Originally posted by Knights
You appear to have misunderstood me. I wasn't for one minute declaring men are being picked on in this post. Rather, if men are accused the general
feeling towards them will be negative, hence the "castrate" them, "death sentance" routine being performed.
If it were that great an issue to men more would be getting falsely accused. BTW.. when people talk about castrating and killing men as punnishment
they are talking about guilty
men not innocent ones. I do not for a minute condone the minority of women who may've falsey reported rape..but
I'm not going to pretend it is as much of a social issue as rape and sexual abuse when it rarely happens in comparison.
According to a nine-year study conducted by former Purdue sociologist Eugene J. Kanin, in over 40 percent of the cases reviewed, the
complainants eventually admitted that no rape had occurred (Archives of Sexual Behavior, Vol. 23, No. 1, 1994). Kanin also studied rape allegations in
two large Midwestern universities and found that 50 percent of the allegations were recanted by the accuser.
Kanin found that most of the false accusers were motivated by a need for an alibi or a desire for revenge.
A link would'v been helpful.. and why does the 40% contradict the FBIs figures?
In 1985 the Air Force conducted a study of 556 rape accusations. Over one quarter of the accusers admitted, either just before they took a
lie detector test of after they had failed it, that no rape occurred. A further investigation by independent reviewers found that 60 percent of the
original rape allegations were false.
The most common reasons the women gave for falsely accusing rape were "spite or revenge," and to compensate for feelings of guilt or shame
The air force in 1985
[incidently a time when making a rape complaint meant that the woman would be crucified for daring to speak out]
would be doing studies on their own not on average citizens. The armed forces are also notorious for 'hazings' and coverups.. they have a public
image to maintain. I'm wondering.. why aren't their stats reflective of the FBI stats? Another thing.. they handle complaints 'in house'..
'independent investigations' [very vague] don't have as much objectivity as criminal investigations so I doubt they'd be objective. I'm also
wondering.. why would female soldiers [/pilots] risk their careers etc for vengence when female soldiers aren't suppose to have relationships with
their comrades? Please post sources that are actually relevent to main populations [ex. FBI].
A Washington Post investigation of rape reports in seven Virginia and Maryland counties in 1990 and 1991 found that nearly one in four
were unfounded. When contacted by the Post, many of the alleged victims admitted that they had lied.
According to a 1996 Department of Justice Report, of the roughly 10,000 sexual assault cases analyzed with DNA evidence over the previous seven years,
2,000 excluded the primary suspect, and another 2,000 were inconclusive.
How does a mention of a newspaper article count as evidence? Those reports were supposedly made within a year in two counties.. again.. what was the
sample population? For all I know they might have chosen four women and one of them lied [or the reporter may've lied]. IMO that could mean anything.
Please read a first hand account.
I'm sorry.. how does one first hand account compare to the millions of first hand accounts from victims? You could search the net for fifty exaples
of false reports but it's not going to make the real ones less legitamate. Again.. I posted the stats before.. your guess of 1 out of 4 women is
Oh and there's also a little thing called 'innocent until proven guilty'.
MEN who are falsely accused of rape will not have their identity protected, ministers ruled yesterday.Jim Wallace, the Scottish Justice
Minister, said women must have their anonymity granted to encourage them to give evidence. Men, however, were already protected by the justice system
and there was no evidence that false accusation was a widespread practice. He was also concerned that it would increase pressure for anonymity
to be granted for other types of crime, including murder.
Marked in bold supports my view. I agree that falsely
accused men should be protected [not at the victim's expence] but if they are convicted
I believe their names should be revealed. Likewise.. if it's proven that a woman has lodged a false complaint she should be charged.
What does that have to do with the topic of increasing awareness of sexual abuse and rape? It's a seperate isue. If you want to raise awareness of
the 2% of rape reports that a false.. start a thread on it.
(although the source is hardly credible).
No it isn't and a newspaper article [blog?
] is not 'evidence'. There are several other official and legitamate sources available that support
the figure I gave you though they vary slightly between countries. Why couldn't you use them instead of biased articles, Airforce stats from 25 years
ago and blogs? I thank you for going to the effort but stats from civil government sources would be appreciated and more credible.
Again.. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I am saying the number you provided is not only incorrect but not relevent to the topic at hand
will not be responding to your issue again. It's starting to annoy me. Have you got ANY ideas to share on how to better protect people from sexual
abuse and [real] rape or do you care more about turning this issue into some sort of anti-male thing by inferring that half of all rape victims are
liars? Thats really innapropriate and selfish IMO.. expecially since there would be victims of rape and sexual abuse on this board who genuinely want
to change things for the better. I don't mean to sund harsh but If you want to discuss mens/accused rights.. start another thread and show some
What may help:
Less sexual objectification of women and girls in the media.. males are still being taught that sexual conquest/domination is still a measure of
success and validation.