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HIV transferable through sneezing.

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posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 12:44 AM
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As a former employee of a Biological manufacturing agency outside of Washington D.C.(I refuse to name the company out of concern of lawsuit) I was privy to certain info that the general public is not aware of. During the Height of the Reagan admin. Russian Scientist Ken Alibek created a strain of HIV that was transferable by sneezing. The worst part is , many of the strains can no longer be accounted for. There are also several other Biological weapons that were created that I will not speak of at Risk of comprimising my identity. The point is, they are real and do exist and there is nothing we can do about it now. I will not answer any qusetions regarding the validity of these statements or how know this. Consider yourself warned. They have been missing for over 15 years. This type of mutation is available and is happening. Be prepared for a cleansing of the earth if this gets out. Should have never been done a Alibek knows it. He is trying to redeem himself by creating cure. This is not public knowledge and was never intended to be. That is all I will say.

[edit on 15-8-2006 by kleverone]




posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 12:52 AM
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HIV usually kills very slow. And with the drugs avaible, if you can aford them, you can still have a long life. So i dont really know if this would cause a cleansing of the earth. Although be it I have felt for quite some time that the HIV was going to go air born at some point. Maby that will be sooner then later.



posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 12:56 AM
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The govt. controls the drugs. They also know the earth cannot sustain it current poulation growth. They also did this type of expeirmentation back in the early 80's. Not alot of foreshadowing involved, like most thing nowdays that we find is horrible for the earth. i.e. burning of fossil fuels. Cleansing of the earth was a little strong by todays standards but that was the original intent. Not so much today but still an acctractive weapon for terrorist. I'm not trying to scare anyone here just educate. The orignal strains are certainly dead but the documentation of the mutation process is missing as well. slightly scary. even with the best drugs today I woulnd't want HIV.

[edit on 15-8-2006 by kleverone]



posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 01:07 AM
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Wow thanks for responding, I was not really exspecting you to. Yes with the current population groath something is going to happen and its not going to be pretty. It just that although aids does kill, its not that fast at it. Of corse no one would want it ever with the drugs, just I still dont see it being used to do any population cleansing.



posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 01:15 AM
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Like I said that was the original intent. They were a bit hasty in the development. Remember the true effects of the disease were still a mystery in the ealry 80's. The idea for a population cleansing died with the drug development. But still remains a threat to 3rd world countries and possibly the U.S. Should we face economic collaspe.



posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 01:22 AM
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Yes I do think those statments are quite valid. But population cleansing being the goal what will be used for that now? If that is still on the plate I would seem that something better must be comeing down the pipe.



posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 01:29 AM
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If you have the ablility to mutate that Virus, any govt is gonna listen to what you have to say. Nice trump card bought on the black market. Threaten America with that and watch what happens. HIV is still scary to most Americans. You saw what anthrax did. Think more economics, would you fly if you could get HIV from a sneeze? Don't put it past the US to use as a scare tactic if this ever gets out to the mainstream public. (which I don't believe it will) Denial all the way.

[edit on 15-8-2006 by kleverone]



posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 01:36 AM
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OK so its more of a scare tactic. Guess that makes sence.
I can understand what the anthrax did because that does kill. That would defently be a way to reduce the population. Right delevery system would wipe out a city. Thats pretty scary also.



posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 02:08 AM
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Anthrax can Kill(not likely) but won't if caught early, No such luck with HIV. death sentence without drugs which would not be available with economic collapse. Think Great depression type era but do more to war and famine. Must be nice to have access to an underground bunker equipped to sustain life in case of nuclear war. But yes at this point it is more of a terrorist threat but even more of a scare tactic. Not really sure if the govt wants this one made public though due to public panic. But remember this is one I can speak of without initial fear of retribution. There are other Bioligical weapons far worse that I will not speak of due to Incrimnation.



posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 03:18 PM
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Thats not a good thought. HIV from a sneeze? Its believable. Ebola, Bubonic plague, and others can be spread as easily. Just frightening to think you could pick the wrong glass up at the bar, go see a movie, go to get groceries, heck just go anywhere and end up with HIV.

It seems that a lot of laboratory information and genetic samples go unaccounted for these days. I sure feel safe.



posted on Aug, 15 2006 @ 05:22 PM
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Well if it means anything, as killer plagues usually go they will wipe out about one third of the population or so. So for those who manage to survive this there families should be sure to prosper.



posted on Sep, 17 2006 @ 08:53 PM
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Do you have any links please..



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 12:16 AM
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Quite probable really..


I have always been of the opinion that if HIV was tranferable through something like mosquito bites, they would withold that info from the public for obvious reasons..

..but to think that the government is using this virus as some kind of population controll is indeed worrying.



posted on Sep, 18 2006 @ 12:27 AM
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Sorry but I,m not buying this..

If you are privvy to such information I would have to assume you work in the research field??.This would require an above average command of grammar/spelling etc in the course of your education.

Since you are posting from Los Angeles I would have to assume you are American.

While I by no means wish to demean you I feel that you are in no way connected to any such department.

Sincere apologies if I am mistaken and English is not your primary language.



posted on Sep, 19 2006 @ 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by kleverone
Anthrax can Kill(not likely) but won't if caught early,

Weaponized anthrax is nearly 100% fatal.

I wonder where you're getting this info with respect to Abilek. I've read a good deal about this stuff, and I don't remember hearing about HIV being transferable via sneezing. I know that the USSR was producing variant strains of smallpox, by the metric ton, and certainly old standbys like inhalation anthrax, and bubonic plague. But nothing about HIV.

HIV is in fact a horrible bioweapon. It has a long incubation time; the median time of progression is like nine to ten years. So let's launch a bioweapon, and sit around and wait for a decade and hope they don't find a cure in the meantime. HIV is a horrible choice for a bioweapon. Properties possessed by good candidates for bioweapons include: high infectivity, robustness, efficacy of aerosol delivery, high lethality. HIV has none of these characteristics.

In any case, I worked on two projects, one for the DoD, and one for homeland security. Both projects were focused on the early detection of bioweapons. In one case we were sampling for 10 bioweapons, and in the other 20 different bioweapons. There's a long and sordid list of bugs there, but HIV wasn't on the list... never even came up once a meeting.

Finally, if you simply look at the epidemiology of the disease (ignoring Africa, as an AIDS diagnosis doesn't require a positive HIV test), the disease does not follow the pattern of a typical infectious disease. In fact, its pattern of infection is actually suggestive of something other than an infectious disease, and certainly not an infectious disease that you contract via a sneeze.

Sorry, but this just doesn't add up.


But remember this is one I can speak of without initial fear of retribution. There are other Bioligical weapons far worse that I will not speak of due to Incrimnation.

What? You can talk about bioweapons all you want... watch this: Bubonic plague, ricin, botulism toxin, anthrax, Typhus, Ebola, Cholera, Q Fever, Smallpox, encephalitis, yellow fever, rift valley fever, psittacosis, shigella, brucellosis.

Wow, I just talked about more than a dozen bioweapons... and I bet I'll still be on line tomorrow.


[edit on 19-9-2006 by mattison0922]



posted on Sep, 21 2006 @ 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by mattison0922
What? You can talk about bioweapons all you want... watch this: Bubonic plague, ricin, botulism toxin, anthrax, Typhus, Ebola, Cholera, Q Fever, Smallpox, encephalitis, yellow fever, rift valley fever, psittacosis, shigella, brucellosis.

Wow, I just talked about more than a dozen bioweapons... and I bet I'll still be on line tomorrow.


[edit on 19-9-2006 by mattison0922]


Ok This is Agent 69..

By the power vested in me I now arrest you for naming the above bio-weapons.
(under the correct spelling act 1954)
I now have the power to seize all your belongings for national security reasons..

Starting with any Video games for the ps2 and your porn collection.
Any comments you make will be completely ignored as me no speeky engleesh anyhoo.


Btw still not buying it. sorry



posted on Sep, 22 2006 @ 01:55 PM
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I have to agre with Agent_T on this one... I cannot accept a claim like this without any kind of proof.
Is there any kind of documentation or anything you can post that would help validate this? Not saying you are lying... but it is alot to swallow.

If this is true...
Why not take it to the MSM and force them to run this story?
Push it down they're throats until ithey do a piece on it.

If this is true.. it is gravely disturbing. Sure it is understandable as to WHY they wouldnt tell the masses(probably mass hysteria would ensue) But then again maybe not.

If this is/ was being done as a form of population control Why have the authors of such a proposal been aloud to walk free? these are mass murders..planned no less.

My brother died from AIDS in 1995 and from the moment I learned about AIDS and HIV I could not help but wonder if it was an engineered virus.



posted on Sep, 22 2006 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by AGENT_T
By the power vested in me I now arrest you for naming the above bio-weapons.
(under the correct spelling act 1954)


This comment made me laugh hard enough that I momentarily forgot about my overwhelming fear of earth-cleansing airborne bioweapons.



posted on Sep, 22 2006 @ 03:14 PM
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While I'm not saying this could NEVER happen, I will say that HIV is the least of man's concern. While true it is a tragic virus it also kills slowly if at all.
Not all people die from AIDS. So IMO HIV makes a piss poor global population killer.
Ebola, Marburg, Influenza??? Now we're talkin'

But...I suppose the Gov's have already thought of these too.



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