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Apollo 11 Astronauts dangling on wires giveaway! VIDEO

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posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 08:50 PM
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8. With 1/6 the gravity of Earth, the "rooster tail" of dust kicked up behind the wheels of the "dune buggy" (lunar rover) should have gone up SIX TIMES as high as it would on Earth when traveling at the same speed. But it does not. It also comes back down in sheets - SHEETS! That is impossible in zero atmosphere. The dust should have come back down in the exact same smooth arc it went up in.

9. The folded lunar rover could not physically have fit in the allotted storage space on the lunar lander. Collier went and measured it. The space is several feet too short. Shots taken "on the moon" show the astronauts STARTING to unhatch the compartment and remove the rover, but then cut away. When they pan back, the rover has been unfolded. How conveeeeeeenient!

10. The lunar lander crashed - CRASHED - during its only test flight on Earth. So why was it further test flown by attempting to land it ON THE MOON? If you were an astronaut’s wife, would you go along with that?

11. None of the Apollo astronauts has ever written an "I Went To The Moon" book or other such memoirs.

12. There is more - much, much more. The location of the directional thrusters, the smoky visibility of the burning rocket fuel, etc. ...



Now ask yourself, if in fact we did NOT land on the moon and the American public ever discovers that fact, do you think their eyes and minds might be opened just a teeny bit to the HUNDREDS of already discovered and CONFIRMED acts of government deception?




posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 08:52 PM
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I fail to see the conection between a Moon landing hoax and UFOs and Aliens.
And to add there are several reflective targets visible with the aid of a good set of binoculars.And guess what? They didn't get there on their own.
We've been to the Moon.
I'm far more inclined to believe the story which offers the best evidence.



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 08:56 PM
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Some of the idiotic assertions of James Collier:

1. Two suited astronauts could not fit inside the LM. (Collier bases this on tape measurements, not experimentation.)

2. A suited astronaut could not fit through the LM hatch because it opened inward, and Collier has the measurements to prove it. (Collier didn't measure an LM, he measured a cockpit simulator.)

3. A suited astronaut could not fit through the docking tunnel. (He wasn't meant to.)

4. There is a blue glow in the spacecraft windows. (Scattering by contaminants.)

5. No crater under the LM. (Collier botches every one of his attempts at physics.)

6. None of the "blazing stars" visible in any photographs. (Shouldn't be any.)

7. Shadows go different directions and lengths. (Perspective -- what a concept.)

8. No photos taken of earth. (Patently false.)

9. Funny rover rooster tails. (Again, Collier is no physicist.)

10. The rover won't fit in the bay on the LM, and Collier has the measurements to prove it. (Collier has no clue how it was folded up.)

11. The camera cuts away from footage of the LM being unloaded, then it's shown fully deployed. (Collier is watching "Nothing So Hidden", not the archival footage. The archival footage clearly shows the deployment from start to finish.)

12. The lunar lander crashed on its only test flight. (The LLTV, not the lander, crashed ONCE because it ran out of maneuvering fuel. All other flights were successful.)

13. None of the astronauts has written a memoir. (Patently false.)

Clearly Collier knows very little about the Apollo program. Most of the answers to his questions would have been found at the museum where he did his "research", had he but asked the questions. Clearly he was at the museum to gather ammunition, not information.


www.clavius.org...


web.archive.org...://www.skywardpress.com/acritiqu.htm


James Collier has been Debunked .



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 09:01 PM
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That it's been edited: Oh, definitely possible. One of the things I do best is video editing. Right now I'm not on a computer I can do a very good analysis of this video (frame/reverse wise), but obviously it's possible.

So then:

Imagine the video IS in fact of him getting pulled up on wires. If so, it would look just like the video you see now, yes?

So it comes down to this - do you believe it's been edited, or not? If not, it's damning evidence of the fakery of the apollo program. If it has been, well it's just one of those things, for whatever reason (the producers of the famous video it came from, or whoever gave them the video, or even at nasa accidentally) someone edited it? obviously for this purpose. SO WHERES THE ORIGINAL?
please? anyone?


I'd put money on it being edited. But my mind says its very interesting, and deserves further investigation. But anyway... its just one of many videos/info which make me wonder.



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 09:02 PM
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Well, maybe the footage you show is real, and is not the real landing on the moon... Just because that clip shows that astronaut possibly being "assisted by wires", doesn't mean we never went to the moon... That clip could be part of Kubrick's fake moon landing footage collection, for example...

Actually, maybe everyone needs to watch this video. It is a little less than an hour long, but tells a very interesting story of how the moon landing could have and would have been faked, or not faked...
Quite a cast of characters in this video... A must see!!

video.google.de...

That video should answer a lot of questions, or maybe make everyone ask a lot more, either way, an awesome documentary...



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by DebunkerXXX
Some of the idiotic assertions of James Collier:

1. Two suited astronauts could not fit inside the LM. (Collier bases this on tape measurements, not experimentation.)

2. A suited astronaut could not fit through the LM hatch because it opened inward, and Collier has the measurements to prove it. (Collier didn't measure an LM, he measured a cockpit simulator.)

3. A suited astronaut could not fit through the docking tunnel. (He wasn't meant to.)

4. There is a blue glow in the spacecraft windows. (Scattering by contaminants.)

5. No crater under the LM. (Collier botches every one of his attempts at physics.)

6. None of the "blazing stars" visible in any photographs. (Shouldn't be any.)

7. Shadows go different directions and lengths. (Perspective -- what a concept.)

8. No photos taken of earth. (Patently false.)

9. Funny rover rooster tails. (Again, Collier is no physicist.)

10. The rover won't fit in the bay on the LM, and Collier has the measurements to prove it. (Collier has no clue how it was folded up.)

11. The camera cuts away from footage of the LM being unloaded, then it's shown fully deployed. (Collier is watching "Nothing So Hidden", not the archival footage. The archival footage clearly shows the deployment from start to finish.)

12. The lunar lander crashed on its only test flight. (The LLTV, not the lander, crashed ONCE because it ran out of maneuvering fuel. All other flights were successful.)

13. None of the astronauts has written a memoir. (Patently false.)

Clearly Collier knows very little about the Apollo program. Most of the answers to his questions would have been found at the museum where he did his "research", had he but asked the questions. Clearly he was at the museum to gather ammunition, not information.


www.clavius.org...


web.archive.org...://www.skywardpress.com/acritiqu.htm


James Collier has been Debunked .

I love the disinformation wars, don't you?








posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 09:09 PM
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Originally posted by TheyAreNotWhoTheySayTheyR


eh... so many people not reading...just clicking on video, watching a bit, then going eh, lame.


WATCH THE LAST PART OF THE VIDEO. WATCH HIM GET UP!

someone said it's reversed - really? maybe...but well, i simply can't see what it's reversed from. i'll pull it into premiere and take a look at reversing it, and see what i come up with


I watched the whole thing. Its still pretty lame. I dont see anything except really old, crappy footage.



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 09:17 PM
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quote---------I love the disinformation wars, don't you? ---

more like the Truth wars, I mean hell if you wanna sniff glue and then think you see little green martians and boogey men in the closet , then by all means do so.
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posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 09:20 PM
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..this convinced me that we did not go to the moon when we say we did! if at all!?

What Happened on the Moon
Part 1: video.google.com...

Part 2: video.google.com...



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 09:42 PM
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What was the white object that fell to the ground?

I thought that the moon has no gravity.
If so, it should have floated away............



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 09:51 PM
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Yes, the moon has gravity...why would you think it doesn't? It is 1/6th the size of earth, therefore, 1/6 the the gravity of earth. Basic science my friend.

I urge you all to check out badastronomy.com

It will answer all your questions, as will DOZENS of other threads on this SAME TOPIC!



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 10:10 PM
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Those vids dont prove anything , you can fake and Or Debunk anything.

those vids are no different than the ones trying to debunk ufos .

hell with photoshop/premiere I could debunk your home vids as fake
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jra

posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 10:39 PM
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In regards to the video posted in the begining of this thread. In the begining of that video there's a hand that points to something that shines a bit. I'm assuming they were saying that it was a wire (no audio on this computer at the moment). What it is, is an antenna on the PLSS (Portable Life Support System). One can find many high res photos of it.

As for the end of the video. Due to there being 1/6th gravity, it makes it easier to stand up. Things work a little differently on the moon due to the lack of gravity. Have you noticed how the dust easily gets kicked up? Have you noticed that it doesn't stay suspended in the air for very long at all, unlike on Earth when you kick up some dust, it stays suspended in the air for longer making a little dust cloud.

Anyway I understand you don't believe in the hoax TheyAreNotWhoTheySayTheyR, so I spare you the dozens of examples showing how it was real.

I'll just end this post showing other video examples of astronauts falling and getting up.
www.hq.nasa.gov... (52 seconds; 0.6 MB)

Here's a good one of an astronaut getting down on his knees and back up again on his own
www.hq.nasa.gov... (1 minute 19 seconds; 1 MB)
www.hq.nasa.gov... (1 minute 3 seconds; 0.76 MB)



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 10:52 PM
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I agree at the end of the video it does look as if he is being pulled up by a wire, because he for the amount of lesser gravity on the moon it would take him much more longer and physically intensive then what I saw. Can someone expain exactly how he got up in that type of gravity.

[edit on 13-8-2006 by Revelmonk]



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 11:01 PM
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But what about that "thing" that falls to the ground right after that one guy finally gets back on his feet? Anybody see that "thing" that falls to the ground -- it's at the very, very end of this vid? Just wondering but if sure fell as fast as anything that would fall here on earth. I thought there was less gravity up there?







[edit on 13-8-2006 by Palasheea]



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 11:13 PM
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Aside from what my personal beliefs are, in regards to the moon landings, I absolutely think that the last part of the video shows a man being lifted by something we can't see...and it aint less gravity. No matter how little gravity there is, as long as it's there, physics isn's going to allow your body to move like that. I also don't personally believe that the footage is reversed, in fact I think that it would look even more unnatural if reversed.

That "Dark Side of the Moon" documentary is actually relatively convinving up until the last 1/3 of the movie. It reall had me believing that Kubrick helped in filming a staged moon landing just so we could "beat" the Russians. Well the deal breaker is after the end when they show the out takes of the actors reading scripts and screwing up. It's a "Mockumentary" and they show you that at the end.

I'm sure we've been to the moon, but I also wouldn't put it past our government to film and/or photograph fake landings just so we could take credit for being the first. I would bet that alot of the early footage we saw as Americans in the late sixties had a high probability of beink fake.

Plenty of evidence. But skeptics can't use a "fact" about us being there to disprove the possibility of some film or photographs being fake...doesn't make sense.



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 11:39 PM
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Originally posted by MagicaRose
What was the white object that fell to the ground?

I thought that the moon has no gravity.
If so, it should have floated away............


I'm glad somebody else brought this up -- good question.



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by Conluceo
oh man, you gotta check this out. this goes very well with this post!!

www.youtube.com...



[edit on 13-8-2006 by Conluceo]


That's hilarious!


jra

posted on Aug, 14 2006 @ 01:13 AM
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Originally posted by ledbedder20
That "Dark Side of the Moon" documentary is actually relatively convinving up until the last 1/3 of the movie.


Except that it's a mockumentary. And no, I'm not just saying that. It's an admited joke.


Originally posted by Palasheea
But what about that "thing" that falls to the ground right after that one guy finally gets back on his feet? Anybody see that "thing" that falls to the ground -- it's at the very, very end of this vid? Just wondering but if sure fell as fast as anything that would fall here on earth. I thought there was less gravity up there?


Less gravity, yes. But there is still gravity, thus the astronauts staying on the surface.

You might want to watch this Palasheea. It's the "hammer and feather" experiment from Apollo 15. www.hq.nasa.gov... (50 seconds; 0.8MB)

And that thing that falls. It looks like a sample bag. I noticed them in several Apollo 16 videos. I guess he droped it while getting back up.



posted on Aug, 14 2006 @ 04:13 AM
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Originally posted by sensfan
Yes, the moon has gravity...why would you think it doesn't? It is 1/6th the size of earth, therefore, 1/6 the the gravity of earth. Basic science my friend.


Actually, the moon's diameter is about 1/4 the Earth's diameter, but it has only about 1/81 of the Earth's mass. That much lesser mass, however, is partially compensated for by the moon's 1/4 radius. Being so much closer to the center of mass makes the surface gravity about 1/6 that of Earth's surface gravity.



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