reply to post by StellarX
I believe they [RF] have both the conventional and the strategic power to win any given war against Germany before the rest of Europe could change
much about it I am quite confident that my opinion is defensible. In fact I would argue Germany is the only continental power that really needs to be
reckoned with as a alliance of the rest [the EU] (which is a entirely fanciful idea anyways) could not in my opinion coordinate their efforts in any
significant way even if they attempted to do so. When I once again start posting the evidence I have gathered ,in such large volumes, I believe you
will be forced to change your mind and consider why the US still lacks such defenses while the RF deploys them in massive numbers and in sufficient
quantity to largely blunt a full scale US nuclear strike.
Hello Mr StellarX
I thought this thread was a wrap! Then today it pops up on my favorite list with a post by Anonymous. For reasons best known to others I cannot locate
the Anonymous post but that’s not new for me. Perhaps my ATS dues are in arrears?
Without meaning to puff your head I’ll concede you are the best informed and are best at laying out your position of any poster to this thread.
Whereas once upon a time I also read reliable publications not in wide circulation over here - the various volumes of Janes and Interavia primarily -
and some US publications such as Air Power, a monthly magazine and a few of the Navy oriented magazines of similar ilk. The American magazines gained
authority with me because the authors were mostly former field grade officers of our services. But all this I’m talking about was in the 1950s to
By the late ‘70s I was distracted by my work and frequent romantic involvements. Then came the 1989-1991 reduction of the USSR and VIOLA! the Cold
War was over. Western intelligence agencies were as surprised as the general public which ought to tell us something. Whether it was Pope JP2 or
President Reagan who won the Cold War singlehandedly, I’ll leave to their more faithful (and fanatical if not fanciful) followers to decide. Like
the current Pope I'm suspicious how the two of them survived the Nazi era in such good health.
Me being a peacenik by birth and by the late 1970s, the notion of another war involving the US was gone from our national debate. Which is why I hold
to the views I express here today.
Background. We have witnessed the rise and fall of the RF experiment in democracy. Like most countries including my own, the general populace would
trade stability, security and a level playing field for democracy any day. I have come to see America suffers from TOO MUCH democracy. So much so that
it allows the R&Fs - Rich and Famous - to dominate if not rule the country. I am now holding the Democratic Party primary ballot in my hand now. I
must choose 5 out of 14 people to represent my party in the November 4 general election. The top post is prosecutor of crimes alleged. A nearly all
powerful post having almost total discretion who is and is not prosecuted and for what crimes. The title alone reminds me of the oddly similar title
“Roman Procurator” so that both words must have the same origin? Prosecutors should never be elected. That merely puts them at the front of a mob.
I must also choose 2 judges for courts of record. Then I pick a city councilman. 1 of 17. And finally a school board member. 1 of 7. If I weren’t so
old, I’d weep that I know NONE of the candidates nor their records, nor their philosophy of governance. And I'm about to vote?
As a college educated person, who reads the local newspaper, watches the 11 PM nightly newscast and who does NOT watch a FOX channel or anything
remotely connected to Rupert Murdoch, I am uninformed about these candidates. I have read more than 100 books since moving to Florida in 2003. Aside:
I assure you I have read none of the “Left Behind” series by Tim LeHaye with more than 41 million copies sold. End. There is no single place I can
go to read about these people.
I’ve about decided to vote for the school board candidate with the name Jack Daniels for that reason alone. I drink a bit of Jack Daniels Black
Label - 100 proof whereas Green Label is 80 proof - and I’ve been to Lynchburg, TN. How’s that for casting an intelligent ballot? End.
Resume. The RF. My biggest regret is the Western Powers post 1991 policies allowed the “Russian Mafia” to gain control of 20% of the wealth of the
RF. As we have learned - or should have learned - from our Columbian experiment, you cannot make a bargain with the Devil. We are making one today as
I write in Afghanistan over heroin. Americas 2 most constant places of interest produce coc aine and heroin. Can this be a coincidence? Hey, is
this not a conspiracy board?
Let me conclude this diatribe by offering this. It requires much preparation to run-up a large country and put it into a great war. Much credit is
given to William Randolph Hearst owner of a great newspaper chain for “starting” the Spanish American War. It took 3 years for Americans to get
“ready” to enter WW 1 and a lot of help from the German submarines! Many historians date the beginning of World War 2 with Japan's invasion of
China in 1937.
History. I offer it took Hitler from the November, 1938 Kristallnacht to whip up German people into a war fever before attacking Poland in 1939. It
took another 2 years to get the German people ready for the launch of Hitler’s grand scheme - lebensraum - by attacking the Soviet Union in 1941. It
took Bush43 from 2001 to 2003 to whip up Americans for the Iraq War which I have labeled the Second Punitive Expedition to Iraq.
Conclusion. If the EU cannot adopt a constitution it cannot wage war as a single entity. Germany is the most powerful nation in the EU. France is a
close second but the French still remember Algiers not to mention 1940, as we should have remembered Vietnam but did not. And that thanks in large
part to a playboy president and agenda driven subordinates.
There is no evidence reported in the public press that the RF is in any way getting its people ready for a war. Of any description or level. Memories
of the ruinous Afghan adventure 1978-1989 are too strong. OTOH, the RF is still playing hard ball politics with its former unwilling partners in
Ukraine, Belarus and Moldova. The RF has its hands full in Georgia and Chetsnya; there may have been a mutually suitable modus operandi reached there.
The RF was publicly embarrassed over its amateurish attempt to blackmail its natural gas customers located to its west. I don’t think RF will repeat
that politico-economic blunder again soon. As to the relative strength of the US and RF (as successor to the USSR) armed forces, I cannot give much
credence to claims that the RF is formidable in the big league. There we stand alone. Well, if you don’t count China as our source of financing.
Post Script. We do not have sufficient manpower to run 2 wars at the same time. That is because we miscalculated in Iraq. If the May 1 declaration by
Bush43 on board the carrier Abraham Lincoln had proved to be correct, and not bare braggadocio then we could more easily attack Afghan today. But I am
reminded of this: Afghanistan has been invaded 100s of times but never conquered ONE time.
By and large the -stans have proved to be unmanageable by the West. Baluchistan and Kurdistan excepted. American foreign policy in the Middle East and
near ME has failed miserably under the Neo Cons. We cannot impose our hand picked regime in Baghdad. Following Bush43's loss at the polls here in
2006, Iraq’s PM Nouri al-Maliki got a much needed shot of testosterone. And it suits him well in his second incarnation. He is now asking us OUT of
Iraq. Only Bush43 and John McCain want to stay on indefinitely.
Our hand picked man in Pakistan on who we bestowed the honorary title of president, Pervez Musharraf, is being replaced. Our hand picked man in
Afghan, also labeled president, Hamid Karzai teeters from day to day, unable to establish his rule outside of Kabul. There we see 68,000 soldiers, of
which half will go home in January, 2009. The US Army Manual for Occupation indicates 350-400,000 men would be desirable to pacify a country like
Afghanistan. Our whole Army is about 400,000 men (and women).
Israel - our own cause celebre and self imposed weight to bear - lost its PM Ariel Sharon to physical calamity just before the prosecutors got him and
his son for theft, and now it looks like Ehud Olmert may have cut a deal to get out if they don’t put him in jail for stealing. It’s too bad
Bush43 did not “look them in the eye” as he once did with Vladimir Putin to perceive internal contradictions in them. I noted with some humor
Bush43 spared Dmitry Medvedev from his “evil eye” gaze and evaluation.
Last Words. I look forward to seeing our $550 b. annual defense - say war - budget cut in half! That would be too much too much to hope for but even
that would probably require the personal intervention of Jesus Christ.
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