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Topic started on 9-8-2006 @ 02:56 AM by RiotComing
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Now, I realise Bill Ryan's reputation at ATS is not the best. The Serpo debacle brought him nothing but scorn, pitchforks and distrust. In spite of
this, I found Bill's postings here to be gentlemanly, and like the rest of us here, trying to get to the truth of the matter. He admitted himself
that Serpo was a platform for the information to come to light, that there was the possibility that the information could be partly or completely
false. Serpo turned out to be a hoax, and well.. Bill Ryan became nothing but a dirty smell around here.
Enter Project Camelot. This is his initiative to collate a disclosure effort, and so far, not
only have the testimonies been impressive, I've found each interview to be simply incredible. Everything covered on a day-to-day basis here at ATS
seems to gel perfectly with the topics brought forward by each interview participant. I was also very impressed with the interviewing technique - the
questions both paraphrase and clarify, which allows the information to be easily-digestible, sufficiently-detailed, and flows. I watched the
interviews in the following order, which I think had a good flow to proceedings:
1) Mr X interview (wma format)
2) Bill Hamilton interview (wma format). This was an excellent interview. One of the great things about this is the credit given to John Lear.
John, if you're reading this thread, you have praised heaped on you from Bill. I wonder if you could concur if what he said about Bob Lazar is
correct - that he had his mind 'tinkered with' and now doesn't really talk about UFOs. Also Bill said that Steven Greer came to him initially for
his first crop of witnesses for The Disclosure Project. Like I said, things tie in together so well.
3) Gary McKinnon interview - now I found this to be a great interview - the guy is just like you and me, and just trying to get the truth, and the
interview is so informal and relaxed and having a casual beer - he's about as normal as you could be being in his position. I like what Gary stands
for - those who have said here "he should cut a deal to join them instead and help their security team" don't really know where Gary's values come
from. He's an amiable and very normal bloke in my opinion.
4) Dan Burisch interview (mp4 format - now I watched this with VLC Media Player) - this interview is UNMISSABLE. I must warn, the subect matters will
blow your mind - we are talking about portals, stargates, first hand encounters with ETs, MIBs, 2012, timelines - the content is frankly quite
frightening and will freak your mind. One thing is for sure, I guarantee, this interview WILL NOT BORE YOU!
Sorry about the brevity of this thread. I typed up a more eloquent version about 20 minutes ago, only for my mouse to suddenly stop on me while
switching tabs and I accidentally 'crossed off' the webpage while typing. GRRRRRRR!! All that typing for nothing! So I'm doing this in notepad and
will paste it so I don't lose what I'm writing this time. Now I realise this will still not please those who will not accept anything less than a
bunch of little green men tap-dancing on the White House lawn, but the testimonies presented here are compelling and highly-detailed and.. you know
what? I believe them. I believe them all.. I think they all present a piece of the puzzle.. if you draw together all the different things you see and
hear everyday on the ufo phenomena / govt agenda.. if you read between the lines.. you will see the truth begin to unravel in front of your eyes.
So sorry again for not being on top of my game as this is being typed up in a hurry, but just thought I will start a thread in support for Bill Ryan
and bring awareness of this Project Camelot disclosure initiative.
The website's video interviews can be found at:
projectcamelot.org...
Thanks all for reading!
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reply posted on 9-8-2006 @ 03:50 AM by mikesingh
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Fascinating! But my point here is that why have Dan Burisch and others who claim to have had close associations with a J-Rod and ETs, not produced an
iota of evidence to back up their claims? Why no photographs? No vids? No nothing.
So we're back to square one. Interviews and books are fine. We've gone through all that before. But it's high time we graduate to the next level
and get some EVIDENCE.
Darn. we've been waiting for this for a thousand years and still no proof!
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reply posted on 9-8-2006 @ 04:26 AM by RiotComing
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I agree, it is disheartening. I think many of us are reasonably convinced by what the 'talking heads' have to say - the only thing required is just
one shred, one slither of irrefutable tangible visual proof, to back it all up. The stories all match, the agenda makes its own sense, the evidence
provided is as varied as it is earth-shaking. All we need is one of these guys to come forward with a couple of pictures, and it's game on.
Dan Burisch sounds like he has more up his sleeve. He's been given orders by Majestic to disclose what he knows by the end of 2006, so who knows, he
may have one or two aces yet to come.
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reply posted on 22-8-2006 @ 05:40 AM by RiotComing
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Bumping as there is a new addition on the Project Camelot site - Ralph Ring - who worked on free energy devices and flying disks before being shut
down by authorities. Interestingly, his partner Otis Carr was a protege of Tesla. Lots of photographs and diagrams, with video interview soon to come.
projectcamelot.org...
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reply posted on 25-9-2006 @ 09:35 AM by RiotComing
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Bumping this thread again as the Project Camelot site has been updated with an interview with 'our own' John Lear! Downloading now, will watch
later.
Surprised with the lack of interest in this thread. I realise Bill Ryan lost credibility big time with Serpo but the information coming from Project
Camelot has been fascinating and essential viewing, I cannot stress this enough. Seems that Bill and John both have common mountaineering interests.
I'm looking forward to watching this - should be a cracker!
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reply posted on 25-9-2006 @ 10:52 AM by justgeneric
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I think, well..when I read the thread header...I couldn't help it but I rolled my eyes and immediately thought, "Oh great...here we go again..."
Now, you know what...Project camelot I see it going to that same, terrible, and painfully drawn out place that Slurpo did...
Honestly, makes my stomach churn regardless of how badly I'd like there to be some small glimmer of truth...
I see the next phase...straight into the scrap heap, and Bill Ryan, again, abondoning one and jumping right onto another more fantastical claim made
by yet another Mr. X...
I don't know who, or even how disclosure will come about. I'd like to think it will happen before I die...but it's doubtful.
Will Ryan be the one to break it wide open?
*yawn* no.
But hey, it's a great bit of sci-fi...
IMHO...yeah I watched it, and it's bunk.
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reply posted on 25-9-2006 @ 02:07 PM by jbondo
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It really looked as though they were trying to get John to support Serpo in this interview. You notice Bill Ryan is there but the Cassidy chick does
most of the talking with John. I believe Bill was silent on purpose thru most of the interview because of ATS.
So if they could get support from John for Serpo then maybe ATS (and other scoffers) would reconsider. John chose his words wisely on the subject
though as I'm sure he knew that they may try to get that support.
JMO
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reply posted on 25-9-2006 @ 03:03 PM by behindthescenes
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Originally posted by RiotComing
Dan Burisch sounds like he has more up his sleeve. He's been given orders by Majestic to disclose what he knows by the end of 2006, so who knows, he
may have one or two aces yet to come.
Comeon all.....Burisch is a "homemaker" apparently. And his wife also is a Casino phone operator.
Secret government agents don't go bankrupt publically.
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reply posted on 25-9-2006 @ 06:56 PM by RiotComing
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just thought I'd answer some of the things brought up here (good to finally see some reaction.. though disappointed it's not more positive)-
IMHO...yeah I watched it, and it's bunk.
All of it? Each interview? Even Gary MacKinnon? None of what Gary said rang true for you? Wow. Just wow.
Now, you know what...Project camelot I see it going to that same, terrible, and painfully drawn out place that Slurpo did...
Ah, now I see why you would dismiss the lot, without reasonable consideration of every participant involved.
You notice Bill Ryan is there but the Cassidy chick does most of the talking with John. I believe Bill was silent on purpose thru most of the
interview because of ATS.
Perhaps.. but Bill is actually 'silent' for the most part of ALL the interviews, not just John's. It's like he's playing a passive role,
occasionally coming up with any points not covered by Kerry.
Comeon all.....Burisch is a "homemaker" apparently. Secret government agents don't go bankrupt publically.
Well in this interview, John is in support of Dan. They ask him if he's seen the Project Camelot interview with Dan and he hasn't seen it (darn I
wish this thread had more exposure so John could have seen it earlier). And anyway, how do you know how secret government agents are treated? Tom
Clancy novels? Did you actually watch the Dan Burisch interview? Cmon guys, it sounds like you're not giving these people a fair go. It's like
you've judged them before even giving them a fair chance. Aren't we supposed to be denying ignorance and opening up every possible horizon here?
It's fine to have a good reason to trash these people but it sounds like you've just made up your mind and that's that, no matter what they say,
it's all going to be bunk anyway, and that's sad. John himself mentions in this interview he regrets treating Phil Schneider in a similar way when
Schneider came to him. We could all learn this lesson, I feel.
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reply posted on 25-9-2006 @ 07:17 PM by johnlear
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Originally posted by RiotComing
This was an excellent interview. One of the great things about this is the credit given to John Lear. John, if you're reading this
thread, you have praised heaped on you from Bill. I wonder if you could concur if what he said about Bob Lazar is correct - that he had his mind
'tinkered with' and now doesn't really talk about UFOs.
Bob certainly had his mind tinkered with but whether or not that tinkering is related to why Bob doesn't talk about UFO's anymore I'm not sure. Bob
just hates UFO nuts. On the other hand I know that he has given several interviews to major TV programs in the past year or so about the subject. Bob
hasn't answered my phone messages or emails since December of 2005. The last question I asked was how many chargons can orbit an SMU and I got no
answer.
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reply posted on 25-9-2006 @ 10:16 PM by m3rlz
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is it just me or is that site like super-freakin'-slow? i downloaded the interview with Mr. Lear earlier and was watching it, then it cut off about
half way through... apparently i didn't get the entire download the first time around so i am redownloading it, and it's downloading at like less
than 10kb/s... perhaps they are just getting hammered at the moment... and perhaps, if the ones who own the site don't care, someone could maybe
setup a mirror site for the interviews or upload them to one of those file sharing hosts... i look forward to seeing the rest of the interview soon,
it has been interesting so far...
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reply posted on 25-9-2006 @ 10:19 PM by SearchEngine
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I had the same problem getting the interviews a while back. For some reason when i downloaded the Quicktime version it was a lot easier to get than
the windows media player version.
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reply posted on 25-9-2006 @ 10:24 PM by m3rlz
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thx mang... i cancelled the WMV and am now downloading the QT one... still just as slow but hopefully i'll get the whole thing this time...
[edit] nope... the download quit after like 4 MB, fock! maybe my connection just blows at the moment, will try again tomorrow... [/edit]
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reply posted on 25-9-2006 @ 10:38 PM by S1LV3R4D0
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Burisch/Deppelers stories have been ripped apart here many times during the slurpo ordeal by Centrist/Shawnna and a few others. As soon as i seen Dan
Burisch's name attached to those i went  so much for that try mr ryan.
John, what is your take on this little attempt by Ryan to try again at the UFO bit.
ATS Google Search
A good debunking job
There are oh so more. But in all fairness, i will pull the vids and watch them all to make sure im not talkin out of the side of my neck once more.
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reply posted on 25-9-2006 @ 10:46 PM by Sophismata
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Originally posted by mikesingh
Why no photographs? No vids? No nothing.
So we're back to square one. Interviews and books are fine. We've gone through all that before. But it's high time we graduate to the next level
and get some EVIDENCE.
Yeah, seriously.. Is this whole enterprise (ufos, aliens) going to be about interviews, DVDs for sale, books, seminars, etc? Or is something *real*
ever going to happen? You know - real evidence. I wish there was a flag that could be set on a thread when some actual reputable evidence gets
posted. I could look for that flag and read THOSE threads while the others peter out.
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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 07:02 AM by johnlear
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Originally posted by behindthescenes
Comeon all.....Burisch is a "homemaker" apparently. And his wife also is a Casino phone operator.
Secret government agents don't go bankrupt publically.
Bob Lazar operated a photo developing business out of his laundry room while working at S-4. He formerly operated a cathouse, the 'Honeysuckle
Ranch' in northern Nevada and filed bankruptcy after moving to Las Vegas to start the photo developing business in the mid 1980's.
There is a certain diabolical madness in who the government hires to work on super secret projects which includes employing talented people they can
instantly discredit.
And before you rush to discredit Bob, who told us first about SMU's and chargons? Or that there was 2 types of gravity, gravity A and gravity B and
that gravity was instantaneous?
And for those of you still playing 'catch up' please disregard this post. Thanks.
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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 09:01 AM by jbondo
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I don't think anyone can discredit Bob. Furthermore, there are so many geniuses out there that just don't fit into regular society, many of which
never attended college. I don't believe John Hutchinson ever attended a class. He is a very strange type but I also found him to be a genuinely nice
guy.
I'm sure the government is always on the lookout for these types that as John remarked, they can easily discredit in a pinch.
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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 09:11 AM by behindthescenes
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Originally posted by johnlear
Originally posted by behindthescenes
Comeon all.....Burisch is a "homemaker" apparently. And his wife also is a Casino phone operator.
Secret government agents don't go bankrupt publically.
Bob Lazar operated a photo developing business out of his laundry room while working at S-4. He formerly operated a cathouse, the 'Honeysuckle
Ranch' in northern Nevada and filed bankruptcy after moving to Las Vegas to start the photo developing business in the mid 1980's.
There is a certain diabolical madness in who the government hires to work on super secret projects which includes employing talented people they can
instantly discredit.
And before you rush to discredit Bob, who told us first about SMU's and chargons? Or that there was 2 types of gravity, gravity A and gravity B and
that gravity was instantaneous?
And for those of you still playing 'catch up' please disregard this post. Thanks.
No offence John, but I rank Lazar up there with Burisch as well. So your argument is a little flimsy here.
Be that as it may, this man was a parole officer, a security guard for casinos in Vegas and a homemaker -- all while apparently working in Area 51?
When did he sleep?
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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 10:17 AM by johnlear
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Originally posted by behindthescenes
No offence John, but I rank Lazar up there with Burisch as well. So your argument is a little flimsy here.
Be that as it may, this man was a parole officer, a security guard for casinos in Vegas and a homemaker -- all while apparently working in Area 51?
When did he sleep?
No offense taken behindthescenes, if i hadn't lived the Bob Lazar story from the beginning I wouldn't have believed it either. It was the most
exciting time of my life.
As far as Dan Burisch I have seen about 5 hours of video tape. My opinion is that he worked at S-4. Burisch is being used by MJ-12 in the Serpo scam
and as the scam plays out I will tell you how. I have already posted, in other threads what I think is going to happen and why regarding the Serpo
story.
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reply posted on 26-9-2006 @ 07:43 PM by m3rlz
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i still cannot seem to download more than 50 MB of the interview with Mr. Lear (in either format), or any of the other interviews in their entirety...
would someone please upload this to google video or something? projectcamelot just does not seem to like me for some reason, d'oh! i did find that
google video has the interview with Dan B. but i haven't watched it yet...
video.google.com...
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