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Racial Profiling Of Muslims

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posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 12:53 PM
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Jamuhn yours is faulse

www.islamicity.com...
for people that want actual verses for the quran in english




posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 01:17 PM
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Sarcasm is the underlying force with my posts here. First of all, i dont believe Bush. I dont beleive 10 planes were going to be blown up. I dont beleive anything of that boogey nature at all. Its all a lie. Go read some of the stuff that has come out- the cell phones purchases..... Its all a freaking joke.


I know dg I know, when I heard the news about it . . . I felt the same is all a big propaganda BS.

Republicans wants to keep the hold on congress, fear worked for them very well after 9/11 and fear is the preferred choice of politics today.

Then no only all the fear tactics have been used they were bringing so timely more tapes of calls from 9/11.

Is just a big joke and people don’t get it.

Give them the topic with a littler big of hot sauce issue and they will debate until their hair falls out of their head.

And still they will play alone, just like is expected, our government is becoming very predictable and the reaction of the population is more so.

GET IT People.

Terror has been around they will always hurt somebody Innocent and they only knows intimidation.

And they will always be around, war on terror or no.

Is politics, dirty nasty and corrupted.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 01:31 PM
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I know, heck we all know that there are MANY muslims with good souls, who want only to practice their religion and make as good a life as possible for their families - just like you and me. The fact does remain though - that the overwhelming majority of terror related incidents are devised, planned, and carried out by muslims. It is for this reason that I do not disagree with profiling. Let's face it we've all been profiled at one point or another. Remember being a teenager, and going into a store with a couple of your friends? Guess what - you were profiled, and watched and probably followed. My friends and I all had long hair, dressed in jeans, flannel shirts, and engineer boots. More often than not we reeked of weed. I was profiled everywhere I went. BFD. I could care less. It didn't effect me adversely in any way. If you have nothing to hide - then what's the big deal. If you don't like being profiled, then you need to clean up "your own back yard". In other words police your own people. If your particular group isn't responsible for what the profiling is set up for, then you won't be profiled. So help to take the stereotype away. How? Again, think about your own neighborhoods. For the most part everybody in the neighborhood knows who is "The Bad Egg". Do you do anything about it? No, for the most part we just turn a blind eye to the deeds being done by these people. They might be selling drugs, breaking and entering, petty theft....etc.... and the majority of people never do a darn thing about it. When you see, or hear anything, call the authorities, even if it's anonymously. Can you honestly say that if you get on a plane and you see several other passengers who are Muslim that a wave of doubt is not going to go through your mind? Even if it is just for an instant. That kiddies is racial profiling.
Sorry, but it does make sense. I am not speaking of harrassment - that is an entirely different entity - and true harrassment is absolutely wrong.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 01:31 PM
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Surely racism is an illogical predjudice based on nothing more than a persons ethnicity/culture.

This on the other hand is based on known facts that certain ethnic/cultural groups foster unknowingly or knowingly within their communities individuals who are a major threat to the safety of air travellers. That's not illogical at all, it may not be a perfect failsafe method either as not all muslims fit the accepted racial stereotype but it's as good as we can get in trying to minimise the threat.

Yes it stinks and it's unfair but until someone comes up with a better method that's ultimate aim is to ensure I or my loved ones don't get blown out of the sky rather than appeasing sections of the community, I can't think what else we can do.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:09 PM
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I have yet to see a single response to any of my posts in this thread. I've been trying (as usual) to be the moderate voice in a heated debate, and trying to raise some valid points for both sides to consider, but all I'm seeing are the same posts back and forth.

"It's racist!"

or, alternately

"No it's not! Muslims wanna kill us!"

Am I truly the only person who sees a middle ground in all this?



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by bodrul
www.islamicity.com...
for people that want actual verses for the quran in english


What you linked is what is translated by Abdullah Yusufali.

What I quoted was from the same guy!, just referenced from a different website.

SnowDevil was the one posting the incorrect translations in an attempt to demonize Islam, maybe you were confused.

[edit on 17-8-2006 by Jamuhn]



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Jamuhn
C'mon guy, you aren't that dense are you?


What you linked is what is translated by Abdullah Yusufali.

What I quoted was from the same guy!, just referenced from a different website.

SnowDevil was the one posting the incorrect translations in an attempt to demonize Islam, maybe you were confused.


then i stand corrected



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:30 PM
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What wrong with you people!
There are "terrorist muslims" who want to kill you!
I'm not sure what they look like, but i'm pretty darn sure they wear robes. And have beards. Oh and are dark skinned. YEAH!
Even though there is a 1 in a billion chance that the "muslim" up there is a terrorist, it doesnt matter! THEY WILL KILL YOU! Be scared and be vigilant, and if we have to, we will strip search every muslim this side of the equator, but whatever you do, know this: MUSLIMS WANT TO KILL YOU!!
So what, If you have to sacrifice your morales as a human, so be it, because you never know when the next TERRORIST strike will be!






[edit on 17-8-2006 by xEphon]



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by xEphon
What wrong with you people!
There are "terrorist muslims" who want to kill you!
Even though there is a 1 in a million chance that the "muslim" up there is a terrorist, it doesnt matter! THEY WILL KILL YOU! Be scared and be vigilant, and if we have to, we will strip search every muslim this side of the equator, but whatever you do, know this: MUSLIMS WANT TO KILL YOU!!
So what, If you have to sacrifice your morales as a human, so be it, because you never know when the next TERRORIST strike will be!

Oooglie Boooglie Whizzy Zam Zam doo dah



[edit on 17-8-2006 by xEphon]


So dehumanize every Muslim and SELF-terrorize everyone else for a "1 in a million" scenario? :shk:



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 02:36 PM
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PS. I was being sarcastic
I'm glad you got the gist of what I was trying to say though.


[edit on 17-8-2006 by xEphon]



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by notbuynit
Jews did nothing to Germany. They didn't deserve the murderous treatment they recieved. Yet I bet you are full well for the elimination of Isreal.

Like you said, I understand how a large group of people could be incited to attack innocents and back the racists. It becomes all too clear.


ok if you want to play it like that then here. Before israel became homeland for the jewish people how many "terrorist" attack were their from muslims in the middle east? how would you feel if china took alaska and said "well you didn't have many americans there at the time, so we didnt think it was a big deal to you" because thats what israel is telling them. Well we took it when there was hardly anybody there, so it must be ok.

And yes thats exactly what its like. If europe wanted to give a homeland to the jewish people, why wasn't it in europe? why was the choices, africa or middle east?

So my point is, what did the middle eastern people do that made it right to take land away from them and give it to other people?



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by Rasobasi420
Who murdered a series of young men then ate their corpses?

A middle aged white man

Who raped and strangled at least a dozen young women in Boston?

A middle aged white man

Who skinned local women and wore thier skin as a suit?

A middle aged white man

Who shot dozens of people and gave notes to the police identifying him as the Zodiac killer


Geez, you just defeated your own argument. who the hell do you think the police were looking for in all these cases - you got it, a white guy i.e., they profiled, and guess what, the profile all the time

go do a degree in criminal justice or something similar if you don't believe me.

A middle aged white man.

The list goes on and on.

Mod Edit: Fixed BB Code.

[edit on 17/8/2006 by Mirthful Me]



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by bodrul

this isnt france


also on topic and to all posters

question is the person white or asian?



answer hes white
religon doesnt discrimiate against ones race,gender and so forth. heck i seem to read most fanatics are converts to islam who come from a history of crime, they just found new ammo to use on their path to havoc.

as a asian muslim i dont see whats changed,
black and asians have always been more targeted for searches then others
its just been brodend even more to a ridicules level where it is going to isolate more youths who will see this as a attack on our faiths, hence they will go forth and take in the crap the extremists in our midsts will spew.


RICHARD REID, the above-photographed "shoe bomber" is NOT white, and that is offical. To be precise, he is half-white, half-cast, mulato or whatever. He is of the exact same ethnicity as th late great Bob Marley i.e., white english mother and black jamaican father, except that marley had a white father and black jamaican mother.

HENCE there are no photos of any CAUCASIAN islamic terrorists. So let's profile. Ignore what the limp wristed brigade say.

Mod Edit: BB Code.

[edit on 17/8/2006 by Mirthful Me]



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by grimreaper797

(1.)ok if you want to play it like that then here. Before israel became homeland for the jewish people how many "terrorist" attack were their from muslims in the middle east? how would you feel if china took alaska and said "well you didn't have many americans there at the time, so we didnt think it was a big deal to you" because thats what israel is telling them. Well we took it when there was hardly anybody there, so it must be ok.

(2.)And yes thats exactly what its like. If europe wanted to give a homeland to the jewish people, why wasn't it in europe? why was the choices, africa or middle east?

(3.)So my point is, what did the middle eastern people do that made it right to take land away from them and give it to other people?


(1.) The Israelis made a massive immigration to the land of Israel (aliyah). Aliyah has always existed, prompted by religious fervor. Between the 13th and 19th centuries, this immigration was not very significant, mostly made by zealots and believers in the upcoming messianic era.

The massive immigration prompted:
"The Balfour Declaration of 1917 asserted that the British Government "view[ed] with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people"..."it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine". "

for more information, read the History of Israel en.wikipedia.org...

(2.) Israel is the Promised Land, and has always been, ever since the Jews were expelled in large numbers.

Read up a bit on zionism
en.wikipedia.org...

(3.) They didn't do anything (to make it wrong), only later did they start the wars and further the intifadas.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 08:17 PM
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so if a group of peoples religion said alaska was the promise land, they could migrate there in masses unrestricted, then proceed to make an independent government there?



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 08:36 PM
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If the United States sold the land, and Alaska was under another government which handed it off to them. Also, if they'd turn Alaska from a snow covered tundra into an industrialised, prosperous territory. I don't think your comparison is apt, though.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by ivansusanin2
If the United States sold the land, and Alaska was under another government which handed it off to them. Also, if they'd turn Alaska from a snow covered tundra into an industrialised, prosperous territory. I don't think your comparison is apt, though.


like to show me where israel paid for the land?



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by jackvance88
HENCE there are no photos of any CAUCASIAN islamic terrorists. So let's profile. Ignore what the limp wristed brigade say.


Yes there are,


More info...
en.wikipedia.org...

If standing up for another person's rights is cowardice, then paint me yellow.



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 09:34 PM
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Muslims,....good muslims,,, need to make very vocal their displeasure of these evil muslims. Also when all these current terrorist acts and murders and bombings stop being done by muslims then they can complain about profiling



posted on Aug, 17 2006 @ 10:47 PM
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8 people worked with were killed in tower 1

alls fair in love and war

better to offend then to see the sears tower go down next, imho



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