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More evidence of the LACK of a liberal bias in the MSM




Topic started on 14-8-2006 @ 08:03 PM by Elsenorpompom


Im starting this thread with one vid... and then as I come across more from News networks other than Fox news.... who display an OBVIOUS WH bias....
I have been told by numerous people both educated and non educated young and old that there is an obvious liberal bias in the media.. I even heard it from my professor's... well my problem is that I don't see it... its no where to be found... but what i do see is something quite different and far more insidious.. do you see it too??

We start with a great quote from Cnn's Chuck roberts just after Ned Lamont won the Democratic Primary in Connecticut....

Al Qaeda Candidate

this is really just too much... more to come as I get them.... let me know what you all think..... feel free to post your own vids that either support this claim... or even ones that show a blatant liberal bias....

Also... I will not be showing clips from talk shows... I.E Meet the press... Keith Olberman... Glenn Beck.... Lou Dobbs... these people all have obvious bias... im more interested in whats supposedly just news reporting.... Headline news... etc...

[edit on 14-8-2006 by Elsenorpompom to add more vids]

additional vids will be added to this post so that everyone can see them quickly....

Imus wants to ban anti-lieberman dems?!?

this is just funny... and its on MSNBC... gotta love MSNBC.. prolly the only news network that is equally liberal and conservative.. they will aire anything...

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okay so i lied about Fox news... i just had to put this one up.. its really really really really really over the top...

Johhny come lately religon

o man this cracked me up....

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Tony Snow strikes again... through CNN... while i understand that this is the opinion of a WH spokesman and not CNN... they aired it... so im plugging it... cause its not Fox... lol... Ned Lamont really must be dangerous to this admin... all these Top Conservatives are rallying for him... go figure... wonder if the rumour that he was just a right wing plant were true???

Vote for lamont you must want another 9-11

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in Cnn's defense they had someone on from Huffingtonpost.com and she slamed CNN for no accountability in regards to the Chuck Roberts incident...
Accountability

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This lil mp3 isnt recent... infact its not even non-fiction... the following is a clip from the Movie "Network" .... here is the transcript so that its easier to follow....

Network <---- this is the link to the mp3

Jensen: You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!!

Is that clear?! You think you've merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The

Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It

is ebb and flow, tidal gravity! It is ecological balance!

You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There

are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. There

is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven,

interacting, multivariate, multi-national dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars,

electro-dollars, multi-dollars, Reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds, and shekels.

It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this

planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and

galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature,

and YOU WILL ATONE!

Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale?

You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There

is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and DuPont, Dow,

Union Carbide, and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.

What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state -- Karl Marx? They get

out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, minimax solutions, and

compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do.

We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of

corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bylaws of business. The world is a

business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime. And our children will

live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or

brutality -- one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a

common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all

anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.

And I have chosen you, Mr. Beale, to preach this evangel.

Beale: But why me?

Jensen: Because you're on television, dummy. Sixty million people watch you every night of

the week, Monday through Friday.



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reply posted on 14-8-2006 @ 08:43 PM by Gools



Originally posted by Elsenorpompom
... what i do see is something quite different and far more insidious.. do you see it too??


Yes I do and I've been seeing it for a while.

Scary isn't it?
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reply posted on 14-8-2006 @ 09:15 PM by Elsenorpompom


That it is gools... and for those of you who are wondering why im not spelling it out... i do not want to bias anyone before they watch vids... im not here to persuade... im just here to try and disprove the myth of liberal media via a non-traditional method... generally people try and show the money trail who owns what and so on so forth... but are constantly hit with the "Well the reporters are liberal and the owners cannot completely control thier speech"... the only way to disprove this is to show people thier words... the sound byte is beautiful.. it allows for some context.. but allows one to focus on individual words that generally slip by unnoticed...



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reply posted on 16-8-2006 @ 01:05 PM by ludaChris


I watched the video about Lamont during the Tony Snow interview, he never says that phrase about wanting another 9/11 if you vote for Lamont at all. The way he was speaking doesnt even sound as though he was implying it. It was the expression of an opinion if anything else.

Roberts asked a question because of what others said and getting his guests opinion. I see nothing wrong there. That clip is about a spin on the Liberman loss by the GOP. I dont see the point there. Hardly a pro conservative segment of the show.

Imus can have his own opinion on his own show right. But I guess if he feels the same way some conservatives do he must be part of the propaganda machine as well then huh? I dont even think it was a serious thread, I've watched Imus enough times in the morning to know that he wouldnt pull anything like that and lose the base of his audience.

The Johnny come lately remark was bad however, I do agree there. That was what I call a cheap shot at the Muslim religion.

Other than the cheap shot at Muslims on Fox you have no case on any of these in my opinion. Its nitpicking at others opinions because they may not fit with your own, whcih is fine if you want to spend your time doing that, it doesnt bother me. But if you are going to nitpick at others opinions at least do it and make a solid case for yourself.







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reply posted on 16-8-2006 @ 03:16 PM by forestlady


Good thread, Sr. Pompom. (Gotta love the name).

Lieberman is a Republican in sheep's clothing. He is a darling of the neocons because he is one and because he was so pro war. The only thing that Lamont said about it is that he advocates withdrawing our troops from Iraq. That is a long way away from wanting another 9/11. Cheney, et al are trying to slime Lamont. It's dirty pool. He had a brilliant response though. I read it a few days ago but can't find it now.

What I see in our media is propaganda. Important facts are left out, downright lies are added, and hey the media even made "liberal" a bad word. Liberals didn't do that.



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reply posted on 16-8-2006 @ 03:45 PM by ludaChris



Originally posted by forestlady
Good thread, Sr. Pompom. (Gotta love the name).

Lieberman is a Republican in sheep's clothing. He is a darling of the neocons because he is one and because he was so pro war. The only thing that Lamont said about it is that he advocates withdrawing our troops from Iraq. That is a long way away from wanting another 9/11. Cheney, et al are trying to slime Lamont. It's dirty pool. He had a brilliant response though. I read it a few days ago but can't find it now.

What I see in our media is propaganda. Important facts are left out, downright lies are added, and hey the media even made "liberal" a bad word. Liberals didn't do that.



By the same coin us conservatives and republicans get painted the way you describe on this website all the time. It is a two way street. So being a republican to you is comparable to being a "wolf in sheeps clothing"? I think Liberman is a conservative democrat, much like Rudy Guliani is considered a Liberal Republican. The same stuff has been said about Guilliani as you say about liberman. I personally like both Liberman and Guilliani. Liberal has not been made a bad word of any sort in our media, maybe by certain people but certainly not by the media.



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reply posted on 16-8-2006 @ 08:07 PM by Elsenorpompom


Ludacris... i suggest you read some of my other threads... i am not bashing Conservatives... I am pointing out that the lies i was taught both in HS and in College about a Liberal media... The comment made my Chuck roberts is a prime example of Correspondents claiming that "someone" while not telling you who... thought something... and implying that this person was some kind of "expert" or "knowledgeable"... and as I find more clips on youtube....googlevideo.... and other sites.... ill put them up... but thanks for checking out my thread...



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reply posted on 17-8-2006 @ 06:28 AM by forestlady



Originally posted by ludaChris
By the same coin us conservatives and republicans get painted the way you describe on this website all the time. It is a two way street. So being a republican to you is comparable to being a "wolf in sheeps clothing"? I think Liberman is a conservative democrat, much like Rudy Guliani is considered a Liberal Republican. The same stuff has been said about Guilliani as you say about liberman. I personally like both Liberman and Guilliani. Liberal has not been made a bad word of any sort in our media, maybe by certain people but certainly not by the media.


LudaCris, you misunderstand me. I don't like it either when a group of people gets painted with a broad brush. But that isn't what I was trying to do. I wasn't criticizing Republicans, I was trying to say that the media turned the word "liberal" into a bad name, therefore, it's one example of how the media is not itself liberal. The wolf in sheep's clothing comment was about Lieberman being registered as a Democrat, even though IMHO, he can be seen as a Republican masquerading as a Democrat. He doesn't represent the traditional Democratic party line, he is a neocon (short for neoconservative.)



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