Originally posted by infinite
Originally posted by stumason
Admittedly, I don't think Israel should exist and I have made clear my reasons for this, but I have nothing against Jews.
reason being that the creation of Israel went directly against the oaths made to God?
the fact it was built via terrorism?
Neither. The first reason you gave is irrellevant (not meaning to be offencisve), as to accept that would be accept the existance of a God and/or the
preference of one religion over another.
The second is a good point, but not the one I am alluring too.
The basic premise behind the creation of Israel is that the Jews of old (the Hebrews) were forced out 2 millenia ago, not for the first time either.
Nowadays, 75% of the worlds Jews are converts from the 6th-10th century Eastern European Steppes, so have no ethnic claim to the land.
Even if they did, they lost the land in war 2000 years ago, so by their own reasons that they use to keep hold of the occupied territories, they lost
it, so the others can keep it. After all,I've heard from Nygdan that possession is 9/10ths the law, right?
Then some Western power (GB) comes in after WW1, rules from 30 years, then gives it a bunch of people who have never set foot there.
All this time, the UK operated under mandates given to them by the League of Nations during a time when Imperialism and colonisation were still
But, back to the ethnicity point. Imagine if I decided one day to call my self Sitting Bear. I spoke Navajo everywhere I went and worshipped
animalistic deities. I wore the clothes of Native Americans and behaved like one in every way.
Would that make me a Native American? Would that give me the right to evict current US citizens from ancestral lands to claim as my own? I doubt it
It is the same with modern Jews. 75% are NOT semitic in the true sense of the word. In fact, modern day Palestinians and others who live in the region
are semitic peoples, rather than the pretenders from eastern Europe. They, in my eyes, have a much better claim than anyone.
If someone can give me a cast Iron reason why Israel was created, apart from some hokey religous reason, then I'm all ears. But the way I see it is
that we gave in to the Zionist terrorism and also suffered from a collective "guilt" after WW2, which is no reason to displace millions of people to
favour a religious group
, which is what they are.
That is what were dealing with here, religious favouritism, powerful Jewish lobby in the most powerful nations on earth and a collective guilt over
the Holocaust. There is no logical reason why Israel should have been created.