What happened to the Gold vault in the WTC

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posted on Aug, 4 2006 @ 04:37 PM
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I understand that there was billions of dollars in gold in the WTC basement vaults yet have not heard anything about that except there was a news article that stated during cleanup in the smashed tunnel running from the wtc to the river exit I believe a truck was found smashed and filled with gold. Not sure if this is just a rumor but its no rumor that there was a lot of gold in the building at the time of the
fall of the towers. Could the explosions have been the vault themselfs befoe the plans hit and the means to cover the robbery of the gold from the buldings




posted on Aug, 4 2006 @ 05:05 PM
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that is a very good point iv never heard anything about this topic so i would be just as interested to find out the outcome

nice thinking.



posted on Aug, 4 2006 @ 10:54 PM
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This site tells a little storyf about the gold and how much was there and some of who owns the gold.

www.cnsnews.com...\\Business\\archive\\200109\\BUS20010912b.html

This site tells about An article in The Sierra Times suggests that gold was recovered from two trucks in a tunnel under 5 World Trade Center, giving rise to suspicions that the trucks were being used to remove the gold from the vaults before the South Tower fell. 4 However, this report may have been based on an erroneous reading of other reports that describe the removal of crushed vehicles from a tunnel under 5 WTC in order to gain access to the vaults under 4 WTC to remove their contents.
911research.wtc7.net...
Why is there this huge discrepancy between the value of gold and silver reported recovered, and the value reported to have been stored in the vaults? There are a number of possible explanations, from outright theft using the attack as cover, to insurance fraud. Until there is a genuine investigation that probes all the relevant facts and circumstances surrounding the attack, we can only speculate.



posted on Aug, 4 2006 @ 11:18 PM
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Yeah, I heard this too. Supposedly someone caught a hint of what was going to happen that morning and quickly ordered the removal of many truckloads of gold bullion. They managed to get all the gold laden trucks out but one or two which were crushed when the towers fell.

The question here is, who ordered the removal of the gold, for by chasing them up could expose fore-knowledge of a planned terrorist event; where did all the gold go? Where did the gold in the clean up go? Why havn't any of the truck drivers come forward with their accounts?



posted on Aug, 4 2006 @ 11:42 PM
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inhome.rediff.com...
On top of that, it is believed that other treasures were kept in the vaults, including additional precious metals, jewels and securities. But there has been no information on whether these valuables were there or recovered.

I think this is a good story that is not being told about was the towers brought down
to hide the biggest robbery in the worlds history, who knows the real answer may still be down there someplace but up here there is only silence!

www.blythe.org...



posted on Aug, 5 2006 @ 10:08 AM
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To bad none of us was around when that happened, we could have made off with millions. That is an important lesson, when an important event like this is happening, and everyone is running around in fear and confusion, keep a level head and charge straight to the heart of the matter, the sooner the better because right in the wake of events there is a period of chaos in which no one is in charge, and see what you can find. All of the governments secrets lay on the streets as well as millions in gold or whatever your heart desired, you could have even tried rescuing people, all free for the taking. As well all sorts of information about what really happened would have available but no one knew then of the controversy which would blow up. But after a couple of hours the whole area was sealed off, millions of people had that chance, only a few were on top of it enough to take advantage. So remember the next time something like this happens be prepared and strike!



posted on Aug, 5 2006 @ 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by Melbourne_Militia
Yeah, I heard this too. Supposedly someone caught a hint of what was going to happen that morning and quickly ordered the removal of many truckloads of gold bullion. They managed to get all the gold laden trucks out but one or two which were crushed when the towers fell.

The question here is, who ordered the removal of the gold, for by chasing them up could expose fore-knowledge of a planned terrorist event; where did all the gold go? Where did the gold in the clean up go? Why havn't any of the truck drivers come forward with their accounts?


Wouldn't something like that require the authorization of many entities?



posted on Aug, 5 2006 @ 11:10 AM
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Actually, the gold was recovered from the vaults that they kept it in.

Not trucks. No one was moving the gold.




www.rediff.com...


The $230 million in precious metals has been moved from the basement vaults of ScotiaMocatta Depository at 4 WTC, where it was stored on behalf of the New York Mercantile Exchange when the September 11 attacks brought down the twin towers. All warehouse staff got out safely.




posted on Aug, 5 2006 @ 11:46 PM
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The gold was always in the vaults. They had to move the two empty trucks out of the delivery dock before they could get down into the vault area. Somehow this fact was twisted by a CTer into the gold being in the trucks.



posted on Aug, 6 2006 @ 12:19 PM
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Does the failure to remove these gold stocks indicate, at least, that the people that could've moved it didn't have foreknowledge?



posted on Aug, 6 2006 @ 03:01 PM
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911research.wtc7.net...


An article in the TimesOnline gives the following rundown of precious metals that were being stored in the WTC vault belonging to Comex. 3

Comex metals trading - 3,800 gold bars weighing 12 tonnes and worth more than $100 million
Comex clients - 800,000 ounces of gold with a value of about $220 million
Comex clients - 102 million ounces of silver, worth $430 million
Bank of Nova Scotia - $200 million of gold
The TimesOnline article is not clear as to whether the $200 million in gold reported by the Bank of Nova Scotia was part of the $220 million in gold held by Comex for clients. If so, the total is $750 million; otherwise $950 million. Why is there this huge discrepancy between the value of gold and silver reported recovered, and the value reported to have been stored in the vaults? Rumor has it that over $160 billion dollars in gold was stored in the World Trade Center.6 So where
did all the gold go?www.911myths.com...='WORLD%20TRADE%20CENTER%20GOLD%20VAULTS'
911review.com...
Evidence Destruction
The operation to remove the remains of the World Trade Center moved at a rapid clip. After $200 million in gold was recovered from vaults under the WTC in late October (which was apparently only a fraction of the gold in the vaults before the attack), Mayor Giuliani curtailed access of FDNY workers to Ground Zero, and ramped up the pace of the operation. By the time that the only government study on the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings was published in May of 2002, the site had been scrubbed. The report, the World Trade Center Building Performance Study called for further "research, investigation, and analysis", but with the structural steel having been recycled through blast furnaces in India and China, any such future studies would not have the benefit of the primary evidence

So matter what one can think just why were there reported explosions in the basement and what happened to the rest of the gold?



posted on Aug, 6 2006 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by LeftBehind
Actually, the gold was recovered from the vaults that they kept it in.

Not trucks. No one was moving the gold.




www.rediff.com...


The $230 million in precious metals has been moved from the basement vaults of ScotiaMocatta Depository at 4 WTC, where it was stored on behalf of the New York Mercantile Exchange when the September 11 attacks brought down the twin towers. All warehouse staff got out safely.



that article could be good but who wrote it as a author? Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon.
So can this story be considered reliable in fact. For instance there was heavy trading on the airline futures yet no one has been able to findout what happened there and as with the story of the gold just what has been the truth from so called reliable papers and authors. Americans that have writtened about the event have been called liars about their content yet its the americans right to question their government or do we not get to question our government that is the question!



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[edit on 8/7/2006 by 12m8keall2c]


CX

posted on Aug, 6 2006 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by Looter
To bad none of us was around when that happened, we could have made off with millions. That is an important lesson, when an important event like this is happening, and everyone is running around in fear and confusion, keep a level head and charge straight to the heart of the matter, the sooner the better because right in the wake of events there is a period of chaos in which no one is in charge, and see what you can find.


I'm suprised nobody has picked up on how insensitive and stupid this comment is.
Firstly, most people with any morals would'nt loot unless thier lives depended upon it. No-one needed to loot that day, it was'nt like Katrina.

Secondly, what an insensitive thing to say when we all know how many people died and were injured that day. Had you have been there that day, is all you would have thought about is how much money you could have taken? Only a disgusting common thief with no morals would thinking about looting the WTC whilst people were dying all around that day.

Lastly, have you ever tried running off with millions in gold? I very much doubt it. You saw the state of the place that day, you would'nt have even been able to get near it with a truck to take away your thieved haul let alone go home a millionaire!

Luckily, looters were very much the minority that day.

CX.



posted on Aug, 7 2006 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by mondegreen Rumor has it that over $160 billion dollars in gold was stored in the World Trade Center.6 So where
did all the gold go?



Rumor has it?

Do you have a source other than rumor or loose change, that actually confirms this number? That's a little over half of the world's gold supply in 2001.



posted on Aug, 8 2006 @ 12:22 AM
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A 160 billion would only be about 10% of the supply at 2001 pre 911 estimates, however you can check yourself if you feel that I am wrong.



posted on Aug, 8 2006 @ 12:40 AM
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Originally posted by mondegreen

Originally posted by LeftBehind
Actually, the gold was recovered from the vaults that they kept it in.
Not trucks. No one was moving the gold.


www.rediff.com...
The $230 million in precious metals has been moved from the basement vaults of ScotiaMocatta Depository at 4 WTC, where it was stored on behalf of the New York Mercantile Exchange when the September 11 attacks brought down the twin towers. All warehouse staff got out safely.


that article could be good but who wrote it as a author? Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon.
So can this story be considered reliable in fact.

OK, you don't like one of the most respected WIRE services on the planet.
try this on for size....


Nova Scotia Bank Vault
RICH GARLOCK: Some currency vaults owned by Citbank and Chase were badly damaged or burned in the fires that raged for 20 hours after the attack. The Nova Scotia bank vault, however, built inside the old Hudson-Manhattan terminal under WTC 4, was perfectly intact, albeit wet. FEMA's Miami Task Force marked the vault as searched on the 13th of September. We didn't go in to retrieve the metals until late October when we were able to clear a truck ramp with access to the area below WTC 7.


Nice PBS page. Great pictures of the Gold all safe in its couple O' storied vault.
Some other useful info to debubk with.

www.pbs.org...

[edit on 8-8-2006 by Duhh]



posted on Aug, 8 2006 @ 01:44 AM
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Not sure who your debunking but getting away from the article was not the intention. Is timeonline not worthly of itself. If ny stated and reuthers stated that
220 million in gold was recovered then maybe comex is trying to lie about what it had in its vaults, my post was about the comex vault your talking about a whole different set of holdings that or what. what happened to the silver and if bank of nova scotia recovered all its gold then comex must have been taken for a ride like before the towers fell. PBS is a good so called news air program but I normally see stories about the area 51 or where did man come from in its programs. Comex metal trading is a business not a bank. So lets see there is 730 million dollars in precious metals not accounted for is that the right amount or do we need to go higher.



article in the TimesOnline gives the following rundown of precious metals that were being stored in the WTC vault belonging to Comex. 3

Comex metals trading - 3,800 gold bars weighing 12 tonnes and worth more than $100 million
Comex clients - 800,000 ounces of gold with a value of about $220 million
Comex clients - 102 million ounces of silver, worth $430 million
Bank of Nova Scotia - $200 million of gold
The TimesOnline article is not clear as to whether the $200 million in gold reported by the Bank of Nova Scotia was part of the $220 million in gold held by Comex for clients. If so, the total is $750 million; otherwise $950 million. Why is there this huge discrepancy between the value of gold and silver reported recovered, and the value reported to have been stored in the vaults? Rumor has it that over $160 billion dollars in gold was stored in the World Trade Center.6 So where
did all the gold go?



posted on Aug, 8 2006 @ 09:10 AM
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Rumor has it that over $160 billion dollars in gold was stored in the World Trade Center.6 So where
did all the gold go?


Rumor has it this is a stupid issue.

The values of the gold and silver stored in the vaults has been published. You have listed them yourself. Why do you think that these numbers are wrong? Why are you listening to an internet rumor?

Think of it this way, that is a heck of a lot of money. If that value in gold were to suddenly disappear from the world markets and then suddenly reappear somewhere else, don’t you think someone would notice?

This is not an Ian Fleming novel.



posted on Aug, 8 2006 @ 09:10 AM
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Do you have a link to this TimesOnline article? The link on 911research is a dead end.

Does anyone other than rumor say that there was 160 billion in there?

If some was missing, why did no one but 911 conpiracy theorists notice? I am assuming that this much gold would be insured. Why did they never claim the insurance on this so-called missing gold.

The people who own the gold don't think any is missing. Nor do the investors and other companies who would certainly complain or say something about 500-700 million just disapearing.


www.rediff.com...

"All of the silver, gold, platinum, and palladium stored in its vaults at 4 World Trade Center have been successfully relocated by an Exchange-approved carrier to a newly Exchange-licensed Brink's Inc depository in Brooklyn," they said.



The people who own the gold say that all of it was recovered. Why do you dispute this?


Where is your source on the 160 billion?

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posted on Aug, 9 2006 @ 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by LeftBehind
Do you have a link to this TimesOnline article? The link on 911research is a dead end.

Does anyone other than rumor say that there was 160 billion in there?

If some was missing, why did no one but 911 conpiracy theorists notice? I am assuming that this much gold would be insured. Why did they never claim the insurance on this so-called missing gold.

The people who own the gold don't think any is missing. Nor do the investors and other companies who would certainly complain or say something about 500-700 million just disapearing.


www.rediff.com...

Your right when clicked it gives a 404 reading, however it is cached just to the right of the link as it says cached.
The vaults higher up the towers became burial chambers on September 11 as some workers tried in vain to protect themselves from the fire and smoke by taking refuge inside them.

The gold, which was discovered on Tuesday, was being transported through the basement of the building on the morning of September 11. Recovery workers reached a service tunnel and discovered a ten-wheel lorry and a number of cars which had been crushed by falling steel.
Now the UK timeonline article might be wrong but it does say the gold was being transported through the basement and there are other articles stating that two trucks in the tunnel filled with gold was crushed.
911research.wtc7.net... this might help since it is a cached article, who knows maybe times removed the article due to bandwidth overrun. Like your self the notion of a 160 billion is a lot of maoney and finding proof may just dbe a rumor in itself, but I will keep looking, But so far there still is several hundred million dollars of precious metal missing. 230 million was recovered but the comex held much more than that maybe the metal valts were transported to china or india for melt down who knows what really happened on 911?

"All of the silver, gold, platinum, and palladium stored in its vaults at 4 World Trade Center have been successfully relocated by an Exchange-approved carrier to a newly Exchange-licensed Brink's Inc depository in Brooklyn," they said.



I have not disputed anything about the gold but what these articles suggest was there more gold in the vaults and the timesonline states that there was vaults very high up in the building, what about them since there is very little about them. This still needs to be answered and probably not by just myself. 950 million verses 230 recovered means some loose change out there.





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