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The most Credible Quotes concerning UFOs. Astronauts, World Leaders, Scientists ...

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posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 06:55 PM
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Apollo 17: Eugene Cernan, Ronald Evans, and Harrison Schmidt; Landed in the Taurus-Littrow Valley; Dec 7 - 19, 1972.

Check out the following weird conversation that took place:


Mission Control:
Go ahead, Ron
Evans: O.K., Robert, I guess the big thing I want to report from the back side is that I took another look at the - the - cloverleaf in Aitken with the binocs. And that southern dome (garble) to the east.

Mission Control: We copy that, Ron. Is there any difference in the color of the dome and the Mare Aitken there?

Evans: Yes there is... That Condor, Condorsey, or Condorecet or whatever you want to call it there. Condorecet Hotel is the one that has got the diamond-shaped fill down in the uh - floor.

Mission Control: Robert. Understand. Condorcet Hotel.

Evans: Condor. Condorset. Alpha. They've either caught a landslide on it or it's got a - and it doesn't look like (garble) in the other side of the wall in the northwest side.

Mission Control: O.K., we copy that Northwest wall of Condorcet A.

Evans: The area is oval or elliptical in shape. Of course, the ellipse is toward the top.


Again we have another example of code being used to disguise what has been found. For example, "Condorset Hotel". Why the codes, if there are no secrets being discussed. Why not explain to the American people openly what is going on? After all, they have paid for the mission.


Interesting question. Why do astronauts talk in an obvious code, if there is nothing to hide from the general public?

Why use code? Simple enough question, one would think.




posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 08:11 PM
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Perhaps you will like these quotes .....


"In my mind, there is no question that they're out there. My Career is well established. My texts books are required reading in all the major capitals on planet earth. If you want to become a physist to learn about the unified feild therory-you read my books. Therefore, I'm in a position to say: Yes- Most likely they're out their, perhaps even visted, perhaps on our moon. - ABC News Quote --

-- Professor Michio Kaku Author of Theoretical Physics UNY



"I've been convinced for a long time that the flying saucers are real and interplanetary. Another words we are being watched by beings from outer space."

--Albert M. Chop, deputy public relations director, National Aeronautics and Space Administration,(NASA) and former United States Air Force spokesman for Project Blue Book.



"When the long awaited solution to the UFO problem comes, I believe that it will prove to be not merely the next small step in the march of science, but a mighty and totally unexpected quantum leap."

"We had a job to do, whether right or wrong, to keep the public from getting excited"

--Dr.J Allen Hynek, Director US Air Force´s project Blue Book as a scientific consultant, astronomer, investigator and analysis.



"Of course it is possible that UFO's really do contain aliens as many people believe, and the Government is hushing it up."

--Professor Stephen Hawking



"Given the millions of billions of Earth-like planets, life elsewhere in the Universe without a doubt, does exist. In the vastness of the Universe we are not alone."

--The Bible According to Albert Einstein



"It is my thesis that flying saucers are real and that they are space ships from another solar system.There is no doubt in my mind that these objects are interplanetary craft of some sort. I and my colleagues are confident that they do not originate in our solar system."

--Dr. Herman Oberth (The father of modern rockerty)



"I am completely convinced that UFOs have an out-of-world basis."

--Dr. Walther Riedel (Once chief designer and research director at the German rocket center in Peenemunde)



"The possibility of reduced-time interstellar travel either by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations at present or ourselves in the future, is not fundamentally constrained by physical principles."

-- Dr. Harold Puthoff (Director, Institute for advanced studies at Austin, Author of fundamentals of Quantum Electronics)



The least improbable explanation is that these things are artificial and controlled ... My opinion for some time has been that they have an extraterrestrial origin."

--Dr. Maurice Biot (leading aerodynamicists and mathematical physicist)



"The evidence is overwhelming that Planet Earth is being visited by intelligently controlled extraterrestrial spacecraft. In other words, SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. Most are not. It's clear from the Opinion Polls and my own experience, that indeed most people accept the notion that SOME UFOs are alien spacecraft. The greater the education, the MORE likely to accept this proposition"

-- Stanton Friedman Defense Contractor Nuclear Physicist



"Extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. The Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nuncios (embassies) in various countries, such as Mexico, Chile and Venezuela."

-- Monsignor Corrado Balducci As stated 5 different times on Italian TV** (Vatican theologian insider close to the Pope,Monsignor Balducci said that he is on a Vatican commission looking into extraterrestrial encounters, and how to cope with the emerging general realization of extraterrestrial contact.)



"We must insist upon full access to disks recovered. For instance, in the La case the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination."

--J Edgar Hoover



"I am convinced that these ojects do exist and that they are not manufactured by any nations on earth"

--Air Chief Marshal Lord Dowding (Commander-in-chief, Royal Air Force Fighter Command) (3) An outpouring of UFO reports which forces response in high places, particularly when unknowns virtually blitzed the U.S. capitol in Washington, D.C. An Air Force intelligence analysis also concluded that UFOs were interplanetary spaceships. (1952)



"The UFO phenomenon being reported is something real and not visionary or fictitious"

--General Nathan Twining Chairman, Joint chiefs of staff, 1955-1958



"With control of the universe at stake, a crash program is imperative.We produced the A-bomb, under the huge Manhattan Project, in an amazingly short time. The needs, the urgency today are even greater. The Air Force should end UFO secrecy, give the facts to scientists,the public, to Congress. Once the people realize the truth, they would back, even demand a crash program...for this is one race we dare not lose."

--Major Donald E Keyhoe USMC, Director NICAP 1953



"Unknown objects are operating under intelligent control... It is imperative that we learn where UFOs come from and what their purpose is. I can tell you, behind the scenes, high ranking military officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs"

--Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter (Former director of the Central Intelligence Agency)



"The possibility of reduced-time interstellar travel either by advanced extraterrestrial civilizations at present or ourselves in the future, is not fundamentally constrained by physical principles."

-- Dr. Harold Puthoff (Director, Institute for advanced studies at Austin, Author of fundamentals of Quantum Electronics)


An astonishing statement by Gen. Douglas MacArthur that,


"...the next war will be an interplanetary war. The nations of the earth must someday make a common front against attack by people from other planets. The politics of the future will be cosmic, or interplanetary"

-- General Douglas MacArthur, (1955)



Truman climbs on board: "I can assure you that flying saucers, given that they exist, are not constructed by any power on earth"

--President Harry S. Truman



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 08:16 PM
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Eso, while I find your effort admirable, if you're attempting to say that because these quoted persons are anymore reliable as witness' than the thousands I've personally interviewed through the years then maybe I should holler foul. Just because a person holds a special position is no guarantee of accuracy.
I submit that just cause these folk say it's so doesn't make it so. After all we're still just discussing hearsay evidence as opposed to physical.
I've interviewed cops and firemen and computer geeks. I've chatted with housewives and military personnel. Does it prove there are flaming chariots flying through the skies? Nope.
You can quote as many people as you like but in the end we're just left with opinion and speculation until the dam thing runs outta gas and crashes into the White House.
Afterall even 'they' need cheap fuel.



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 08:28 PM
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"The US Airforce assures me that UFO's pose no threat to National Security.."

--President John F Kennedy



"I feel that the Air Force has not been giving out all the available information on the Unidentified Flying Objects. You cannot disregard so many unimpeachable sources."

-- John W. McCormack, Speaker of the House of Representatives of the United States. January (1965)


Senator Barry Goldwater tries to gain access to a secret building at Wright-Patterson AFB rumored to house top UFO material, but is refused.


"I certainly believe in aliens in space, and that they are indeed visiting our planet. They may not look like us, but I have very strong feelings that they have advanced beyond our mental capabilities."

--Senator Barry Goldwater (1965)
(Retired Air Force Brigadier General and pilot with many decades of flying experience)


Future President Gerald Ford recommends an official committee investigation of the UFO phenomenon.


"I strongly recommend that there be a committee investigation of the UFO phenomena. I think we owe it to the people to establish credibility regarding UFOs and to produce the greatest possible enlightenment on this subject"

--President Gerald Ford (1966)



On the campaign trail, soon-to-be President Jimmy Carter promises that upon election, he would make public all the government's information on UFO sightings.
"I don't laugh at people any more when they say they've seen UFOs. I've seen one myself!"

--President Jimmy Carter (1976)



"I looked out the window and saw this white light.It was zigzagging around. I went up to the pilot and said,Have you ever seen anything like that? He was shocked and he said, "Nope." And I said to him: "Let's follow it!" We followed it for several minutes. It was a bright white light.We followed it to Bakersfield, and all of a sudden to our utter amazement it went straight up into the heavens. When I got off the plane I told Nancy all about it."

--President Ronald Reagen (Describing his 1974 UFO encounter to veteran newsman Norman C. Miller, then Washington bureau chief for the Wall Street Journal.)



"I think about how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And I ask you, does not this threat alread exsist?"

--President Ronald Reagen UN address



"The phenomenon of UFOs does exist, and it must be treated seriously."

--Mikhail Gorbachev



"I'm not at liberty to discuss the governments knowledge of extraterrestrial UFO's at this time. I am still personally being briefed on the subject!"

--President Richard M. Nixon


WHAT SAY YOU, NASA?


I believe, and I scientifically am certain, that there are endless other living forms out there, including intelligent sentient beings. I do know that there are entire universes of living forms out there.

--Dr.Story Musgrave NASA scientist-astronaut



"I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets which obviously are a little more technically advanced than we are here on Earth."

--Colonel L. Gordon Cooper (Mercury 9, Gemini-5 Astronaut)


ONE OF MY PERSONAL FAVORITES


"Mission control, We have a UFO pacing our position, request instructions!"

-- Astronaut Cady Coleman NASAtransmission shuttle mission STS-73



"I've been asked about UFO's and I've said publicly I thought they were somebody else, some other civilization."

--Commander Eugene Cernan, Commanded the Apollo 17 Mission. (LA TIMES, 1973)



"We have contact with alien cultures."

--Astronaut Dr. Brian O'leary



"In my official status, I cannot comment on ET contact. However, personally, I can assure you, we are not alone!"

--Charles J. Camarda (Ph.D.) NASA Astronaut



"UFO sightings are now so common, the military doesn't have time to worry about them - so they screen them out. The major defense systems have UFO filters built into them, and when a UFO appears, they simply ignore it."

--Lee Katchen (former atmospheric physicist with NASA)



We all know that UFOs are real. All we need to ask is where do they come from, and what do they want?"

--Apollo 14 Astronaut Capt. Edgar Mitchell



"All Apollo and Gemini flights were followed, both at a distance and sometimes also quite closely, by space vehicles of extraterrestrial origin - flying saucers, or UFOs, if you want to call them by that name. Every time it occurred, the astronauts informed Mission Control, who then ordered absolute silence."

--Maurice Chatelain, former chief of NASA Communications Systems.



"At no time, when the astronauts were in space were they alone: there was a constant surveillance by UFOs."

--NASA's Scott Carpenter


When asked if he believed that UFO's were real;"Yes as a matter of fact I do." He was also asked if he had ever seen a UFO and he said he had, on his Gemini mission. He went on to say that he tried to take a picture of it, but it did not come out.
--Brigadier Gen. James Mc Divitt command pilot of the Gemini space craft. (This interview can be seen on a video tape called Beyond Belief, from United Entertainment, Inc. 1986.)

On May 11, 1962 NASA pilot Joseph Walker said that one of his tasks was to detect UFOs during his X-15 flights. He had filmed five or six UFOs during his record breaking fifty-mile-high flight in April, 1962. It was the second time he had filmed UFOs in flight. To date none of those films has been released to the public for viewing. During a lecture at the Second National Conference on the Peaceful Uses of Space Research in Seattle, Washington, he stated:


"I don't feel like speculating about them. All I know is what appeared on the film which was developed after the flight."

-- NASA Pilot Joseph A. Walker



"The evidence points to the fact that Roswell was a real incident and that indeed an alien craft did crash, and that material was recovered from that site. We all know that UFOs are real.All we need to ask is where do they come from, and what do they want?"

--Capt. Edgar Mitchell Apollo 14 Astronaut



"I was testing a P-51 fighter in Minneapolis when I spotted this object. I was at about 10,000 feet on a nice, bright, sunny afternoon. I thought the object was a kite, then I realized that no kite is gonna fly that high." As I got closer it looked like a weather balloon, gray and about three feet in diameter. But as soon as I got behind the darn thing it didn't look like a balloon anymore. It looked like a saucer, a disk. About the same time, I realized that it was suddenly going away from me -- and there I was, running at about 300 miles per hour. I tracked it for a little way, and then all of a sudden the damn thing just took off. It pulled about a 45 degree climbing turn and accelerated and just flat disappeared."

--Mercury Astronaut Capt. Donald Slayton


If the next quote is one you can choose to disregard, you need help.


"Let there be no doubt. Alien technology harvested from the infamous saucer crash in Roswell, N.Mex., in July 1947 led directly to the development of the integrated circuit chip, laser and fiber optic technologies, Particle beams, Electromagnetic propulsion systems, Depleted uranium projectiles, Stealth capabilities, and many others! How do I know? I was in charge! (A matter of public record)I think the kids on this planet are wise to the truth, and I think we ought to give it to them. I think they deserve it.

--Colonel Philip Corso Army Intelligence officer, former head of the Foreign Technology at the U.S. Army's Research and Development department at the Pentagon. Four years director of intelligence on President Eisenhower's White House National Security Staff


Still a skeptic. Here is a quote for you....


Skeptic Quote -- "Radio has no future. Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible. X-rays will prove to be a hoax."

--William Thomson, Lord Kelvin English scientist, 1899.



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by longhaircowboy
Eso, while I find your effort admirable, if you're attempting to say that because these quoted persons are anymore reliable as witness' than the thousands I've personally interviewed through the years then maybe I should holler foul. Just because a person holds a special position is no guarantee of accuracy.


I agree. However, Skeptics will be more apt to disregard what Mary Sue who works at the Trucker's Diner in a town with a population of 450 has to say about her encounter.

But what is a skeptic when they disregard numerous world leaders, every president since 1950, astronauts, religious leaders, top NASA officials, top world scientists, and members of society who held positions that were exposed to extra-terrestrial technologies?

They are no longer a skeptic. They are conspiritors.

What empowers them to disregard numerous presidents?
What causes them to disregard members of our own species who have been to space?
What causes them to not believe people who have been to the moon?
What causes them to not believe leaders of other nations, or even the largest nation on Earth?



You can quote as many people as you like but in the end we're just left with opinion and speculation until the dam thing runs outta gas and crashes into the White House.


Speculation is not the problem. Their opinion is.

[edit on 10-8-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 09:41 PM
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An Interesting read, considering laws were already in place to prevent all Earthly contaminants from entering America. Why a re-duntancy to previous laws?


Executive Order 13112 (Concerning Invasive Species):

ceq.eh.doe.gov...



Executive Order 13112: Invasive Species

The purpose of this Executive Order, signed on February 3, 1999, is to prevent the introduction of invasive species and provide for their control, as well as to minimize the economic, ecological, and human health impacts that invasive species cause.

Under this Executive Order Federal agencies whose actions may affect the status of invasive species shall: (1) identify such actions, (2) use relevant programs and authorities to prevent, control, monitor, and research such species, and (3) not authorize, fund, or carry out actions that it believes are likely to cause or promote the introduction or spread of invasive species in the United States or elsewhere. Federal agencies shall pursue these duties in consultation with the Invasive Species Council, consistent with the Invasive Species Management Plan. This order also establishes an Invasive Species Council, which will provide national leadership regarding invasive species. The Council shall oversee the implementation of this order and see that the Federal agency activities concerning invasive species are coordinated, complementary, cost-efficient, effective, and rely on existing organizations already in place that address invasive species issues. Within 18 months after issuance of this order, the Council shall prepare and issue the first edition of a National Invasive Species Management Plan, which shall detail and recommend performance-oriented goals and objectives and specific measures of success for Federal agency efforts concerning invasive species.




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posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 10:04 PM
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Esoteric Teacher,

Not really sure what that has to do with UFOs or credible quotes. Invasive species are plants and animals that are typically not native to an ecosystem that have a tendency to harm ecosystems when introduced. For instance the Cane Toad in Australia is non-native and destructive to the Native ecosystems there and is considered an Invasive Species.



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by lost_shaman
Esoteric Teacher,

Not really sure what that has to do with UFOs or credible quotes. Invasive species are plants and animals that are typically not native to an ecosystem that have a tendency to harm ecosystems when introduced. For instance the Cane Toad in Australia is non-native and destructive to the Native ecosystems there and is considered an Invasive Species.


And it is apparent to you that the rhetoric used in the above executive order could only pertain to lifeforms indiginous to Earth?



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by Esoteric Teacher

And it is apparent to you that the rhetoric used in the above executive order could only pertain to lifeforms indiginous to Earth?


I don't know if it was written ONLY to pertain to lifeforms on Earth , but when talking about "Invasive species" it's understood that we are talking about lifeforms on Earth unless specifically stated otherwise. I think its at least stretching or misguided to think otherwise.


Edit: typo


[edit on 10-8-2006 by lost_shaman]



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by longhaircowboy
Eso, while I find your effort admirable, if you're attempting to say that because these quoted persons are anymore reliable as witness' than the thousands I've personally interviewed through the years then maybe I should holler foul.


Thanks for sharing their quotes.

And, if you feel correct in doing so, holler foul.

I would think that people who stand to loose far more through their actions of sharing information would be far more credible than those who stand to gain something from their sharing of information.

Most people won't look past thier own motivational factors for comparison in judging whether one is telling the truth or not.

So, it would logical people would believe a president of the united states, or an astronaut reporting their experiences from space, who have far more to lose, than someone who could be easily percieved as someone who may have alterior motives.

Do you think someone without even a GED, who has never left their own city or county is just as credible as someone with 12 years of college and hundreds of hours spent outside Earth's atmosphere?



posted on Aug, 10 2006 @ 11:54 PM
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Be not afraid

-- every otherworldly messenger in the old & new testaments.



posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 12:06 AM
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ET,

Again I'm confused. With all these really great quotes from intelligent people why is there a need or desire to post "Be not afraid" a phrase used in the Bible that seriously has nothing to do with UFOs.

I've seen a UFO. I agree there are tons of other intelligent people making statements about UFOs and the UFO phenomena. There is no need in introducing a common phrase from the Bible like "Be not afraid" that has nothing to do with UFOs.

If the point of the thread is to convince other more skeptical people that the subject has and is receiving serious attention and should not be considered "imaginary" and created and supported by the "Lunatic Fringe" then why introduce something vague and imaginary like saying "Be not afraid" in the Bible is a "credible quote concerning UFOs".

It's not.

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posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by lost_shaman
ET,

Again I'm confused. With all these really great quotes from intelligent people why is there a need or desire to post "Be not afraid" a phrase used in the Bible that seriously has nothing to do with UFOs.


Literal recounts thousands of years old, and kept for generations, in a book held in reverence by so many describing what was said from beings who were not of this world has (in your opinion) nothing to do with UFOs???



posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 12:30 AM
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Here is the crux of the issue...

If someone is part of the "Lunatic Fringe" I consider them to be a detriment to the field of Ufology.

If a person does not or can not distinguish between "Astronauts, World Leaders, Scientists ... " and "Angels in the Bible" I consider them part of the "Lunatic Fringe".

Simple as that. The "LF" = detriment to the credibility to the Field of Ufology.



posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 12:38 AM
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Well, perhaps that is where the problem lies.

In a universe that contains both observable and measurable phenomenon that directly causes the world's top minds to date the universe at a conservative 18,000,000,000 years old, you choose to have more faith in your opinion.

How old is your opinion?



Because it obviously can not fathom that life may have found us 17,999,995,000 years after the universe began.

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posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 12:53 AM
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Originally posted by lost_shaman

If a person does not or can not distinguish between "Astronauts, World Leaders, Scientists ... " and "Angels in the Bible" I consider them part of the "Lunatic Fringe".


This is one of the most ignorant statements i've ever seen.

So many effective ways to counter it .....

let me think hard.....

If a person does not or can not distinguish between .... World Leaders ... and "Angels in the Bible" I consider them part of the "Lunatic Fringe"

Well, this practitioner of the lunatic fringe would like to inform you that if the bible is not a world leader, it most certainly has more followers.

Look up the various meanings of the word leader



[edit on 11-8-2006 by Esoteric Teacher]



posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 01:05 AM
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I consider my point evidenced, if not proven.

"Angels" in the Bible are not World Leaders. They are not Scientists. And they are not Astronauts, unless you consider them E.T.'s from Space at which point I'd say you certainly represent the "Lunatic Fringe".

Again I'm asking why with all these great people with their great quotes do you need to introduce "Angels" and common phrases from the Bible to make your point about UFOs and "Astronauts, World Leaders, Scientists ..."



posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 01:27 AM
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The best thread of UFO proof I have ever read. Words are more powerful then pictures most definitely.



posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by R3KR
The best thread of UFO proof I have ever read. Words are more powerful then pictures most definitely.


Exactly.

So as soon as you introduce "Angels" or similar your creating an unnecessary and IMO non-existent association that will automatically be rejected by a certain portion of the population , and introducing that element for no logical reason.



posted on Aug, 11 2006 @ 05:26 AM
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i think what he's saying is that those angels in the bible have affected the thought processes of just as many people as George Bush or Hitler ever did.

leaders don't have to be people. they don't even have to exist. people will follow almost anything.




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