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Hard to be a conservative

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posted on Aug, 9 2006 @ 02:22 AM
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Is it just me because I have noticided for quite some time that if you are conservative on this website you are attacked and bashed at every turn. If you say you support Israel you are attacked, if you support Iraq you are attacked and accused of supporting killers and theives.




posted on Aug, 9 2006 @ 06:59 PM
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It's not that being a conservative is hard, it's just being a liberal is too easy! No thought required!



posted on Aug, 9 2006 @ 07:01 PM
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Or it could be because everything you listed is true. Not that I care. I'm what some might call an opportunist.



posted on Aug, 9 2006 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
It's not that being a conservative is hard, it's just being a liberal is too easy! No thought required!

totally agree man.



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 04:33 PM
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Yes, it can be difficult or annoying, etc. to be a conservative around here reading posts from some people. But, I think our presence is required to keep things balanced and stop the liberal duck-speak from totally taking over



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 04:53 PM
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It works both ways!! If You like I can dredge up some of the threads where liberals were called "tulip walkers" traitors, terrorist sympathizers, bush bashers, pinkos, etc.

Just quit whining; what ever your ideology. If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch or go over to some board where everyone is on the same page.

It's the "edge" that makes this such a stimulating site. VIVA ATS, PTS!!!

[edit on 10-8-2006 by whaaa]


df1

posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 09:43 PM
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Originally posted by spinstopshere
Is it just me because I have noticided for quite some time that if you are conservative on this website you are attacked and bashed at every turn. If you say you support Israel you are attacked, if you support Iraq you are attacked and accused of supporting killers and theives.

You demonstrated that you are a republican partisan, but you've provided nothing to demonstrate that you are a conservative. A lot of republicans run around claiming to be conservatives, but they are nothing other than faith based social democrats with a hawkish bent. It is these guys that are giving real conservatives a bad name.

Why do you think you are a conservative?



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 10:19 PM
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You want proof i am a conservative. Let's see I support bush, want to secure the border, don't believe in the 9/11 conspiracy. That should be enough.


df1

posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by spinstopshere
You want proof i am a conservative. Let's see I support bush, want to secure the border, don't believe in the 9/11 conspiracy. That should be enough.

Securing our borders is a conservative issue, however I dont think the other two are a fit. Bush is republican, but he is in no way a conservative. Belief or disbelief in the official 9/11 story has nothing to do with political ideology.

Perhaps you could expand more on your views about government economic policy. At this point Im still unconvinced that you are a conservative.



posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by spinstopshere
You want proof i am a conservative. Let's see I support bush, want to secure the border, don't believe in the 9/11 conspiracy. That should be enough.


Do you even know what a conservative is. From Websters.
conservative

typified by a lack of flamboyance: cautious: reserved or moderate-i one who is reserved or moderate in manner.

Hardly what i would call someone who supports Bush, or even Bush himself!

conservatism

n a policy that advocates moderation, or opposition to change.

Yeh thats Bush and his cronies to a tee!


Edit, sorry bad punctuation.

[edit on 11/8/06 by mojo4sale]



posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 01:04 AM
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A conservative like me believes America doesn't need drastic changes and only needs minor ones.



posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 01:57 AM
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So Bush's policy's arent causing more than minor changes in America. I dont know, im asking, not being smart.



posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 02:00 AM
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"So Bush's policy's arent causing more than minor changes in America. I dont know, im asking, not being smart."

It is good to ask questions but you are right I wouldn't call them minor but most aren't that massive of changes.



posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 02:03 AM
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dont you see a flaw in your argument then.

US foreign policy seems to be a massive change.


df1

posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by mojo4sale
US foreign policy seems to be a massive change.

Giving away tax payers dollars to aide foreign governments and engaging in nation building is not in line with traditional conservative doctrine. The unbridled spending on foreign aide & the military is completely contrary to conservative economic principles. The only real conservative in the entire republican congress is Ron Paul. Im not sure how to label the rest of these legislators, but I am quite sure they are not conservative.

This thread would have been better titled "Hard To Find A Conservative".
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posted on Aug, 12 2006 @ 01:51 PM
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Conservatives are suppose to spend little, and have a small government. Yet under Bush he has spent more money then any other president and has expanded the government to an all new mega size. So, Bush is not a conservative.

Bill CLinton was more of a conservative, and is known as the best republican in office since Reagan by some when it came to economics. Bush? He's been the greatest Communist/Socialist giving BILLIONS OF TAX PAYER DOLLARS TO OIL COMPANIES. That's right, he gives Government money to Oil COmpaines, sounds like a COmmie/Socialist to me. Isn't Capitalism about survival of the fittest companies, not being given billions by them government?


df1

posted on Aug, 12 2006 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Theory Man
Bush he has spent more money then any other president and has expanded the government to an all new mega size. So, Bush is not a conservative.

Exactly, so all of these bush supporters that claim to be conservatives are really nothing more than corporate socialists slandering the conservative ideology with their claims of being conservative. The sad part is that the educational system in the US has so dumbed down these phoney conservatives that they truely believe that they are conservative. However to be fair, the liberal threads seems to be filled with phoney liberals that aren't liberal, but believe that they are.
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posted on Aug, 12 2006 @ 03:36 PM
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Conservatism can be activist if the active steps taken are to roll back changes made by previous liberal governments.



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by spinstopshere
Is it just me because I have noticided for quite some time that if you are conservative on this website you are attacked and bashed at every turn. If you say you support Israel you are attacked


I'm liberal Democrat, and I support Israel. Democrats support Israel. Most liberals support Israel. A clear majority of the American people support Israel.

That issue's a non starter.

It's the wingnuts who don't, but we have them both parties, and we usually try to shudder them away, like that crazy, drunken Aunt at Christmas, don't we?



posted on Aug, 13 2006 @ 12:14 PM
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Ok Spinstop, why are you conservative? It can't be because you support Bush because he is a liberal. If you supported someone like, hmmm, trying to think of a non-neoconservative that is just a puppet to the NWO... Michael Badnarik, but he isn't in power anywhere, but still a conservative.

John McCain before Bush43 would have been a good choice, but now Bush43 has ruined him. Same with Colin Powell. I think TOm Delay was actually conservative but he's going to jail and blah blah blah so not going to use him.



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