Hitler's beliefs and the EU

Below are hitlers beliefs taken from Mein Kampf and i will explain after these why i feel his beliefs are creeping back into the modern world:

1)The Germans are the �Master Race�. They must be kept pure. Only those of German blood may be citizens. No Jews may be members of the nation. It was Jews who helped bring about Germany�s defeat in the First World War. They must be destroyed.

2)We demand land and colonies to feed our people and to house our surplus population.

3)We demand a strong central government led by a single leader; a Fuhrer.

4)All of the people of German blood (including people living in Czechoslovakia and Austria) must be allowed to live in Germany.

His beliefs some how remind me of the european union due to the fact of a strong central government with a single leader. To me, the EU is basicly bringing Hitlers beliefs to life. The european constitution would call for an president, which will be unelected by the European people.

However, the european constitution would outlaw racism and xenophobia, but a number of EU countries do not agree with it due to freedom of speech rights.

The European Union believes Europe can be and will be the next super power and some believe european people are the Master race due to empires such as the British, french and spanish etc. Also if your country is a member of the EU then you have the right to live in any EU country, reminds me of point 4.

I do believe strongly that the EU is basicly taking hitler's ideas and bringing them into a possible reality. But i do hope the european constitution doesn't happen and Hitlers ideas never come to life.

Great topic of discussion.

EU = Revived Nazi Party

Aaaah....Very good topic.

Last month, all the Euro Nation Leaders met in Italy. They especially spoke about the future EU Constitution.

The place where they met is an ancient fascist Congress Hall builded by Mussolini. Just a coincidence.....

ultra,

good work man.

there are few coincidences in life.

infinite....
I do seriously think, without having to dig through old posts and links, that the EU, as well as, the US has been 'implicated' in the agenda NWO. Be it the Illuminati, Bilderbergs, etc., the implications of the Nazi ideology and philosophies are apparent. Check some of DR's old Nazi thread, like Black Eagle (I think) and a couple others and one will see what I am implying.

The EU is mainly a socialist construct, is it not? I am merely asking for clrification....
The EU has many simularities to and with the goals and ideas set forth by the NWO agendas dealing with organization and populance controls, etc. The EU big-wigs ALSO have much in common with the Bilderbergs, Illuminati, if one wishes to dig a bit on this. MKULTRA would probably be a good one to ask or have comment on this.

I hope this didn't throw off your topic or thoughts but the 'simularities' and remembering DR's old threads began to add up, so to speak.
All this is certainly only my interpretations and feelings, and as such, are very open to being wrong and non-conclusive.


regards
seekerof

Seeker,

we know all that.

but see how the OWO and NWO have natural differences?

that is the real point.

who rules in the end is who gets to impose their system on the rest.

in the end there will be a lot of 'jockeying' around as different horses try to cross the finish line first.

Incidentally.....

Since seeker brought it up......

EU socialist construct. Nazis was a shortened form of the german National SOCIALISTS.

EU=Federated National Socialists?

A constitution to outlaw racism and xenophobia. Soon, mind control. Or........racism will rise again. And thus, Europe will be united under the 4th reich..........

Superpower? Unlikely. The next superpower will be China, or, if eastern europe get thier # together and form thier own bloc..........

Hitler made it a point that he wanted to wipe out the racially subhuman slavs as he called them.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Skadi,

quite correct,
hitler rose to power on a socialist platform in the beginning.

look on the political spectrum, extreme socialism is not far removed from fascism.

In the case of socialism the state or political parties own the corporations,

in fascism families or individuals or share holders own the corporations,

with everything else being equal.

Yes, NEO..

It has often been said, if you go enough left and right, the two converge as one.

There is a rise in racial supremecy and other mentalities in Europe. Its generally limited, but growing.

Soon Americans, being a very mixed bunch, will also be classified as subhumans as well. And will they hok up with china like germany did japan?

History repeats itself, and the circes its going in are giving me motion sickness.

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
The next superpower will be China, or, if eastern europe get thier # together and form thier own bloc..........

Eastern europe nations will join the EU. Even the Russia will probably join the EU. At this time, the EU will be really the first super-power and will be completely unchallenged. Europe WITHOUT Russia, Bielorussia and Ukraine it's allmost 500 million peoples. Russia, Bielorussia and Ukraine it's 200 million. So we can have a + 700 million peoples European Federation.

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Superpower? Unlikely. The next superpower will be China, or, if eastern europe get thier # together and form thier own bloc..........

Of course the EU will be the next super power, the EU will become the most powerful thing on the planet in the next 5 years.

Plus most eastern european countries are planning to join the EU in the next couple of years.

People seem to forget....

The Eastern Bloc countries, still have qual EU, and generally, are alienated from western Europe in many ways.

The feeling I am getting from Slavic land is the possibility of forming thier own bloc, patching up old relations with Russia, and the creation of a unified Slavic front. Thats what they are gunning for in the long run, in the short term, playing the Euro game benefits them too pull thier economies from out of the mudpile.

I see the EU collapsing really quick, and either an Asian or eastern European bloc rising to power, as the superpower, or two superpowers emerging.

But I do not see Eastern Europeans sticking with the EU for long.

I think we were discussing this in another thread....

The most powerful thing on the planet will either be China or Slaviclands.

Incidentally, 500 million people on such a tiny landmass. the overcrowding, pollution, taxation on resources.....I remeber Hitlers "Lebensraum" program.

Where will Lebensraum be sought this time?

not all of those plans where crazy. look at the autobahn, rockets, jetfighter, but also some plans. only the people which were comited to for fill those plans didn;t do wright. I am not trying to kick some one to his or her leg but there is a thin line between insanity and genius ideas. some time a insane persone can create a genius idea and it works the other way also some times a genius creates something insane which will treathen the world.

Originally posted by MarkLuitzen
not all of those plans where crazy. look at the autobahn, rockets, jetfighter, but also some plans.

The price to have all these thing was a little bit expensive, isn't it ? ( Hey, you forgot the Volkswagen )

i know its a sweeping genrelization, but i had allways said, hitler tryed to make europe one, people died to keep brittian brittish france french, poland polish, ect ect but now its happening anwway..

i dont understand why...

whats changed in 60 years...i still think the currption was there, so why did the elite change their minds?

straight after WWII some of the powerful countries called for a united states of europe:

Sept 19th 1946
A "United states of europe" to ensure future oeace was urged by Winston Churchill today. In a speech broadcast world-wide from Zurich, he said that reconciliation and partnership between france and germany must be the first step in its creation.
But the ex-premier pictured "millions of free europeans, now scanning the dark horizons for the approach of a new form of tyranny and terror. The needed a regional mutual protection pact."
He continued: "time may be short. At present there is a breathing space, but if we are to a united states of europe - or whatever name it may take - then we must begin now. I say to you: Let us rise."

(source: Chronicle of the 20th Century)

Nazis were NATIONAL SOCIALISTS and this is very diffrent from SOCIALISM!
Socialism was the political system in the countries of WARSAW PACT wich strongly fought national socialism, the nazis, the worst enemy. You think of the Warsaw Pact countries as communistic countries, that is right! They were Peoples' Republics, SOCIALISTIC/COMMUNISTIC countries. Today, UE isn't returning to Hitler's beliefs but creating a system such as in the USSR! Countries such as Chech, Slovakia or Poland, wich fought for DEMOCRATIC system are now joining the UE, thus returning to socialism, wich they had to suffer for the 50 years of their history!

the nazis used socialism as a tool to power, the orignal party was a socialist party based on marxist theories. It wasn't until Hitler got involved did the views also contain racism etc.

[Edited on 3-11-2003 by infinite]

Hoo boy, where do I even start.

First of all, a united Europe isn't a new concept. Scholars have been studying the concept from as early as the 17th century. In the end of that century, Quakers especially had risen at forefront of the discussion. They acknowledged the fact that a permanent peace in Europe can only be achieved by a Union of the countries.

The EU is built on that very same idea, to increase stability and peace in Europe. It's not somekind of a facist organisation.

And now, a snippet from the EU constitution:

Article II-21: Non-discrimination
1. Any discrimination based on any ground such as sex, race, colour, ethnic or social origin, genetic features, language, religion or belief, political or any other opinion, membership of a national minority, property, birth, disability, age or sexual orientation shall be prohibited.

2. Within the scope of application of the Constitution and without prejudice to any of its specific provisions, any discrimination on grounds of nationality shall be prohibited.

Article II-1: Human dignity
Human dignity is inviolable. It must be respected and protected.

Article II-2: Right to life
1. Everyone has the right to life.

2. No one shall be condemned to the death penalty, or executed.

Article II-3: Right to the integrity of the person
1. Everyone has the right to respect for his or her physical and mental integrity.

2. In the fields of medicine and biology, the following must be respected in particular:

(a) the free and informed consent of the person concerned, according to the procedures laid down by law,

(b) the prohibition of eugenic practices, in particular those aiming at the selection of persons,

(c) the prohibition on making the human body and its parts as such a source of financial gain,

(d) the prohibition of the reproductive cloning of human beings.

Now, could somebody tell me what makes the EU a "revived nazi party"?

(Sorry if the post isn't coherent, I got the flu
)

[Edited on 4-11-2003 by Paradigm]

Constitutions change. VBERY quickly. Look at Germany 1929...then look to 1933.