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Originally posted by Vekar
We do NOT need an ID card. I dont want one, wont get one, end of story.
State ID cards (at least in my state its something you get for a passport renewal)
SSN's (Social Security Numbers)
Tax Stubs (used for drivers license in my state)
Selective Service Cards (Used for the military draft)
etc. (to any I didnt add to the long list)
I think we have enough cards already, I dont need a barcode on my forehead. All these systems have not stopped 1 illegal immigrant and WILL NOT stop any of your "terrorists" and shoot they didnt even stop them the first time so whats one more card going to do? NOTHING. Why? Because no one who is comming illegalaly or to blow me up (never going to happen unless the govt. tries to) is going to use a system that requires cards. Remember they are ILLEGAL aliens, thus they dont go into federal buildings, they stay on plantations and at grocery stores who dont declare them in the first place and can be gathered a dime a dozen so why do they care if they get caught? Just go get more! The govt. doesnt put pressure on corporations who hire illegals so your ID card to prevent them is a flop, they dont WANT people with ID cards in the first place because they have to PAY US remember? Why pay $13.75 an hour when you can get an illegal for $1.50 or less an hour? If they complain turn them in and VOILA!!! problem solved and you turned them into the classic man swining from the guilotine to the other workers who might question you! It can also be put as: See what happened to him? It will happen to YOU if you dont shut up about your wage!
Any terrorist with half a functional brain wont bother to use conventional methods anyway, thus your cards wont stop anyone. If you required a passport and a drivers license (over 18 people only, drivers license that is) then you would stop some people from getting on a plane. However I dont recall GROUND CREWS getting checked.... So maybe those of you out there who think a bomb is going to go off in your pants thanks to a terrorist or the plane is going to explode mid-air from a bomb just think about it for a moment. If your so scared of terrorists why dont you start with the GROUND CREWS WHO CHECK AND WORK ON AND IN THE PLANES BEFORE TAKEOFF!!!!! Your ID cards are NOT required by the LUGGAGE HANDLER WHO IS THE LAST PERSON TO TOUCH THE BAGS BEFORE TAKEOFF! AND THEY ARE NOT CHECKED AT THAT POINT!!!!! Go talk to a ground crew guy sometime and watch them at an airport.
Originally posted by craig732
The bill does not call for a federal ID card.
It calls for "a federally approved ID card" with "machine readable technology".
Many people in the United States already have this.
Anyone who live in New York State that has a Driver's License or a Non-Driver ID has this. The ID cards have a bar code with all your information on it that can be read by a machine.
It is ID cards like this that they are talking about ... the IDs all will have to meet standards so they can be authenticated by a unversal system.
In most cases, this national ID will come in the form of your state driver's license. This is not surprising. Driver's licenses have been evolving in to de facto ID cards for a long time. We use them to prove our age and identity when purchasing alcohol or tobacco. We use them at airport security checks. Under the new law, driver's licenses will have to meet standards that the Department of Homeland Security will define.