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Originally posted by ArMaP
Originally posted by Akraites
A lot of countries are pretty open when it comes to UFO's.
Then why aren't those countries' evidences talked about?
Can you point me to some official (or almost official) sites?
Originally posted by thesneakiod
It looks like you robbed all my quotes(not word for word) from a thread i posted
a couple of days ago!
we have not one shred of proof/evidence at all, not one single tiny bit of footage that makes us go THATS IT! THERE HERE!
Originally posted by leapofdreams
I agree to an extent there is no complete proof. But you seem to complete close off any ability to have an open non biased approach. You are simply doing the same thing that full believers do. You are stating there is no way we are not being visited there are no other life forms and you are completely stern in your approach that there is nothing and never will be. I fully believe in being sceptical however discounting everything in completion is not sceptic. It is simply denouncing the idea in its entirety. I admit that it is possible that everything we see in the sky could very well be government( god forbid they have that technology) I also believe there is a possibility that we very well could be being visited by ET life.
Your original post however leads to the idea that you believe that there is no other life at all in the universe. That to me is an archaic idea that bases back to the foundations of religion and the arrogant idea that we are the center of the universe and we above all are special. You should look into the drake equation. As you know the planets do not revolve around the earth and we are only a particle of dust on the edge of a galaxy among trillions of galaxy's. To think think we are the only life form is laughable. Now i do not know if ET 's are visiting our planet or not. My arguments are completely different than your however. I believe we are insects on the scale of universal intelligence and what possible benefit would an advanced civilization gain by visiting a planet of talking monkeys hell bent on killing them selves off. I definitely do not think we are the only life forms and i don't think we are special. The true question is distance and ways to over come distances. That is the problem does any other life form in the universe have the ability to circumvent massive distances. And if they do what possible reason would they want to see us. If we are being visited it is simply a vacation spot to observe a severely limited life form. Do you really believe there is no other life any where in the universe but are own?
Originally posted by ArMaP
Originally posted by thesneakiod
It looks like you robbed all my quotes(not word for word) from a thread i posted
a couple of days ago!
I never had the intention of robbing (strong word) your quotes or anyone else's quotes.
If you are talking about this thread, I didn't read it beyond your first post, because you said:
we have not one shred of proof/evidence at all, not one single tiny bit of footage that makes us go THATS IT! THERE HERE!
You see, I have a slightly different opinion, I know that there have been many cases of sightings of UFOs (I know two cases, one in my family), I just want to separate the "wheat from the chaff", the real, credible sources, from the dubious ones.
If you think that I started this thread just to "harvest points" (I saw that you say that in that thread) tell me then why do I need those points, I just do not have any use to ones I have, and since I joined ATS 2 years ago I only used them to put an avatar and to have access to RATS.
If you think that you are being victim of a "thread hijacking", then I suggest you talk to the mods, using the "complain" button on top of the page, if the mods decide to close or "kill" my thread it will be their decision.
If the other members decide to ignore this thread and use your thread is their decision.
Originally posted by FibroKat
In the late fifties to early sixties, while flying an Air Force plane in the US, he was notified by the radar operator of a "bogey" coming up on his left wing-tip. As the bogey got closer, they watched out of the left side of the plane to see what was coming up on them. What they saw was a saucer-shaped object, metallic, with viewing ports (or windows) that were clear enough for him to see the occupants inside. He noticed that they weren't human occupants, and that the clothing they wore were "uniform-like" in appearance, but had nothing that could be described as insignia or rank on them. The outfits were not the silvery-metallic spacesuits usually described in science fiction movies. From his vantage-point, the creatures in the craft were 4-5 foot tall with a "lightish" skin tone, and no distinquishing marks (he didn't say exactly what color the skin was). The craft stayed even with the plane for several minutes before taking off at a high rate of speed and disappearing in a matter of seconds.
Originally posted by leapofdreams
I don't even now whyyour are freakin out, it was aimed at ArMaP.
Originally posted by ArMaP
Originally posted by thesneakiod
It looks like you robbed all my quotes(not word for word) from a thread i posted
a couple of days ago!
I never had the intention of robbing (strong word) your quotes or anyone else's quotes.
If you are talking about this thread, I didn't read it beyond your first post, because you said:
we have not one shred of proof/evidence at all, not one single tiny bit of footage that makes us go THATS IT! THERE HERE!
You see, I have a slightly different opinion, I know that there have been many cases of sightings of UFOs (I know two cases, one in my family), I just want to separate the "wheat from the chaff", the real, credible sources, from the dubious ones.
If you think that I started this thread just to "harvest points" (I saw that you say that in that thread) tell me then why do I need those points, I just do not have any use to ones I have, and since I joined ATS 2 years ago I only used them to put an avatar and to have access to RATS.
If you think that you are being victim of a "thread hijacking", then I suggest you talk to the mods, using the "complain" button on top of the page, if the mods decide to close or "kill" my thread it will be their decision.
If the other members decide to ignore this thread and use your thread is their decision.
Originally posted by thesneakiod
WOAH! Steady there cowboy. You can't deny that it was a very similar thread
the things you stated i agree with, its just they were put into different words but they
basically meant the same.
Im certainly not gonna complain to the mods because lifes to short.
Judging from your rebuke i obviously hit a nerve.
Originally posted by leapofdreams
But you seem to complete close off any ability to have an open non biased approach. You are simply doing the same thing that full believers do. You are stating there is no way we are not being visited there are no other life forms and you are completely stern in your approach that there is nothing and never will be.
Your original post however leads to the idea that you believe that there is no other life at all in the universe.
Originally posted by leapofdreams
Armap i was asking the question. I had interpreted your original post in that way and was wondering if i had incorrectly interpreted your original post. But now that you have clarified that you are not discounting the probability of life. I have no other concerns. Just remember to be open for both possibilities.
What I would like to know is if there are more people like Gordon Cooper that can be considered "real" witnesses.
Originally posted by TrentReznor
now then, for the proof....There is none What so Ever, I could Give you all the Jucey details about it but For all you know I could Be Making the Whole thing up, so what is the point of that? first hand witnesses are Usless regardless if there Credible people.
The only Proof you will EVER GET is to see it for yourself wich is the ONLY way you will know for shure,
Its a very very small chance you will, I hope you do someday, and when that day arrives, it will be your day to embrace But nobody will ever truley Belive you.
Keep looking up my friend
The US government? And all the other countries? The sightings of UFOs are not an exclusive of the US.
Does that mean that all governments from all countries are hiding these evidences?