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Originally posted by observe50
You can make cloud busters that work with just putting the pipe and makings into the ground it doesn't have to be in water. You can make them for several dollars with pipe, coil shavings, crystals and a few other cheap items, which you can get at Walmart and the car supply stores like Pep Boys.
[edit on 27-10-2006 by observe50]
Originally posted by Shawnna
Individuals like Burisch and other known frauds would have no outlet without hoaxers and charlatans like Bill Ryan.
Why do you think Bill got the boot from ATS??? When it was proven that he was being deceptive, he was escorted to the door. No one should ever knowingly promote a hoaxer and con man. Ever. Period.
Think about it this way - I can make up a great story, create an identity, offer no proof and if it appeals to those who put away their critical thinking skills when it comes to areas like this, Bill Ryan will interview me and then promote the video.
What exactly do you find valuable in that approach?
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
Well if you use a source which has lost his reputation then you have every right to be questioned, the peoples have every right to say what they will about your post because it is associated with the source which has no credibility.
What is my definition of proof? ... Well that easy, it is a mix of a well thought out presentation where all parties finally agree on a similar explanation. I want photos, I want government documents, I want high level OFFICIAL people to testify. I want the pay stubs and the tax filings of all these "whistle blowers" and I want government files on every last one of them, I want to know where they worked, when they worked, their secrecy clearance, I want their source of education, I want mental evaluations of all those involved. Then I want full scientific backing of all claims, I want to know how everything works the way it works, if you honestly want to debunk everything NASA has told us, that our science teachers sense kindergarten have taught us.. then I want the EXACT same proof they gave us, only in your claims. That is, NASA can say why Mars is red and they can give us detailed reasons why.. John Lear can say that a man who no longer speaks to him told him a story once so its credible.
Lemme put like this. Tolkien wrote the Lord Of The Rings trilogy... he sure did give a good description of his world.. but does that mean Middle Earth exist?...
Harry Potter series is a work of literary genius.. you could almost think it must be real.. if you where 5 right?
Any one can right down anything they so wish to.. the Internet has made it so no one needs a professor to say its right or wrong, no one needs an editor.. no one needs to back up their claims.. essentially .. you can lie your pants off and there are people dumb enough to believe it.
Your story, their story I should say.. has NO CREDIBILITY REGARDLESS OF WHO SAYS IT. They have no proof.. they have a claim.. a claim is so absurd that it requires SOME KIND of proof before it should even be faintly considered. If it where presented to a scientific community they would laugh them out of the room, and rightfully so.
Carry on.. where all adults, most of us, most of us act like it anyways right? .. Lets keep thinking there is a parallel world that only the super human minded government knows about.
At some point in life fairy tales should end..
Originally posted by GeeGee
Thanks for the post, great interviews.
As far as proof goes...
This is just a guess but, if any of these people had irrefutable proof of what they had to say, the government would probably chase them down like a dog.
I have worked as an engineer in the aerospace and defence industries most of my career. During which I have worked with hundreds of engineers and scientists. Frankly, Dan B and Bob L. don't strike me as having the least bit of technical expertise.