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Originally posted by devilwasp
can women serve in a combat unit?
Can women join say the special operations groups?
posted by Dango
This Russia vs US thing is silly. Russians have stopped their expansionist program. The Russians are very nice and hospitable. I have ongoing internet relationships with several Russians and they are not different than you or I. OK where would you rather do an student exchange program for a year. With some one from Russia or someone from Iran? [Edited by Don W]
This whole armed competition thing is ridiculous. Everyone would be winners if we would focus on spending our money on joint space exploration rather than shooting our own neighbor in our backyard (being planet earth). Things change. Forget the past. Make a better future. Look how the world could view us right now? Invaded Afghanistan, took over their government, invaded Iraq, took down their governmental structure. Now tell me why a small third world country that isn’t spoon fed the controlled media that we receive in this country wouldn’t view us any different than the Soviets 25 years ago? People are people, and to cower to the leadership’s whims by asking "who has a bigger gun" only serves the political interest of violent leaders. Cheers and G'day . Dango
PS do a good deed for no reason at all . . it will make you feel better [Edited by Don W]
Originally posted by Dango
This whole Russia vs US thing is silly. The russians have stopped their expansionist program.
The people there are very nice and hospitable.
OK where would you rather do an student exchange program for a year. With some one from Russia or someone from Iran? I have ongoing internet relationships with several Russians and they are not different than you or I.
This whole armed competition thing is rediculous.
Everyone would be winners if we would focus on spending our money on joint space exploration rather than shooting our own neighbor in our backyard (being planet earth).
Things change. Forget the past.
Make a better future. Look how the world could view us right now? Invaded Afghanistan, took over their government, invaded Iraq, took down their governmental structure. Now tell me why a small third world country that isnt spoon fed the controlled media that we receive in this country wouldnt view us any different than the Soviets 25 years ago?
Just like a divorce, 2 sides to any story. These kind of threads are hateful, neanderthal and lack intelligent insight IMHO.
People are people, and to cower to the leaderships whims by asking "who has a bigger gun" only serves the politcal interest of violent leaders.
Cheers and G'day .........Dango PS do a good deed for no reason at all ....it will make you feel better
posted by StellarX
posted by Dango
This whole Russia vs US thing is silly. The Russians have stopped their expansionist program.
When was it last as nearly and openly expansionist as it's rivals in the West? [Edited by Don W]
posted by StellarX
I believe there are 'evil' people in the world who play off one population against another. . those who cannot defend themselves either politically or otherwise tend to fade into oblivion; the violence nation states continue to visit on others should serve as evidence that aggression is not going out of fashion at all . . things do not change if we do not keep the past in clear memory and perspective; if you look at how much time the true rulers of the world spend manipulating our perception of history it's clear that they consider it exceedingly important that we have a false image of it. Because they still manage their high level of control I think their ploys such as creating a distaste for it, have been quite effective. [Edited by Don W]
posted by StellarX
Your opinion [2 sides to each issue: by Dango] has been noted. I found that there are normally at LEAST three sides to any story and the more people the more sides generally . . terror works and crime pays and frankly there is a great deal of room for improvement in so called human 'civilization'.
posted by StellarX
I am a 'fan' of self interest action as a force for good. It's when we start acting in the interest of the so called 'greater good' that things start going hopelessly or mostly wrong for 99.9% of those involved. Individual self- interest is almost always acted out with moderation; it's the actions of groups that tends to err in some extreme way or another. I will eventually create a thread to discuss me ideas on the last issue in the detail that might show up it's flaws . . Stellar [Bowdlerized by Don W]
posted by INc2006
Once you look at the last 50 years in American history, it's easy to see that the actual people who run this country's foreign and domestic policy are the R&F's if you would like in the PENTAGON. [Edited by Don W]
Look at it, Kennedy: murdered due to his peaceful outlook, and his notions and goals of peace and ending the cold war. He argued against invading Cuba, and even argued getting out of Vietnam, imagine what would happen if he went on with his plans, the pentagon is not gonna get no money . .
The Cold war and Vietnam could've ended in his presidency . .
“ . . Pentagon doesn't like it, so why not just kill him. there was a movie called "JFK" about this, and it showed the only investigation done about the murder of Kennedy, and it derives it's story from a true story. such as the "magic bullet" theory if you've ever heard of it.
“ . . how exactly does a president get shot, and no public and open and huge investigation happen, how do such important papers about that murder not being opened to public until I think 2027! this is complete BS, where the heck has democracy gone! [Edited by Don W]
posted by INc2006
You much knowledge about JFK. But how come there were no security guards and Army officers in the crowd like usual? Or how the car slowed down to only 10 miles per hour!? Or that weird turn the car took? Plus they say the shooter was in some building and that he made the shot, well if he did, I guess his shot should've came earlier right while the car was making the turn, which was the easiest shot he could've made, but not he waited until the car finished the turn before he shot, the only explanations I can think of are if he hesitated, something was wrong with his rifle, or if there where other conspirers . . [Edited by Don W]
“ . . and he was waiting until all can have a good shot, and then they all shoot. I do not like to base my info on a movie, but I guess that's all I have for now, maybe I should read more . .
posted by sbob
StellarX I agree with most of what you said But....When you said "And the people of American are absolute monsters to allow for their foreign policy to be as murderous and genocidal as it is?"......Well I am not a monster, So thanks for being so nice. And logical. I think Russians are monsters for having Lenin, Stalin..., oh and Putin icing people with polonium milk shakes in Ireland and England. And you said "There is pretty convincing evidence that the then president of Afghanistan invited the Soviets in; America had not even a half valid excuse for the bombing of Afghan and the case for their Iraq policy is orders of magnitudes more illegal."
Come on the Soviet Union invaded Afghan don't try to sugar coat your own country loser actions. I think the USA had every right to invade Afghan after 9/11. The Taliban said screw you at handing over people that killed many Americans. The Taliban were harboring al Qaeda in the country, and if the Taliban were not going to cooperate then they are an accessory to murder well they deserve to go down. Now the Iraq war reasons are pure rubbish, just like your Russian Afghan invasion. [Edited by Don W]
But don't you see what America does is meant only to spread Democracy- which is a key to happiness and prosperity. America liberates people from their governments, so it can let these people have democracy- at least what is left of these people after the bombing campaigns and the ensuing Civil War- but its all for a great cause.
What Russia and other evil regimes are doing, are restricting the spread of this democracy. And Americans can't allow that- because they care about the world so deeply.
A viable alternative to democracy in Russia with Putin? That can't be- because democracy is the supreme truth. And who else to decide what exactly democracy is- that USA. If US says that Putin is not democratic- how dare you argue with it- it knows democracy better than anyone. If US says that Milosevich, or Kim Jong Ill are really bad people- you must take its word for it- or else you will be liberated as well.
And Americans are not hypocrits- they are just naturally predisposed to double standards. What America does is good, and that is a matter of fact. And thats just the way it is in the world with one super-power.
Originally posted by maloy
I was being sarcastic.
Sorry if it wasn't too obvious. But that is basically the message that America, or rather its government and foreign policy, is spreading to people around the world. If you read any of my other posts you'd see that I despise this hypocrisy no less than you do.
[edit on 1-12-2006 by maloy]