I have found that my Kel Tec P3at is by far the easiest gun to carry in my collection. It has lightest weight of any .380 auto (11.1 oz. fully loaded)
and when with 6 + 1 Hydra Shocks it is proficient in close quarters confrontation IMHO.
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reply posted on 25-2-2009 @ 07:59 PM by xyankee
reply to post by lakewoodrealtor
I carry a Sig P229, You can get it in 9mm 357, or 40cal. It is the most comfortable, accurate, large cal. carry pistol. I previously had a p89 Ruger and it is a night and day difference. Make sure you get the sig night sights they are worth every penny.
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I carry a Sig P229, You can get it in 9mm 357, or 40cal. It is the most comfortable, accurate, large cal. carry pistol. I previously had a p89 Ruger and it is a night and day difference. Make sure you get the sig night sights they are worth every penny.
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reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 03:21 AM by crzyeyes89
reply to post by lakewoodrealtor
Well I have been looking for a good CCW gun as well and I talked to my brother, who served overseas as a green beret, about it and he suggested the Kel Tec PF 9. He said that he has heard and read nothing but great reviews about it. The best part about it is that you can by this little clip that attaches to the side of the gun that can be used on pockets or just hooked into the waist line of the pants and is concealed on the inside of the pants. There has only been one complaint and it is that the recoil is pretty crazy but that is mainly because it is such a little gun with a good amount of force, but that's never bothered me. Also it is cheap and Kel Tec does free maintenance. If it wasn't that then I would go for the Ruger KP90.
Well I have been looking for a good CCW gun as well and I talked to my brother, who served overseas as a green beret, about it and he suggested the Kel Tec PF 9. He said that he has heard and read nothing but great reviews about it. The best part about it is that you can by this little clip that attaches to the side of the gun that can be used on pockets or just hooked into the waist line of the pants and is concealed on the inside of the pants. There has only been one complaint and it is that the recoil is pretty crazy but that is mainly because it is such a little gun with a good amount of force, but that's never bothered me. Also it is cheap and Kel Tec does free maintenance. If it wasn't that then I would go for the Ruger KP90.
reply posted on 27-6-2009 @ 07:54 PM by dooper
reply to post by crzyeyes89
I carry a .45 1911 Kimber Ultra CDP II with Crimson Trace laser sights, but I'm about to grab the Ruger LCP.
Look at the LCP.
That's going to be my backup.
Ruger really though this one out.
I carry a .45 1911 Kimber Ultra CDP II with Crimson Trace laser sights, but I'm about to grab the Ruger LCP.
Look at the LCP.
That's going to be my backup.
Ruger really though this one out.
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reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 12:51 PM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by dooper
To the OP first...........8 pages, and all the boys bringing out their toys, not one flag???? So, star, and first flag for you. The perfect concealed weapon??? It's a loaded question, or each to their own. I personally carry a glock 21 with ***factory loaded*** Hydra shocks. I like the glock because it doesn't rust, or need care as long as it uses factory ammo. I have magazines which hold 18 rounds, and a laser under the barrel. Not my favorite weapon, but for me the ability to carry it without worries of failure are good.
Dooper??? Kimber?? I had a Kimber, and it was 'decent', but that was it. It was stainless steel, and the worst rusting weapon I've ever had. It felt like an expensive liability. I ended up changing out the barrel, hammer, trigger, and safety to chip Mccormick parts because the factory parts had all rusted.
I didn't expect it to rust so badly, and hadn't paid attention to it because of being stainless, breaking it down was a pain in the *ss..........imo a relying on a kimber is asking for failure; just my opinion.
To the OP first...........8 pages, and all the boys bringing out their toys, not one flag???? So, star, and first flag for you. The perfect concealed weapon??? It's a loaded question, or each to their own. I personally carry a glock 21 with ***factory loaded*** Hydra shocks. I like the glock because it doesn't rust, or need care as long as it uses factory ammo. I have magazines which hold 18 rounds, and a laser under the barrel. Not my favorite weapon, but for me the ability to carry it without worries of failure are good.
Dooper??? Kimber?? I had a Kimber, and it was 'decent', but that was it. It was stainless steel, and the worst rusting weapon I've ever had. It felt like an expensive liability. I ended up changing out the barrel, hammer, trigger, and safety to chip Mccormick parts because the factory parts had all rusted.
I didn't expect it to rust so badly, and hadn't paid attention to it because of being stainless, breaking it down was a pain in the *ss..........imo a relying on a kimber is asking for failure; just my opinion.
reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 01:48 PM by plumranch
reply to post by lakewoodrealtor
A real life bear story (I was carrying):
Last week I was fishing in the Alaska wild in bear country. No one else around. I was fishing in one of those hot once a year salmon holes. What I didn't realize was that I was fishing right where a brown bear like to fish. I was taking his spot.
I had strapped on my 357 mag for the first time in a couple of years, don't know why, just did.
I looked down stream 20 feet and saw a small brown bear coming my way and acting aggressive. I no sooner had the thought to watch out for momma bear when she charged out of the woods, made a loud woof and stopped. I drew the 357 and was about to snap off a few rounds when she disappeared.
In retrospect having a gun was good, having it right handy was good, I just think a bigger caliber would have been nice as that bear was large and it was coming on fast. Since then I have done some target practice to see if I could hit anything and guess what, at first I was missing a lot. Occasional practice is also a good thing!
I have fished Alaska 35 years now and have seen bears many times while fishing. This is the first time I was charged by a bear. I have rarely carried a weapon and I own maybe 50 or so of all calibers.
BTW, I had a friend who was killed by a brownie. Not much left of him after.
A real life bear story (I was carrying):
Last week I was fishing in the Alaska wild in bear country. No one else around. I was fishing in one of those hot once a year salmon holes. What I didn't realize was that I was fishing right where a brown bear like to fish. I was taking his spot.
I had strapped on my 357 mag for the first time in a couple of years, don't know why, just did.
I looked down stream 20 feet and saw a small brown bear coming my way and acting aggressive. I no sooner had the thought to watch out for momma bear when she charged out of the woods, made a loud woof and stopped. I drew the 357 and was about to snap off a few rounds when she disappeared.
In retrospect having a gun was good, having it right handy was good, I just think a bigger caliber would have been nice as that bear was large and it was coming on fast. Since then I have done some target practice to see if I could hit anything and guess what, at first I was missing a lot. Occasional practice is also a good thing!
I have fished Alaska 35 years now and have seen bears many times while fishing. This is the first time I was charged by a bear. I have rarely carried a weapon and I own maybe 50 or so of all calibers.
BTW, I had a friend who was killed by a brownie. Not much left of him after.
reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 02:51 PM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by tjack
Glocks will function flawlessly with factory rounds; they'll go into the 10 of thousands of rounds functioning without cleaning.
A Glock with reloads??? bad idea on multiple fronts. Many guns will handle 'whoopses' in regards to pressure......POW, WOW!!! that was a hot load, but in a glock they'll just blow up with a hot load. Many of the .40 calibers have done just that.
Yep, I think a prosecutor could make a case out of thin air. Their job is to make money for the state.
I trust my reloads, but I trust factory loads more often, Given a good brand, with precision machine manufacturing they'll go off everytime without hesitation. Also, I just don't recommend them in a glock due to lead being used in reloads often, and that increases barrel fowling which increases chamber pressure; which leads to the catastrophic chamber failures.
Glocks will function flawlessly with factory rounds; they'll go into the 10 of thousands of rounds functioning without cleaning.
A Glock with reloads??? bad idea on multiple fronts. Many guns will handle 'whoopses' in regards to pressure......POW, WOW!!! that was a hot load, but in a glock they'll just blow up with a hot load. Many of the .40 calibers have done just that.
Yep, I think a prosecutor could make a case out of thin air. Their job is to make money for the state.
I trust my reloads, but I trust factory loads more often, Given a good brand, with precision machine manufacturing they'll go off everytime without hesitation. Also, I just don't recommend them in a glock due to lead being used in reloads often, and that increases barrel fowling which increases chamber pressure; which leads to the catastrophic chamber failures.
reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 03:08 PM by OmegaLogos
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medical expert in any field. Beware of my Contagious Memes! & watch out that you don't get cut on my Occams razor.All of this is my personal
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Explanation: my choices would vary amongst the following according to the job its required to fill.
Walther PPK AKA Bonds Weapon of Choice!
Note that it comes in various calibres!
Revolvers
I'd have anything between a .22 and a .38 due to to my physique and their reliability!
Super Shorty! Small Shotgun!
I dream about owning one of these!
Uzi's! The smaller ones like the micro and the pistol!
Classic firepower on tap! And once again they come in a range of calibres!
Personal Disclosure: As I was researching for info for this post I came across this webpage titled Surviving in Argentina: Reply: Weapon of Choice. [I was searching for secret service weapons of choice!] and some of what was said was quite interesting, but the bit I loved the most and I quote it here was "Subcompacts are intended as backup. If I were you I'd carry a standard or compact as a main carry gun, nothing smaller, plus a subcompact in the same caliber.
I know its more comfortable, but it's not a pair of panties, it's a gun for life and death situations. You want all the capacity, power (short barrel reduces fps) and accuracy you can get. ".
Explanation: my choices would vary amongst the following according to the job its required to fill.
Walther PPK AKA Bonds Weapon of Choice!
Note that it comes in various calibres!
Revolvers
I'd have anything between a .22 and a .38 due to to my physique and their reliability!
Super Shorty! Small Shotgun!
I dream about owning one of these!
Uzi's! The smaller ones like the micro and the pistol!
Classic firepower on tap! And once again they come in a range of calibres!
Personal Disclosure: As I was researching for info for this post I came across this webpage titled Surviving in Argentina: Reply: Weapon of Choice. [I was searching for secret service weapons of choice!] and some of what was said was quite interesting, but the bit I loved the most and I quote it here was "Subcompacts are intended as backup. If I were you I'd carry a standard or compact as a main carry gun, nothing smaller, plus a subcompact in the same caliber.
I know its more comfortable, but it's not a pair of panties, it's a gun for life and death situations. You want all the capacity, power (short barrel reduces fps) and accuracy you can get. ".
reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 03:45 PM by dooper
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones
Sorry you had bad luck with your Kimber. I've bet my very life on weapons before, and I'm betting my life on this Kimber .45.
Rust?
I have weapons that are forty and fifty years old, not counting my black powder weapons that date back to the late 1800's and I've never, ever had a rust problem on any of them.
Not once. Not one weapon. Not the first time.
Of course, I take care of my weapons, and then they return the favor. Stainless doesn't mean rust-proof.
To say you don't have to clean or worry about your Glock? While a Glock is the last pistol in the world I'd carry, that's just a very bad approach. You can get away with that mentality for a while, but events will eventually catch up.
Sorry you had bad luck with your Kimber. I've bet my very life on weapons before, and I'm betting my life on this Kimber .45.
Rust?
I have weapons that are forty and fifty years old, not counting my black powder weapons that date back to the late 1800's and I've never, ever had a rust problem on any of them.
Not once. Not one weapon. Not the first time.
Of course, I take care of my weapons, and then they return the favor. Stainless doesn't mean rust-proof.
To say you don't have to clean or worry about your Glock? While a Glock is the last pistol in the world I'd carry, that's just a very bad approach. You can get away with that mentality for a while, but events will eventually catch up.
reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 04:00 PM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by dooper
Hey, I just threw out my opinion, and experiences. Kimber has changed ownership since they came out, and I got one of the lower quality ones I'm sure.
I carried it up north were climate was a big issue.
I carry the Glock in Guatemala/Honduras where climate is of issues as well. Never ever had a problem with the glock...
On the note of a 1911 style; Now when up north I've settled on my Colt 1911a1. It's an older one with low profile fixed sites, but I put a crimson trace laser grip on it, and it's great. I've never had the problems of rust with it; which the kimber had.
Hey, I just threw out my opinion, and experiences. Kimber has changed ownership since they came out, and I got one of the lower quality ones I'm sure.
I carried it up north were climate was a big issue.
I carry the Glock in Guatemala/Honduras where climate is of issues as well. Never ever had a problem with the glock...
On the note of a 1911 style; Now when up north I've settled on my Colt 1911a1. It's an older one with low profile fixed sites, but I put a crimson trace laser grip on it, and it's great. I've never had the problems of rust with it; which the kimber had.
reply posted on 6-8-2009 @ 04:03 PM by dooper
reply to post by sanchoearlyjones
Thanks for the clarification as I was scratching my head over the Kimber.
Yeah! I live in Florida and while that's not the same as the places you have been, humidity here is a royal bitch.
Thanks for the clarification as I was scratching my head over the Kimber.
Yeah! I live in Florida and while that's not the same as the places you have been, humidity here is a royal bitch.
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