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Originally posted by spacedoubt
Is there any information on the camera model used by the photographer?
I'd be curious as to the type of lens that was being used.
Originally posted by Mr_Peel
1) If the camera (I don't recognize the model) has a telephoto lens, the plume would appear larger in the miage.
2) The other possiblility is that the plume was wind-borne from the site toward the photographer when the shot was taken.
3) What doesn't make any sense is the shape. A jet fuel fire would not burn out completely like an explosive charge -- which would produce the 'cherry' shape shown. A jet fuel fire plue would be broccoli-shaped, for lack of a better term.
4) Great work, killtown. Gave you a Way Above partly for this and partly for your 'coincidences' site on 9/11 facts. Please keep up the good work!
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Mrs. McClatchey acknowledged that a lot of people are alleging she fabricated the photo, but she stands by its authenticity. Days after Sept. 11, neighbors saw the image, still in her camera. The camera and computer were new, and she didn't have access to Photoshop or any other photo-altering software.
Originally posted by pmexplorer
keep up the good work.
Can I ask you about your opinions on the following:
If it is proven that Flight 93 did not in fact crash there, what do you think was its most likely final destination?
Or in other words, what became of this plane and its passengers and crew?
And it wasn’t long after the Pentagon had gotten hit that I had heard a very loud surge of an engine. I just turned out to look out my front window and I just caught it, just a glimpse of just a flash and then the explosion had hit. It was forceful enough that it about knocked me off my sofa.
I’d had my digital camera -- was right by the door -- and I ran out and took a photo.
I ran and grabbed my cellphone and got in my truck and tried to call 9/11 -- couldn’t get through. The cell -- we don’t have cell service very well at Indian Lake.
Well the photo, as I said, it was -- that was just an accidental, it was nothing intended.
It sat in my camera for a few days. You know, to me it was just a photograph of something. The state police and the FBI were asking for any photos related to Flight 93.
I downloaded, made a copy of the photo, took it to the state police and within an hour, three FBI agents were in my house.
(These are the signatures of the 3 FBI agents who went to Val's house and took her memory card. Their names are Special Agents David J Hacker, Todd J. Brown, and Phil Lewzander.)
It turns out to be the very first photo taken related. It’s -- timed it out -- it was approximately 5 seconds after impact that I snapped the photo. It was the very first one related. In some of it, I -- apparently the FBI thought it was worthwhile; they took the original memory card.
(This part in the video is confusing. Val said the FBI agents took her camera's memory card, but this clip shows as if the FBI took her computer's hard drive too.)
Narrator: Val as I understand it, your photograph has brought agony and ecstasy. Tell us about the initial reaction of the FBI when they discovered that you had this incredible photograph.
Val: Well the FBI, when they came in, they looked at it on my computer which is a lot clearer. They could actually see, you know, what they appear to be debris flying out from that cloud of smoke which I’m sure with modern technology they could do a little more scientific evidence I believe.
(Here is what Val basically gives you for $20, an 8 1/2 x 11 color computer paper printout.)
Val: Well our life has definitely changed. Right before 9/11, we suffered some severe business loss to the point we were forced to file Chapter 11 with our business. We were in the process of reorganizing and right afterwards the insurance company decided they no longer want to deal with high-risk businesses. I feel that the insurance companies took advantage of the 9/11 situation in general. When we tried to get insurance, we could no longer afford it. The rates have doubled, tripled, quadrupled to the point we couldn’t recoup, so as of Dec. 31st, we ended up losing our business, putting 40 some other people out of work, which is not a great way to start the New Year.
I’d had some health problems. Gall bladder surgery and during the testing for all the gall bladder problems, they found a tumor on my kidney and lesions on my liver, so day after Christmas, I had my gall bladder out. Right after there I went right into taking real estate classes to start a new career to help support my family.
Val: Lot to look forward to, a wedding to plan. I’ve got a great husband that -- he’s been through a lot and he has supported me. We’ve done a complete role-reversal. He’s at home, doing some work at home and I’m the one going out with the briefcase in the morning
We may have lost our company. We may lose my house, but who knows? We might find a nicer house,
Val: I have a young, well my son and his young wife. They just bought a house, looking forward to starting their family. A daughter, who is getting married in May, just found out she has cancer
John C McClatchey
Commercial National Financial Corporation
FINANCIAL / REGIONAL - MIDWEST BANKS
Director since 1990
66 years old
Retired, Former Chief Executive Officer, JCM Industries, Inc. Manufacturer of hardwood lumber and pallets