of a coincidence, and even the sun is heating up more than it has in 1,000 years.
Please present the data that shows a correlation between solar output of the sun and increased earthly temperature. And then, please explain why
that correlation is supposed to be more beleiveable than the correlation between CO2 increase and temperature increase.
Whats more reasonable, that the sun is going nuts, and all of the climatologists are keeping quite about it, or that increases of global
concentrations of greenhouse gases are causing it???
but this shows that even if we stop every single car, every single factory and if every single human stopped using AC global warming will
continue at the same pace it is going.
It shows no such thing.
they found that for example in the middle ages there was also global warming
Those guys made no such discovery. Its called the Medeival Warm Period, it was known about long before those guys came along.
The effects of warming, or the changes, will be felt more on planets with atmosphere, or astral bodies such as the Sun because their magnetic
fields and atmospheres interact with the high energy region the solar system is going through as we speak.
Please first demonstrate that we are going through such a region.
www.telegraph.co.uk...
Claims that man-made pollution is causing "unprecedented" global warming have been seriously undermined by new research which shows that the Earth
was warmer during the Middle Ages.
All that shows is that the people at the Telegraph are a few years behind on their climate science. Researchers have known for a long time that
climate varies greatly and has varied in the historical period.
bothered
This is true with the increase in solar flare activity.
The solar flare cycle is a variable 11 year cycle. It does not explain the long term trend in global warming.
wolfofwar
With it growing, the heat and radiation source gets closer to use, and therefore it gets hotter and stronger.
There is no increase in the sun that explains the current warming trend.
jumpspace
In 2012 we'll pass the dead centre of the galactic plane. This is what I believe is responsible for this.
Please explain why. Please explain why that makes more sense than the warming being caused by increases of greenhouse gases.
skadi
As far as the middle ages go, it was not global warming then, it was a mini Ice Age.
Both occured. There was a warming period, and at another time there was a little ice age.
xphilesphan
I think this effectively ends the peseudo-scientific "global warming based on pollution theory"
Please explain how. We have some other planets that have a short term warming trend being observed. Why are the scientists that note this trend
correct, but the scientists that don't accept that this means there is a solar warming event count?
westpoint23
Climate changes from time to time, it has happened in the past, and human activity was not the reason for it
The big problem is, none of the reasons for those other warming events is causing this one. Climate varies, from hot house to cold house, and many of
the drivers of climate are understood, the tilt of the planets axis, for example, or the amount of 'albedo', which is the reflectiveness of the
earth (more reflection, less heat), etc. They do not explain the current warming trend.
So I think things might go back to a normal stable climate, but this could take centuries, or millennia
Or it could get warmer and warmer, year after year, and have disastrous effects on agriculture, society, and the basic factors that affect the
distribution of real power across the planet.
