Buddhism, FreeMasonry and Gnosis

True indeed, in regard to acheiving Liberation during the death process that is.


But don't forget the importance of working with the Divine Mother Kundalini during our physical life-span, working on the death of the egos during the span of our physical life, and sacrificing for this suffering humanity during our physical life(and all from moment to moment).





Some related info:









I definitely recommend the first six search-results of the following amazon.com link:


The Six Yogas of Naropa



And also, the following are recommended in relation to Bardo and Dream Yoga Practice:


THE TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD: translated by Gyurme Dorje, edited by Graham Coleman and Thupten Jinpa with commentary by His Holiness the Dalai Lama

Awakening of the Consciousness in the Astral Plane or World of Dreams

Anything by TENZIN WANGYAL RINPOCHE

HEART DROPS OF DHARMAKAYA: Dzogchen Practice of the Bon Tradition

JOURNEY OF THE MIND: Putting the Teachings on the Bardo into Effective Practice: by Khenchen Thrangu Rinpoche

THE DALAI LAMAS ON TANTRA: trans. & intro. by Glenn H. Mullin

NATURAL LIBERATION: Padmasambhava's Teachings on the Six Bardos






In regard to the Holy Grail, King Arthur, the Ashlar/Stone/Peter-Cephas/Foundation:







The Stone and King Arthur:










Wagner an Adept:






Dante Alighieri on the Lance and Holy Grail:









Regards





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masonry and KT have been in my family for centuries and the reasoning behind this discussion is to find that which applies to all. if you lexigram the word life(in english only) it expands to "LIVING INTERNAL FORCE ENERGY" thus the soul/Without this catalyst for life it ceases to exist.
Those seeking thru shamanic means (drugs) know from contact with other consciousnesses that the plain we live on exists only in our reality.
The best we can hope for is a long and happy life andto be able to write our own book of experiences.All of the grail stories for instance are in their own reality true but my teaching by some very high brethren is that the jesus story and the cup story were manufactured by some people living in a very strange reality.
All faiths and I do not mean the word religeon pertain to some supranatural entity which cannot be proved on this plane of existence,all we have is lots of words.

The tibetans know that there are seven different north pole sites on this planet and the period of approximately 26,512 years is broken into 4 periods representing the seasons, the trouble is that man has destroyed the keys and people are desparetly searching for day zero whether it be anno luci or 26/6/1876.we need to work together to break these codecs.buddhism, masonry,golden dawn etc are all expecting a second coming, but of what.?

The Second Coming of Christ is something completely internal, and only comes with the Three Factors I mentioned at the top of this page.

Not something that we'll see coming out of the terrestrial sky, as many watered down Christian sects believe.














Nor is the Science as easy "as drinking a glass of water" like the common "New Age" schools would like to believe.



It is said that the Tibetans know the Science of the Christic Heart Doctrine, and that some high level Theosophists and early Golden Dawn members knew it.

Every authentic Religion has held the Keys at some point.

But obviously, only the Avatar of Aquarius(hint: it's not Sai Baba or Benjamin Creme's "Maitreya") is now teaching this Great Arcanum openly.

(Although the Six Yogas of Naropa by Lama Yeshe and a few other books by Tibetan Adepts give it as well, but not quite as blatantly).


Some hints from H.H. The Dalai Lama




I'd like to address some other points as well, avatari777.....





Regards

It is widely known among a few that the CHRIST went to tibet as part of his time in the "wilderness" this has been ignored for centuries by those who would seek to teach MAN how to control his exoteric urges, hence the damning of astrologers and the like within some versions of the bible and other books.It is said that the knowing is the verge of madness for those seeking GNOSTICS hence them being declared heretics.The use of cannabis opens the crown chakra which is why the system is deserate to stem its use, as with other esoteric catalysts.The name of the Christ has been misused as a symbol of blame for centuries when he was martyred.There is an interesting scene in the film pale rider where the property developers meet and say "God help us if someone comes along and gives them faith."When all of the miners were being persecuted and murdered for their land, THE SAME HAPPENS NOW ONLY THEY CALL IT LIBERATION.

Yeah, I'd say the Bible originally referred to Witchcraft and Goetia as being sinful, and not to authentic Magic.






Hmmm...












[edit on 12-11-2006 by Tamahu]

History is always rewritten by the victors and the catholic church and others are no different.I was brought up by my paternal grandfather who was initiated as Chaplain of the KOM on the 11/11/1911 in MALTA and the history that was told to me as a youngster set me questioning all of my life.He incidentally was a reformist in the christian church and a vicar until 1959. He died on the same day as JFK of a gunshot to the head.When I asked him about whether he believed in the present attitude towareds god, his answer was always the same.I believe in GOD when my congregation come to church and pay their dues.

Thanks, Tamahu, for your goodness in giving so much of your knowledge and information on Buddhism.

I am just simply lost about varieties and diversities and contrarieties of religions, including the opposing schools of Buddhism. How does one ever get to know with certainty whether and where we will get to when we each with absolute ineluctability depart from this life.

Let's imagine this situation:

Pachomius is lost in the forest and it is getting dark; when darkness finally sets in he will be killed and eaten by fierce beasts prowling in the dark for prey like Pachomius, or any other living things they can overcome, kill, and eat, or eat while still not dead.

Now he gets messages with his cellphone from all kinds of enlightened persons telling him how to get back to civilization, all conflicting and mutually canceling among themselves, meaning you can't follow one enlightened being or one message without having to disregard the others -- and darkness is setting in fast.

Tell me about what you personally are certain of in regard to the end destiny of man and life post this side of the grave.

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[indent]Anyway, to truly know what authentic Buddhism is, we must practice it through Meditation, and by staying in Chastity, and by studying with complete sincerity. [/indent]

That thing about chastity, staying in chastity, that has become moot and academic in modern Western society. What I have found out is that even Western Buddhists the majority can be meditating about desire being cause of suffering, no-self, emptiness, right conduct, and even claim and are acclaimed to have come to Nirvana, but all the time not chaste, including and most interestingly the masters in charge of sanghas where they have women -- and men, being trained to be what? spiritual. Being spiritual is no off limits to libido... that's obvious even in Buddhists, of the contemporary West.

If witnesses' accounts are dependable, Western Buddhists observing chastity, even just the abstinence from sex outside one's marital partner, they make up the exiguous minority if ever they do exist in real life, beyond literature or journalism.


Pachomius

Really, as has been shown in this thread and many others; there is only One True Religion that manifests as apparently different forms.

The Yogas and Meditation practices of Origen and the Christian Desert Fathers, can get one to the same 'place' as the various vehicles of Buddhism.

For example, it is shown by the Dalai Lama and other Masters and Adepts of Buddhism; that the Prasangika-Madhyamaka Philosophy of Buddhism is 'superior', to say, the Sauntrantika Philosophy of Buddhism.

But this certainly doesn't mean that the Sautrantika is false.

A devotee of the Sautrantika might get exactly what she or he needs out of it for his or her developement.

Chances are, that once the practitioner reaches the limits of Sautrantika, that they will need a 'higher' Madhyamaka Philosophy in order to advance.

But this is not necessarily so.

The individual could possibly transcend all schools of Philosophy, via any authentic Religion, by tapping into their own inherent Divine Nature which is beyond all dogmas, gods, philosophies, etc.







Well, we're all going to die(unless of course we've obtained the Elixir of Long Life ); as all things are impermanent.

Buddhism has also shown that all things are interdependent, proving that all things are empty of self-existence(which doesn't mean that they don't exist; it just means that no-thing exists independent of everything else).

All causes have their effects, and all effects their causes; meaning that we reap what we sow(as said in the Christian Gospels).

So when death comes, we carry the karmic traces of our past actions that have not yet been fulfilled.

And the Law must be fulfilled.

So we must return(not to be confused with Reincarnate) to the Wheel of Samsara(that is if we have not achieved Liberation in the Bardo or in-between astral-states of existence) as to finish reaping what we've sown.

Unfortunately, we keep creating more karma, instead of balancing the Scales which are seen in the Bardo Thodol and Pert Em Heru Judgement Scenes.

All Authentic Religions teach all this in a more or less veiled form.

So we can see that there are facts, which have nothing to do with dogmatic beliefs and fanaticisms(see the books mentioned in the thread, or the links in my signature).






That is because the intellectual profaners of the Temple have taken over.






Nowhere is it written that one can't awaken without chastity.





Which means that those who are not in Scientific Chastity are of two types:

Those who waste their time and remain asleep.

And those who awaken, but negatively and in evil(like Buddha Shakyamuni's evil cousin Devadatta).







What many people don't understand, is that Sex is not an unclean act.


It is the orgasm, as one Gnostic instructor put it, is that which:





Actually, sex between husband and wife is more conducive to Chastity, than is celibacy(this has also been explained many times in my various posts).

The Tantric or Alchemical practice of properly channelling the sexual energies(the cause of all life) is called in the East: Karma-Mudra.

Chastity is the proper channelling of energies.

While celibacy and suppression lead to internal damage.

However, not everyone's karma permits them a spouse; so the practice of Pranayama is given to celibate bachelors in order to prepare them for the Hermetic Marriage.


Either way, when we fornicate, we expel the Libido or Inner-Fire that is necessary in order to Create the "Soul"(Buddhism doesn't recognize a "Soul" in the exoteric Western sense)

But whether we call it the "Soul", or the Kayas of Buddhism, the gist of the teaching is:







The reason that this Knowledge(of the Tree of Life of Good and Evil) has been veiled for so long is this:






We can see how this happened, when we look at all the books on "Sex Magick", and "Tantra" so popular now-a-days written by Westerners, and charlatan "Gurus" like Osho for example.



However, these are the last days.


So:











Regards




[edit on 9-1-2007 by Tamahu]

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[edit on 9-1-2007 by Tamahu]

Thank you, Tamahu, for your generosity in sharing your information on esoteric and exoteric matters. Forgive me, but can you be patient to tell me in few words what are the meanings of esoterism and exoterism?

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There is in fact plenty of sex going on inside religions of all kinds, even though the common thought is that religion adopts a strict no no attitude to sex.

The more inquisitive question is not that sex is even resorted to as a spiritual practice and exalted to such heights as mediums of what? enlightenment, ecstasy of the spiritual kind, not engorgement of genitals and their collapse, but also included, of course.

The more inquisitive question is what happens to all the pregnancies and venereal diseases that are sure to occur among the women in this sex 'magick' devotions and rituals or what have you.

Do you have access to government health records and police blotters of such data on how wide unwanted pregnancies and abetted abortions in women, and incidence of venereal diseases including HIV in both men and women in religion, are saturating the esoteric and exoteric landscapes? -- All I have is the idea that esoterism and exoterism have to do with religion, specially Buddhism of the Tantric school(?).

In regard to pregnancies and abetted abortions in women, I will not mention here instances of complaints in police precincts of rapes, sacred white slavery, and all the kindred sorts of reports.


Pachomius

Pachomius


Some of these are certainly valid questions.

And I'll try to address them soon.

For right now however, my time on the library's computer is running out.....





Regards

Tamahu, you certainly do go to a lot of trouble posting those links, which I appreciate* Not to offend anyone, for I am your average fool who is not knowledgable of many topics, but it seems that all the myths and magic that were built around sex were built simply because it was,(still is) the most pleasurable thing man could do with himself at that time, and sometimes it made babies* So people being narcissists, (which is not a bad thing) and certainly hedonic, built all these complicated mythos around procreation because it was so great, and the priest made it divine so they could be assured of getting laid 24/7* Simple biology*

Gnosis to me should come first and foremost to the poor fool, he who has happily spent his life dancing over Daath and not even knowing it, to be delighted and surprised when he is drinking wine and honey in the Garden of the Gods, or Agartha, or wherever* Srudents can overintellectualize a thing and it loses its passion*

This thread reminds me of a story in the Upinashads, I long since lost my copy and cant remember exactly how it goes, but a fool is dancing along the road and up walks Krishna, "Lord where goeth you?" the fool asked, "To heaven", Krishna replied, "Oh when you get there can you find out how many lifetimes I have left?" the fool asked and Krishna agreed*

Along the same road Krishna encounters a samadhi who has sat meditating in the same spot so long that ants have built beds around him and are eating his flesh* The samadhi makes of Krishna the same request, and he agrees to comply*

Krishna returns and first sees the samadhi, who ask him if He knows how many lifetimes the samadhi must endure, and Krishna points to a tree and says, "as many leaves are on that tree those are your lives left on Earth" then the samadhi becomes very sad that he has tortured his body thus*

Krishna then sees the dancing fool, and the fool ask him the same question, Krishna points to the tree and replies "as many leaves are on that tree those are your lives left on Earth"

Then the fool laughs in amazement and says "Thats all?", then a Great Voice speaks to him and says, "You shall have it now" and the fool becomes liberated*

The power of positive thinking I guess

Pachomius



Sorry for forgetting about your post again.


I'm not losing site of your posts on purpose, I promise.



The following FAQ is very helpful in regard to your questions:


Alchemy and Tantra



I'll be happy to try to answer any other questions you have, or to answer ones you've already asked that the FAQ did not answer.






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Greetings Spores From Space



That Sex is simply a biological matter, and that the first humanoids were apes or savages; is absurd, when we consider that Man is the Microcosm of the Macrocosm.

Adam Kadmon, the Arm Leg Leg Arm Head, etc.


Really, if Sex creates Man, then Sex also created the Universe.


It is through the Grace of Christ, that we have the oppertunity to pay our karma Consciously, and that we did not have to automatically go straight to the Second Death, the first time we misused the Sexual Forces of Eden.




But yes, Krishna is certainly a Gnostic Prophet.





The following is of interest for this thread as well:

More teachings that are very relevant to this discussion:

Here's a great list of resources about Bonpo and Tibetan Buddhism:


Tibetan Traditions

Can anybody here talk about the rumoured links between Turkish-Ottoman Freemasonry and supposedly occult practices in Buddhism?

That's a new one on me. Some Buddhists engage in occult/esoteric practices, especially among Tantric lines. But I've never heard anyone try to correlate it to Freemasonry.

I would strongly dispute that Wagner was anything approaching the status of Adept in what Samael (the "Blind God"?) calls Gnosis: Theodor Reuss