if this is true and Iran get these to hazbullah
i hope they take out as many IAF planes and helicopters as possible

a salute to Iran

Well the way it seems is that the coward Hezzbolah seems to like to hide among civilians. Thgis seems the they way it is with most of the conflicts in the middle east. Either the terror cowards run and hide or they hide behind woman and children. One point , if Lebonon had not allowed Hezzbbolah to stay there how many civilians would be dead now. If the civilians don't want to die then they should get away from hezzbollah.
I think the opposite of you bodrul, I hope Isreal takes out as many hezzbollah cowards as it can. I am not a big fan of Isreal but this terror crap has got to stop and the Isrealis are showing the guts to get it done.

Originally posted by steve99
I think the opposite of you bodrul, I hope Isreal takes out as many hezzbollah cowards as it can. I am not a big fan of Isreal but this terror crap has got to stop and the Isrealis are showing the guts to get it done.

i didnt expect most people here to agree with me
i laugh at the fact that people here mention hazbullah hiding behind cuvilians
last time i checked all the women kids and so on killed were killed by Israels reckless attitude in the middle east where all their actions requires them to flatten entire cities and infrontstructure killing 10-30 times more people then that of a palistian or hazbullah
making them worse then any terrorist in the middle east.

the israelis arent showing guts just that they dont care about non jewish life.
heck they make the nazis look like saints (atleast the world stood up to them)

bodrul... with all due respect, Israel has certainly not flattened entire cities. Not to lessen the extent of the damage or the loss of life but that characterization is simply not accurate. To be sure, they have the capability to 'flatten' entire cities (and I'm not speaking of anything other than conventional weapons). They have chosen not to. If Israel was waging the kind of war that all the ATS armchair generals are accusing it of there would be tens-of-thousands dead at this stage. I'm not suggesting that I agree or disagree with Israel's tactics or necessarily condone its actions but simply stating fact. And I fear that Iran's motives are anything but pure.

Originally posted by jtma508
bodrul... with all due respect, Israel has certainly not flattened entire cities. Not to lessen the extent of the damage or the loss of life but that characterization is simply not accurate. To be sure, they have the capability to 'flatten' entire cities (and I'm not speaking of anything other than conventional weapons). They have chosen not to. If Israel was waging the kind of war that all the ATS armchair generals are accusing it of there would be tens-of-thousands dead at this stage. I'm not suggesting that I agree or disagree with Israel's tactics or necessarily condone its actions but simply stating fact. And I fear that Iran's motives are anything but pure.

your right

destroying bridges
no way for aid to get in or cuvilians to get out of harms way
destroying infrontstructure
destroying powerplants, factories ,boats and so forth causing billions dollors worth of damage which will take years to rebuild.
flawed intel
if you read the other topic about IAF piolets dilibratly missing targets because of flawed intell, killing countless cuvilians.

please dont call me a armchair genearl as unlike the true arm chair generals i dont preach a country to wiped out of to start war.
and there is a big diffrence between saying someone has the right to deffend them selves from others (hence my support for lebonen and hazbullah)

also if this isnt a full scale attack
look at the picture of the cities and how many building are rubble

what ever Irans motives atleast they are supporting lebonen by giving hazbullah something that can be used to deffend its self from israeli jets and helicopters.

Some questions and observations.

Amnesty International has condemned Israeli soldiers repeatedly for using civilians as shields. Why can they do it and Hisbollah can't? Are the Israeli special in any way that gives them some sort of right to do the unspeakable and get away with it?

Then, when a terrorist is hidding among civilians or has taken civilians hostage in a building or vehicule, what do you do?

A: Send in special ops teams to take out the terrorists to verify, identify and take out the terrorist, at all costs limiting civilian casualties?
B: Bomb the building, car, truck or just the entire area this terrorist is in?

I know that in certain cases of plane hijacking, when the plane is in the air and it is made clear that the plane will be used as a flying bomb and that there is no way to force it down peacefully, its permitted to blow it out of the sky. But only when the US President authorizes it.
But thats the only situation that ever warents this kind of action. The action when taken will still result in serious critisism from the public.

Last, some of these worst bombings with massive civilian casualties failed to produce any dead Hesbollah.
So Israel is either working on bad intel or bombing area's that are even remotely suspected of having Hesbollah in them, not caring if its correct or not.

Both which are no excuse for killing civilians asif their lives are worhtless.

One of the reasons to use Special Ops teams in these situations is to be able to verify and identify the target(s), which is imposible to do at 30000 feet pushing a button, releasing a bomb that will take out a city block.

But hey, like I said a million times, the Israeli goverment and IDF don't give a damn thing about Lebanees, Palestinian or any other lives other then their own.

They are hardcore racists that steal land, massmurder a people spread over such a long time it doesn't seem such a big deal, have agressivly invade and occupied all their surrounding country's trying to anex land, driving the indiginous people out of their homes and making their lives miserable and last but not least, have done so without halt during their entire time of existance.

No wonder more and more Jewish people distance themselves from everything the Israeli goverment and Israel itself stand for.

Originally posted by thematrix
No wonder more and more Jewish people distance themselves from everything the Israeli goverment and Israel itself stand for.

Indeed. Fortunately, not all Jews have been brainwashed by Pro Zionist propaganda.
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