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Originally posted by ceci2006
Originally quoted by Majic
I don't think this is a very fair thing to say.
Perhaps we could be more constructive?
Yes, Majic. It was not a fair thing to say. But nevertheless it is true.
Suppose, you had someone in a post insult your parents,
insult your committment to "deny bigotry",
I do not like people who treat others badly of all races. Especially when they fingerwag and "play dumb".
Originally posted by ceci2006
Suppose, you had someone in a post insult your parents,
Originally posted by riley
Have they? Thats awful.. care to provide a reference to it?
And I invite you to deny the lies told to you by your parents, just as I denied the lies told to me by mine about black people.
Originally posted by HarlemHottie
And I invite you to deny the lies told to you by your parents, just as I denied the lies told to me by mine about black people.
I left out who said it because I didn't feel that information was neccesary to show that it has been said.
Originally posted by ceci2006
I would love to read and be informed on "Anti-White" bigotry ...
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
And I invite you to deny the lies told to you by your parents, just as I denied the lies told to me by mine about black people.
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I just know that I picked up racism from my parents and I remember the moment I realized that they were wrong about black people. I assumed that you picked up at least part of how you feel about white people from your parents. I apologize if this assumption is incorrect.
Originally posted by ceci2006
And yes, I did accept the apology about my parents.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
But my point is - You, HH, have told me that many black people feel the same way that Ceci does. This is not hopeful for race relations. It puts fear and doubt into my mind. See, I thought we had come further than that. Now, knowing that many black people feel about white people the way Ceci does about me... That scares the crap out of me and does absolutely nothing for the advancement of race relations. To know that they might refer to white people as "Miss Scarlett" and think that's not a racist thing to do? Yeah, that's a scary thing indeed.
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But I'm hoping to go on and actually not believe you when you say that many blacks feel the same way that Ceci does.
Originally posted by ceci2006
I've said all along that BH and myself have power issues to work out. When I said it the first time, I related this to a type of power issue. It's not my fault she does not want to work out her end of the "power issue".
Originally posted by ceci2006
Now we can talk about culture again. However, no one has ever answered whether they would give up their culture, heritage and language for the benefit of Black people in society?
Originally posted by WestPoint23
Note: I will no longer participate in this thread unless it gets back on track, and I very much intend to keep my word.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I, too, will only participate in this thread as regards the original subject matter.
If anyone reading this doubts me and my character because I've been misquoted or misrepresented, I strongly suggest you look up my actual words.
Originally posted by ceci2006
One of the most arrogant things I've read so far is the fact jsobecky said that some Blacks celebrate Kwanzaa instead of Christmas?
Originally posted by FlyersFan
ON TOPIC -
It is very possible to hold onto heritage while at the same time being progressive and responsible members of society. However, to hold on too tightly to the past can weight a person down and hold them back as well. Healthy balance is required. Open eyes. Open mind. Just becausue something was done a certain way for a long time doesn't mean that is how it should be done.
Segregation was a part of southern culture. To hold onto that culture would have been bad for society and for the souls involved. It had to go. Slavery was a part of culture in parts of this country 150+ years ago. It had to go.
Some cultures and heritages can be held onto. Some have to go.
Originally posted by jsobecky
But, it's sad, because that is exactly what the goal was. Now the thread has lost two intelligent, well-intentioned members, and the vitriol against other members will continue.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I, too, will only participate in this thread as regards the original subject matter.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
It is very possible to hold onto heritage while at the same time being progressive and responsible members of society.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
However, to hold on too tightly to the past can weight a person down and hold them back as well. Healthy balance is required. Open eyes. Open mind. Just becausue something was done a certain way for a long time doesn't mean that is how it should be done.