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The Whole Solar System is Undergoing Global Warming.


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reply posted on 8-5-2007 @ 12:30 AM by Muaddib



Originally posted by melatonin
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Now if you want to account for glacial cycles, GHG effects are required. Same for the most recent period of warming.



Not when many of those proxies you like to use so much don't show the RWP, the MWP or the LIA while others claim these climate change events were not global or that the RWP and the MWP were less warm than the alte 20th century when dozens of research done by other scientists shows these two events were warmer than the lat 20th century....



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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 03:13 AM by puzzled2


I know tha this might seem to be off topic, but bear with me a minute.

The suns orbit around the milky is supposed to take 226 million years. according to this link

and the earth is about 4,54 billion years old it must have done the loop several times before. Problem for me is the assumptiom that milky way itself isn't in orbit.

If this too was on an orbit I would assume it would be a pretty large one that took what a few billion years or longer?

Find if difficult to grasp also the concept of heat in a vacumm that would be mappable to the degree some have suggested.



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reply posted on 14-10-2007 @ 04:55 AM by St Udio



Originally posted by puzzled2
Problem for me is the assumptiom that milky way itself isn't in orbit.

If this too was on an orbit I would assume it would be a pretty large one that took what a few billion years or longer?





our milky way galaxy is not in an 'orbit', but is has a motion in space,
the milky way galaxy is on a collision course with the ?Andromena? galaxy

measuring light frequency tells scientists the direction of our motion, and other observations of movement of further, distant galaxies indicate that galaxies tend to group themselves in larger 'structures'...
rather than moving in 'orbits'



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reply posted on 5-4-2008 @ 08:26 PM by Good Wolf


I showed these documents to a friend recently who debated for hours and hours with me previously on the subject. The conclusion we came in the privious debate was that there was not enough evidence in general to take the blame off man. It felt good to show him this and he changed his mind on the whole idea of human-influenced-climate-change. Finally some truth.



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reply posted on 7-4-2008 @ 09:28 AM by seridium


The Real Cause of Global Warming (maximum emissions activity 23/12/2012)

After reading this article Scientists Now Know: We're Not From Here! and learning that it seems our
The Sun will be crossing the ecliptic which will be aligned also with the milky way galaxy at around 2012 just like the Mayan calender portrays.


Here is a full view of the sky at noon on December 21st, 2012 A.D. The band of the Milky Way can be seen stretching from the lower right to the upper left. The more or less vertical dotted line indicates the Galactic Equator. The planets can be seen tracing a roughly horizontal path through the chart, indicating the ecliptic. The sun, quite strikingly, is dead center in the Sacred Tree. Let's look closer.

image source: http://edj.net/mc2012/chart1.gif

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The field is now reduced from a horizon-to-horizon view to a field of 30 degrees. Part of the constellation of Sagittarius can be seen in the lower left portion of the chart. The planet in the middle-to-upper left portion of the chart is Pluto, which rarely travels directly along the ecliptic. The center square near the sun is placed on the Trifid Nebula (M20). According to the star chart I used, this nebula is very close to the crossing point of Galactic Equator and ecliptic. However, a small star (4 Sgr) is even closer; it sits right on the Galactic Equator and its declination is only 00 .08' below the ecliptic. Let's look closer at these features.

image source: http://edj.net/mc2012/chart2.gif

image source: edj.net...
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This entails our Sun will be at maximum solar capacity which leads me to believe that this could be the cause to our so called global warming.

It seems that this is the real reason for global warming since higher energy levels of the Milky Way are almost certain to cause our Sun to burn hotter and emit higher energies. Temperatures have been seen to rise on virtually all the planets in our system. This seems quite apart from any local phenomenon like greenhouse gases etc.


You can read here about the other changes happening in our solar system.

Other changes happening in our system

The "marriage" of our birth galaxy with our new adopted Milky Way galaxy is causing energy shifts that are obvious just about everywhere. Here are some changes being watched by scientists:

* A growth of dark spots on Pluto.

* Reporting of auroras on Saturn.

* Reporting of Uranus and Neptune polar shifts (They are magnetically conjugate planets), and the abrupt large-scale growth of Uranus' magnetosphere intensity.

* A change in light intensity and light spot dynamics on Neptune.

* The doubling of the magnetic field intensity on Jupiter (based upon 1992 data), and a series of new states and processes observed on this planet as an aftermath of a series of explosions in July 1994 [caused by "Comet" SL-9]. That is, a relaxation of a plasmoid train which excited the Jovian magnetosphere, thus inducing excessive plasma generation and it's release in the same manner as Solar coronal holes inducing an appearance of radiation belt brightening in decimeter band (13.2 and 36 cm), and the appearance of large auroral anomalies and a change of the Jupiter - Io system of currents.

Update Note: A stream of ionized hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, etc. is being directed to Jupiter from the volcanic areas of Io through a one million amperes flux tube. It is affecting the character of Jupiter's magnetic process and intensifying it's plasma genesis.[Z.I.Vselennaya "Earth and Universe" N3, 1997 plo-9 by NASA data]

* A series of Martian atmosphere transformations increasing its biosphere quality. In particularly, a cloudy growth in the equator area and an unusual growth of ozone concentration.

Update Note: Mars Surveyor Satellite encountered an atmospheric density double that projected by NASA upon entering a Mars orbit. This greater density bent one of the solar array arms beyond the full and open stop. This combination of events has delayed the beginning of the scheduled photo mission for one year.

* A first stage atmosphere generation on the Moon, where a growing natrium atmosphere is detected that reaches 9,000 km in height.

* Significant physical, chemical and optical changes observed on Venus; an inversion of dark and light spots detected for the first time, and a sharp decrease of sulfur-containing gases in its atmosphere.

* A Change in the Quality of Interplanetary Space Towards an Increase in Its Interplanetary and Solar-Planetary Transmitting Properties.

When speaking of new energetic and material qualities of interplanetary space, we must first point out the increase of the interplanetary domains energetic charge, and level of material saturation. This change of the typical mean state of interplanetary space has two main causes:

* The supply/inflow of matter from interstellar space. (Radiation material, ionized elements, and combinations.)

* The after effects of Solar Cycle 22 activity, especially as a result of fast coronal mass ejection's [CME's] of magnetized solar plasmas.

What does it all mean?

We of the overarching Sagittarius Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy have finally come down next to, and even with the massively powerful spiral armed equatorial plane of the Milky Way Galaxy.

In our movement through space, our Earth has now fully begun to respond to the more powerful galactic energies and electro-gravitational bias of the massive Milky Way. We have reached the higher energy equatorial disc region of the massive spiral arm. We have now been "adopted" by a new system, a stronger and more powerful system, and we can expect changes on almost every level of energy.

Whatever these changes are, they are all part of the natural birth, death, rebirth and transformation of the cosmos. As our knowledge of the universe grows, we cannot but understand how much we do not understand. Such is life.
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All this could explain why there have been such things like snow in Africa, mysterious clouds spray the sky with light, weird weather, and many other damaging things happening on our planet, I can personally tell the sun is hotter this year than last year it cooks my skin twice as fast.
I do believe us humans are not helping the matter by adding so much Co2 to the air and creating a even faster global warming effect, but I am sure we are in for some harsh time ahead it could be the reason why the USA and Britain are so gung ho for Total Control of the masses and it could also explain all there secret Under Ground Citys, Facilities and shelters.
underground Britain
underground Britain 2
Many more underground cities
I am sure most know about the Denver airport and its rumors that the Queen of England bought alot of land around the same area where the airport was built with its 5billion dollar underground *Secret* Base.Denver Airport explained here
ATS thread about the Denver airport. Thread here

Now my questions is why do they not talk about this kind of scientific evidence in the media?



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reply posted on 15-4-2008 @ 05:44 PM by yuwing


Okay, so there's warming the solar system. Does that mean people are not involved? With all the green house gases we are putting out (compared to the last century), radiation is being kept within the planet and not being reflected effectively. 1-2 degree difference in temperature has drastic effects on the coral reefs which is an ecosystem (for fishes) and storm buffer on its own.

you may say, Earth was warmer previously at the same temperatures and it survived, what's wrong with it now? Well change in temperature is RAPID. There isn't enough time for species to adapt through evolution and may become extinct.

So who are we to blame earth's global warming on natural occurance and being blind to the fact that we are accelerating the rate of warming which endangers the lives of people, animal species and the environment?

Who is guilty of being ignorant? really now.

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reply posted on 15-4-2008 @ 09:06 PM by SlyCM (work)




Okay, so there's warming the solar system. Does that mean people are not involved?


Well, it's a strong indicator...



1-2 degree difference in temperature has drastic effects on the coral reefs which is an ecosystem (for fishes) and storm buffer on its own.


Global warming, per se, will not threaten coral reefs. In 1998 (if memory serves) there was some bleaching, but this was due to an unusually strong El Nino effect. Corals are capable of switching their symbiotic algae to a more heat tolerant species, and as such can handle some warming. Even if they couldn't, they would simply spread northwards, bringing their unfathomable diversity with them.



you may say, Earth was warmer previously at the same temperatures and it survived, what's wrong with it now? Well change in temperature is RAPID. There isn't enough time for species to adapt through evolution and may become extinct.


No, they won't. The only species currently under threat by global warming per se are those living near the high arctic, which represents a limited spectrum. Most other species stand to gain, especially as rainforests expand from the extra CO2 and and humidity associated with high temperatures. Regardless, the planet has not been warming for a decade now.



So who are we to blame earth's global warming on natural occurance and being blind to the fact that we are accelerating the rate of warming which endangers the lives of people, animal species and the environment?


Right, who are we to blame the Earth for regulating it's own climate? I mean really... would you rather it be colder? In the last ice ages, deserts expanded and rainforests turned to grassland. Not good for diversity. Warm periods, on the other hand, are associated with a flourishing biosphere.



Who is guilty of being ignorant? really now.


Not I, sir. I just form a conclusion based on the given evidence. I am by no means alone, either.



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